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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27946611 - 09/12/22 10:06 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Great. What point do I harvest them then?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange] * 3
    #27946613 - 09/12/22 10:08 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Well they will keep going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and then you're done

For real though it depends on the pheno

Some of mine start to blue, some get softer, some I just think yep, you're big enough now, some I don't really realise it's time to harvest until I see a little sporulation

It's really up to you, you will get an eye for it though, but they will get a heck of a lot bigger still


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn]
    #27946616 - 09/12/22 10:11 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

...or exactly when the snakes shed their skin :smile:

give them some fresh air from now on, they enjoy it


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #27946628 - 09/12/22 10:17 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Depends if you’re going to spawn each one individually or mix them. I would go with individual personally.



Second flush of my iso looking like PE almost.





Cool, that's what I was thinking I wanted to do, I want to see what the variations in myc translates to in fruiting.

Thanks A.k.a!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Gleyck]
    #27946835 - 09/12/22 01:00 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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...or exactly when the snakes shed their skin :smile:

give them some fresh air from now on, they enjoy it




Do I want to keep the lid off the shoebox? Drill holes? Just open it a couple times per day?

What do I do about keeping the moisture up? Must daily?

I’ve read the whole thread, but this is only my second grow ever. My hopes is 35g-50g wet in the next 2 weeks as my GF and I plan on tripping then with these as tea from fresh.

Very excited about first Nat trip.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #27946846 - 09/12/22 01:10 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

i keep the lid on until pins form, then i open once or twice a day for a moment (just because i am curious :wink:) and then i close it again. when the pins have established and mushrooms get bigger i unlatch and if necessary (height) i dub tub them although a plastic bag would be enough.
thats it
there is plenty fae with shoeboxes. but once they really start to grow a bit more fae is good to make them solid and increase in weight.

good surface conditions should be taken care of until the pins are there. and if you manage that conditions will stay good as mushrooms breathe just like us..


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
    #27946900 - 09/12/22 02:02 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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i keep the lid on until pins form, then i open once or twice a day for a moment (just because i am curious :wink:) and then i close it again. when the pins have established and mushrooms get bigger i unlatch and if necessary (height) i dub tub them although a plastic bag would be enough.
thats it
there is plenty fae with shoeboxes. but once they really start to grow a bit more fae is good to make them solid and increase in weight.

good surface conditions should be taken care of until the pins are there. and if you manage that conditions will stay good as mushrooms breathe just like us..




Thanks. I’ll probably dub tub this this week. Looking forward to a Nat trip in a couple weeks.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #27946903 - 09/12/22 02:04 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Any thoughts on making tea with nats? Should I do it with the citric acid like I do with the cubes? Looking to have a great nat first experience and was thinking tea from fresh would be how I did this unless you guys have better suggestions.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange] * 5
    #27946945 - 09/12/22 02:41 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Next round.  Gonna have to run from spores over again also until the short fat pheno shows up. I just couldn’t let this one get away.






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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn]
    #27946961 - 09/12/22 02:51 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

beautiful aberration
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Gleyck]
    #27947096 - 09/12/22 04:45 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

@ labbar- Man, those albinos look a lot like jack frost. Beautiful.

@AKA- Yeah those look like PE to me too, that's awesome.

Cool to see all the different phenos popping up with this species.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: hummingbird]
    #27947549 - 09/12/22 09:20 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Thoughts about hollow vs. solid nats? Mine are looking good, but I felt a couple of the bigger ones and they’re clearly hollow. :frown:

Really want to get some weight from the nats by late October or mid November.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #27947605 - 09/12/22 10:37 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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We (we as in world collective knowledge) don't not know how anti-depressant work on the brain as of today. And we know less about psylocibin than let's say SSRIs.





There have been several studies showing SSRI's work no better than placebo in most cases of depression.  Here's one. Only in severe cases do the SSRI's seem to perform better and it's only slightly.

But the fact that the placebo effect exists and is well proven should tell us that it's the mind itself that has the power to cure depression.  That's why psychedelics can work, it's not the chemical, it's the changing of perception.




My man you could not be further from the truth. I am team "fuck pharmaceuticals" and all that shit. My PERSONAL experience has been life changing at the least. At least with depression and anxiety. Cant speak to anything else but anti-depressants have pivoted my life regardless if its for the worse or the better but I would be DEBILITATED by anxiety before taking my meds. Just wanted to put that out there. I tried the therapy and all that but there are just some brains that are different than others. Gay, Trans, Bisexual, A Sexual... These are not things that can be cured by taking psychedelics or pharmaceuticals and it extends beyond that.

Wish I could of just talked this shit out to solve it but some people's brains just block that from happening. After trying verbal therapy I just didn't get the same results and calm when I was given something for my diagnosis. I also have a GI issue and I can't talk that away so why would something as complex as my brain be so simple? Give the non-pharmaceutical route a try but don't feel any type of shame if you have a medical imbalance.

Anyways back to the mushrooms.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: CocaineBuffet] * 3
    #27947640 - 09/12/22 11:41 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Well, I finally got around to my G2G task and spread a quart of colonized milo to 21 recipient jars. Let’s see if they all colonize. If so I have 2 more quarts to multiply out to 40+ more. I’m determined to grow all the nats this fall/winter!



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #27947681 - 09/13/22 01:19 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I've been selecting the more solid stipe ones for clones. Most of mine have been pretty hollow so far, but a few have been more solid than the rest.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn] * 2
    #27947696 - 09/13/22 01:51 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)


Why tho?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Gleyck]
    #27947705 - 09/13/22 02:05 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

N A T A L E N S I S
one of the least stable varieties we work with i dare to say..


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] * 1
    #27947717 - 09/13/22 02:39 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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N A T A L E N S I S
one of the least stable varieties we work with i dare to say..



Well, Natalensis is a species of its own. There is a looot to explore though. One day there might be as many Nat varieties out there as there are cube varieties.
Maybe that should be part of this threads purpose, to tame it and help it evolve.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Fridgedoor]
    #27947742 - 09/13/22 03:41 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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N A T A L E N S I S
one of the least stable varieties we work with i dare to say..



Well, Natalensis is a species of its own. There is a looot to explore though. One day there might be as many Nat varieties out there as there are cube varieties.
Maybe that should be part of this threads purpose, to tame it and help it evolve.



did i use the word variety wrong?

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natalensis pushing into the air, exploring .


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
    #27947744 - 09/13/22 03:44 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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N A T A L E N S I S
one of the least stable varieties we work with i dare to say..



Well, Natalensis is a species of its own. There is a looot to explore though. One day there might be as many Nat varieties out there as there are cube varieties.
Maybe that should be part of this threads purpose, to tame it and help it evolve.



did i use the word variety wrong?




Yeah, Cubensis is a species, and Golden Teachers, B+ etc are it's varieties.

Natalensis is a species, and it's varieties are the distinct phenotypes it puts out.


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