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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: honk] * 1
    #27954166 - 09/17/22 08:08 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Pretty sure the myc is active so it would work but not sure what concentration you would need to get a noticeable buzz.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SwabMarley] * 5
    #27954176 - 09/17/22 08:21 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

nat puffs cereal.  I’ll brb… gonna go prespend my millions..


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: fahtster] * 1
    #27954178 - 09/17/22 08:22 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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nat puffs cereal.  I’ll brb… gonna go prespend my millions..



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: fahtster] * 3
    #27954410 - 09/17/22 11:15 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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nat puffs cereal.  I’ll brb… gonna go prespend my millions..




The best way to start your day

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Rotnpins] * 5
    #27955687 - 09/18/22 08:09 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

So my mats are coming along. Very excited. Planning on fresh tea made from these next Saturday. It’ll be my first nat trip and my GF’s first trip in over 25 years. Hopefully we have enough fruits for the both of us then, and maybe some leftovers!

I saw some spores from one of the fruits. You can see them in the closeup. Should I start harvesting these or let them grow another week?





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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #27955695 - 09/18/22 08:14 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

So I did a G2G with a jar of nats to 21 new jars. 2 of my jars have serious grain clumping in the bottom I can’t seem to break up. Are these jars lost, or can I use them?



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Rotnpins] * 3
    #27955699 - 09/18/22 08:17 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

ok, let me start from the beginning, so this is the nata bag that gave me some albino fruiting bodies
The first flush I had only a Layer and no fruit


the red marker is important


same bag 2 days later




now notice to the top center where it is marked





so what I want to prove to this is that it is the same bag
now let's move on to JF as someone recalled,I only had JF in the bag once,after the 1st flush I had mold,

this is what the bag looked like


I do not have a photo of mold which is a pity,the photo was taken on June 11 at 20:04

and this one June 11 at 20:00,so it's still not the same bag,The bag with JF was opened only to cut the fruit I did not open it earlier, it always disinfects the hands before burying in others, the bags are not rubbed next to each other, but in a different room,but if it went through the enchanting way of making a nata bag, I don't fucking get it anymore



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: labbar] * 3
    #27955724 - 09/18/22 08:41 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Ps. Natalensis shoeboxes moving right along.  Left is a day or two ahead of right.

   


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: labbar]
    #27955729 - 09/18/22 08:47 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Nice!!
@Labbar From what I understand is you can get multiple varieties due to contam from other grows. I've never had it happen myself, but there are quite a few posts. You had some rouge spores with your Nats maybe. :mushroom2:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: cozmyc] * 5
    #27955813 - 09/18/22 10:09 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

this cake is from the same spawn as the bag that gave the albino


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: labbar]
    #27955882 - 09/18/22 11:08 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Wow, I've never seen a stipe do that.:eek:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: cozmyc] * 4
    #27955943 - 09/18/22 11:57 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

@labbar interesting. That is actually pretty convincing that you didn't mix up bags. I still really doubt they are albino nats though. I just think the chance of getting an albino nat with an identical phenotype to the JF that you also have growing is way too small to be convinced by this evidence

No disrespect at all, and some beautiful grows either way :super:


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Got some tubs starting to pin! the faht 16qt are a bit ahead of the 66qt mono. This is also what happened last time I ran nats




And a couple shoebox testers of different looking cultures. I think I've seen from others here that the cottony tomentose growth is usually what give gnarly overlay and wild looking fruits. Hoping for some weird shit






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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange] * 3
    #27955946 - 09/18/22 11:59 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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ok, let me start from the beginning, so this is the nata bag that gave me some albino fruiting bodies
The first flush I had only a Layer and no fruit


the red marker is important


same bag 2 days later




now notice to the top center where it is marked





so what I want to prove to this is that it is the same bag
now let's move on to JF as someone recalled,I only had JF in the bag once,after the 1st flush I had mold,

this is what the bag looked like


I do not have a photo of mold which is a pity,the photo was taken on June 11 at 20:04

and this one June 11 at 20:00,so it's still not the same bag,The bag with JF was opened only to cut the fruit I did not open it earlier, it always disinfects the hands before burying in others, the bags are not rubbed next to each other, but in a different room,but if it went through the enchanting way of making a nata bag, I don't fucking get it anymore








Labbar, I never had any reason to question you claims, so I’ve just quietly assumed you knew what you knew and others simply weren’t there to know. Just thinking “they’re beautiful fruits either way, who cares”.

