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Offlinechris77
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Konbri] * 5
    #27935076 - 09/05/22 09:38 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

to the oats haters out there, EAT THIS

24hrs after 2nd shake



these oats where dry (!) when i pc'ed them. and i mean really dry outside. and they were just cooked to the point that i could squeeze the boiled  grain out, but with a certain pressure.
theses jars took off slowly. kept me wondering if i went too dry this time. but now after second shake they are colonizing rapidly there is not a single wet grain and almost zero moisture in the jar.
that's it. love your oats and keep them on the dry side.

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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Gleyck]
    #27935108 - 09/05/22 09:59 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Gleyck said:

not to shabby for half a quart of WBS spawn  :heart:
Was also the only box with plant coir - the others have reptile coir - and was the driest and quickest.

First time I put shit in the dehydrator :rockon: Do you reckon 12h on 160F (or 70C) will be enough?




Nice job :laugh:! Mine barely take longer than 12 hours in the dehydrator (70 degrees Celsius). It's best to check the biggest fruits in one of the top compartments, if it snaps/crumbles easily. If it's still bendy and doesn't crumble, just continue dehydrating till cracker dry.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Fridgedoor]
    #27935127 - 09/05/22 10:16 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Nice job :laugh:! Mine barely take longer than 12 hours in the dehydrator (70 degrees Celsius). It's best to check the biggest fruits in one of the top compartments, if it snaps/crumbles easily. If it's still bendy and doesn't crumble, just continue dehydrating till cracker dry.




Thank you for the feedback!
Yeah, 7h passed and they look pretty done... gonna let it run a bit more. Stupid question: in the limit, what can happen if one run them dry for 48h? the actives won't degrade if the temp is 70C max, right?

Also, does anyone reuse desiccant bags (silica gel)? I'm running the 12h dehydrating cycle with 3 desiccant bags near the mushies, hopefully this will do the trick on drying them and make them humidity hungry again in the mason jars.
They only sell 100units and the prices are ridiculous in my corner of the world...


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Gleyck] * 1
    #27935142 - 09/05/22 10:29 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Gleyck said:
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Nice job :laugh:! Mine barely take longer than 12 hours in the dehydrator (70 degrees Celsius). It's best to check the biggest fruits in one of the top compartments, if it snaps/crumbles easily. If it's still bendy and doesn't crumble, just continue dehydrating till cracker dry.




Thank you for the feedback!
Yeah, 7h passed and they look pretty done... gonna let it run a bit more. Stupid question: in the limit, what can happen if one run them dry for 48h? the actives won't degrade if the temp is 70C max, right?

Also, does anyone reuse desiccant bags (silica gel)? I'm running the 12h dehydrating cycle with 3 desiccant bags near the mushies, hopefully this will do the trick on drying them and make them humidity hungry again in the mason jars.
They only sell 100units and the prices are ridiculous in my corner of the world...



my desiccant bags have color indicators and i "recharge" them in the microwave. works perfectly. dont know if the dehydrator works well for that.
longer drying won't hurt the alkaloids as far as i know.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
    #27935149 - 09/05/22 10:34 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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chris77 said:
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Gleyck said:
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Fridgedoor said:
Nice job :laugh:! Mine barely take longer than 12 hours in the dehydrator (70 degrees Celsius). It's best to check the biggest fruits in one of the top compartments, if it snaps/crumbles easily. If it's still bendy and doesn't crumble, just continue dehydrating till cracker dry.




Thank you for the feedback!
Yeah, 7h passed and they look pretty done... gonna let it run a bit more. Stupid question: in the limit, what can happen if one run them dry for 48h? the actives won't degrade if the temp is 70C max, right?

Also, does anyone reuse desiccant bags (silica gel)? I'm running the 12h dehydrating cycle with 3 desiccant bags near the mushies, hopefully this will do the trick on drying them and make them humidity hungry again in the mason jars.
They only sell 100units and the prices are ridiculous in my corner of the world...



my desiccant bags have color indicators and i "recharge" them in the microwave. works perfectly. dont know if the dehydrator works well for that.
longer drying won't hurt the alkaloids as far as i know.