But lookin at the above photo log, I’m totally convinced you’re correct. And I feel for the first time compelled to say so.

For the continually skeptical: sure, mix-ups happen, cross-contam happens. But unless a jar of JF and a jar of Nat accidentally got mixed together at spawn (which is plausible, but I’m giving Labbar the benefit of the doubt here, and I’ll explain why below) I don’t see a lot of ways for JF spores, which like many albinos must be manually swabbed since they don’t fall very freely, to get into another grow.

Plus look at the upside down dude in the lower-left of this tub…surrounded by other pale, but otherwise Nat-heavy appearing fruits…

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this cake is from the same spawn as the bag that gave the albino






Not to mention that BlueAndOrange just posted this TODAY…
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So my mats are coming along. Very excited.





Totally conceivable to me that with a little specific selection, BlueAndOrange could get some deceptively JF-looking fruits too.

I see no reason at this point to doubt that Labbar got some white Nats that happen to produce a flipped cap and grey-blue gills at maturity. JF aren’t even the only Cube to do this. Albinos and lucies happen all the time. While they once seemed super rare, more people worldwide are growing and documenting and sharing than ever before. Crazier things  have happened. Unless he gets them sequenced and they turn out to be cubes, or even a cool accidental cross similar to JudgeDoom’s intentional one, I’m just gonna remain convinced Labbar’s got Nats here.

Ultimately my two cents certainly don’t mean shit here, but I felt like sharing anyway.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Spicolis_Dad]
    #27955953 - 09/18/22 12:02 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Ps. Natalensis shoeboxes moving right along.  Left is a day or two ahead of right.

   




Hey @Spicoli_Dad, looking good!

I think you and I are progressing together at the same pace with our grows right now. Looks like you chose to go straight coir, no verm, right?

Hope we get a lot of nice fruit by the end of the month!  :goodluck:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Not Quite Social]
    #27955979 - 09/18/22 12:22 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

@Labbar, you have beautiful grows, man!

I don't know what happened, but I agree with cozmyc, TheDoobsker & Egon_Spengler, you clearly showed the two different phenos grew from the same bag.

I know it's hard to be challenged (and you were challenged hard), but I'm glad to see you were... and equally glad you're continuing to explain and show your work. I'm learning, and I think we all are, from all of this. It's very cool.

Thanks!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn] * 3
    #27956072 - 09/18/22 01:18 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)


1- 3rd flush dunk
2- where Natalensis fucked Trich
3- Tallest 2nd round sporulator


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Not Quite Social]
    #27956185 - 09/18/22 02:40 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Ps. Natalensis shoeboxes moving right along.  Left is a day or two ahead of right.

   




Hey @Spicoli_Dad, looking good!

I think you and I are progressing together at the same pace with our grows right now. Looks like you chose to go straight coir, no verm, right?

Hope we get a lot of nice fruit by the end of the month!  :goodluck:




Thanks man! Yep, 100& coir @ FC. and yeah, fingers crossed!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Spicolis_Dad] * 7
    #27956331 - 09/18/22 05:02 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Camera93] * 1
    #27956589 - 09/18/22 08:00 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I'm actually starting to give more thought to the idea mushrooms are possibly multidimensional shapeshifting aliens with the ability to fuck with us now and then when we think we have things figured out...


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: labbar] * 1
    #27956892 - 09/19/22 01:44 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Quote:

labbar said:
ok, let me start from the beginning, so this is the nata bag that gave me some albino fruiting bodies
The first flush I had only a Layer and no fruit


the red marker is important


same bag 2 days later




now notice to the top center where it is marked





so what I want to prove to this is that it is the same bag
now let's move on to JF as someone recalled,I only had JF in the bag once,after the 1st flush I had mold,

this is what the bag looked like


I do not have a photo of mold which is a pity,the photo was taken on June 11 at 20:04

and this one June 11 at 20:00,so it's still not the same bag,The bag with JF was opened only to cut the fruit I did not open it earlier, it always disinfects the hands before burying in others, the bags are not rubbed next to each other, but in a different room,but if it went through the enchanting way of making a nata bag, I don't fucking get it anymore






Well explained there, thank you.  I want this to be true for you, because it would be awesome.  Have you tested stability by growing from spores?


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