Mine also have the color beads.. I've ran them through the dehydrator to recharge them.. I've only done it twice, but it worked great both times


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Rotnpins] * 3
    #27935177 - 09/05/22 11:00 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I toss a silica pack in the dehydrator for the last 30-60 min. I tend to run mine 115F for 6-12 hours depending how much and what species. I pop off the caps and tear the stipes of bigger mush in 1/2 to speed things along. Then vacuum seal in bags and toss in the freezer until needed.

I'll eventually make some chocolate bon bons and potent honey from most of them. Christmas light "tours" are just around the corner! :smile:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 7
    #27936186 - 09/05/22 09:04 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

So some of you may have followed my struggles of getting my spores to take off. Well, my first shoebox is fully colonized, and today I got my first pins. 2 pins in my bay tub. I only got a pic of one because of condensation, but I’m thrilled after 5 months of trying, I’m getting pins finally!



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #27936490 - 09/06/22 01:22 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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So some of you may have followed my struggles of getting my spores to take off. Well, my first shoebox is fully colonized, and today I got my first pins. 2 pins in my bay tub. I only got a pic of one because of condensation, but I’m thrilled after 5 months of trying, I’m getting pins finally!






Well done on joining the Nat train


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: schpat] * 1
    #27936766 - 09/06/22 07:12 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

It’s been over 5 months since first trying to germinate spores. Feels good to finally see pins!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #27936816 - 09/06/22 08:17 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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It’s been over 5 months since first trying to germinate spores. Feels good to finally see pins!



It's a good feeling when things go right in this hobby. I'm glad you are well on your way. Be ready, they produce so much I don't know what to do with them. Obviously eat them but storage space is a premium right now.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm] * 6
    #27936890 - 09/06/22 09:15 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I've had my biggest yielding tub with hpoo this last run.
It's currently already produced over 2.5kgs wet weight from 1.5 mycoquarts of spawn in a 40L monotub at 1:4 hpoo with a cv casing layer.

The tub won't be taken past the second flush but it's been an excellent yield vs straight cv so I'm doing multiple comparison grows at this point to concrete my thoughts.

I'll post up the nat tub comparison grow after the cv tub finishes it's 2nd flush later this week.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Spicolis_Dad] * 1
    #27937011 - 09/06/22 10:50 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

15 days since these were inoculated.  Thought it would have moved a little faster.  Is 30% colonized time for a shake, or longer?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Spicolis_Dad] * 2
    #27937023 - 09/06/22 10:54 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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15 days since these were inoculated.  Thought it would have moved a little faster.  Is 30% colonized time for a shake, or longer?






shake them babies up


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Spicolis_Dad]
    #27937024 - 09/06/22 10:55 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I would have given those a shake already, no hard rule on shaking. Shake em up!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm] * 3
    #27937300 - 09/06/22 02:02 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I am ready! I have desiccants, O2 absorbers, Mylar bags and vacuum sealers. Tons of mason jars.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #27937302 - 09/06/22 02:04 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Nice oats bro


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #27937337 - 09/06/22 02:29 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Nice oats bro



Thanks man! I used Eat's Easy Oat Prep.  Worked like a charm.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn] * 3
    #27937342 - 09/06/22 02:32 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Gleyck] * 2
    #27937424 - 09/06/22 03:45 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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DERRAYLD said:
I've had my biggest yielding tub with hpoo this last run.
It's currently already produced over 2.5kgs wet weight from 1.5 mycoquarts of spawn in a 40L monotub at 1:4 hpoo with a cv casing layer.

The tub won't be taken past the second flush but it's been an excellent yield vs straight cv so I'm doing multiple comparison grows at this point to concrete my thoughts.

I'll post up the nat tub comparison grow after the cv tub finishes it's 2nd flush later this week.




I agree. I got better flushes from hpoo. Mine was 1:3 with a cv top layer in a 27qt tub produced a total 1353g wet from the first and second flush combined. I'm going to go for a third flush but will probably call it after that since I'm seeing bruising all over the mycelium. It could be from my scissors when I cut the stems at the base.
My CV tub gave about half of that with the same ratio. I'm going for a 3rd flush with this one too.
I'm averaging 7%-8% weight when dry too. I had to buy more storage air tight containers. I'm taking a hiatus when these are done so I'll be good to go for a while.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn] * 4
    #27937642 - 09/06/22 05:48 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Update on first tub of Nats. Happy so far.


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