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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange]
    #27896630 - 08/09/22 10:08 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

hell yea you are!! I’m stoked for you


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: san pedro guy] * 1
    #27896641 - 08/09/22 10:23 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Thanks for all the help and cheerleading everyone. Mushrooms have changed my life, and I’m hoping the nats will let me continue on this path with less physical discomfort than the GTs I’ve started with.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange] * 1
    #27896678 - 08/09/22 11:09 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I PCd 6 jars of oats and made 2 T1 plates from that myc in my last picture.  A lot of other action starting on the rest of the streak on that plate and 1 of the other 4 as well. Exciting!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Spicolis_Dad] * 2
    #27896761 - 08/10/22 12:51 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Hpoo 42L monos throwing some gnarly mutations that become healthy mushrooms.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] * 2
    #27896766 - 08/10/22 12:57 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Coir tubs are acting strange and maturing at different stages.
Pretty sure it's related to the temperature at this stage as these are all the same culture and have been fruiting for a month now and required a heater to get going because it was just too cold.

These will continue to flush well but will just do it stuttered, normally they mature together or a day difference.



My nat tubs are currently 1.5 qt spawn to 4 qt substrate with a casing layer at spawn.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #27896787 - 08/10/22 01:42 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

All my nats have come in like that, just constantly growing new mushrooms and not really in flushes at all. Of course I only worked with MS, is that a clone you're working with?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
    #27896800 - 08/10/22 02:08 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yeh it's a clone, the flush is normally full and only a day or 2 apart for fruit maturity.

It's no stress, I know they'll keep producing for ages and will give me a great yield. I'm just not used to such a sparse first flush.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27896802 - 08/10/22 02:20 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Yeh it's a clone, the flush is normally full and only a day or 2 apart for fruit maturity.

It's no stress, I know they'll keep producing for ages and will give me a great yield. I'm just not used to such a sparse first flush.



thanks for showing this
hpoo seems to be the "better" first flush given conditions to be the same.
wouldnt you agree ?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
    #27896804 - 08/10/22 02:27 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I don't think these tubs are indicative of anything other than the hpoo possibly has a higher exothermic reaction which kept the sub warmer.

Normally the coir performs just fine.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27896807 - 08/10/22 02:43 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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I don't think these tubs are indicative of anything other than the hpoo possibly has a higher exothermic reaction which kept the sub warmer.

Normally the coir performs just fine.



makes sense!
yes, coir is fine for sure.
it's not easy to do a successful side by side. so many factors..


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Nimpo]
    #27897537 - 08/10/22 02:59 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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My nats are pinning 10 days since spawning and they look like cubes so far. I’ll post pics in a few days once the fruits are more developed for a verdict.

Zero overlay, very tomentose colonization tho




What do you guys think? Looking like cubes to me:



Spores came from a swab via marketplace, its possible things got accidentally switched up




Its possible I was drunk as hell during an agar sesh and mislabeled my petri work.

The pics above were from a "Nat" labeled dish, and now these current fruits are from an Orissa India plate. Possible I swapped them around? Or are these also not nats :hahthatsrich:

Idk some of yall got a lot more orange going on with the caps, but these are green tinted and dont look like any albino strain Ive ever grown.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Nimpo] * 6
    #27898254 - 08/11/22 12:52 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Unfortunately those aren't Nats either, you need to look at the veil and the gills.





Hpoo tubs filling in nicely, some beefy mush already.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] * 3
    #27898257 - 08/11/22 12:59 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)



Notice the veils are virtually non existent because they open so early and just keep growing.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27898364 - 08/11/22 05:20 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Unfortunately those aren't Nats either, you need to look at the veil and the gills.





Hpoo tubs filling in nicely, some beefy mush already.





It looks like you got minimal overlay with those big ass fruits. What process did you run? Did you go straight to fruiting conditions or did you let colonize first? Right now I got some on CV and others on hpoo as well. I still have grain colonizing so I'm looking to try another method to see how things progress and what's best. Damn good job with your grow!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm]
    #27898386 - 08/11/22 06:05 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I always go straight into fruiting at spawn.
This tub was 1.5 qt to 4 qt cv spawn with a around a 1" casing layer, maybe a bit thinner.

Hpoo tub is 1.5 qt to 4 qt hpoo & verm with a similar casing layer.

The minimal overlay is more clone specific in my opinion but you see with the hpoo tub it does puff up a bit during fruiting but it doesn't overlay.

Wait for the hpoo tub to mature, those are going to be chonkers.

Grain is all millet.

Fruited in a room that receives 12/12 light from a non sun facing window.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27898433 - 08/11/22 07:01 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Unfortunately those aren't Nats either, you need to look at the veil and the gills.





Hpoo tubs filling in nicely, some beefy mush already.






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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Nimpo] * 3
    #27898454 - 08/11/22 07:27 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

so i made 2 bags from two different clones result
fast colonization,very slow growth,out of curiosity, I have one bag in a room where I have 25 degrees all the time,and the second, where the temperature is up to 29,nat gives a fuck about this and goes up:grin:





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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27898499 - 08/11/22 08:13 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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I always go straight into fruiting at spawn.
This tub was 1.5 qt to 4 qt cv spawn with a around a 1" casing layer, maybe a bit thinner.

Hpoo tub is 1.5 qt to 4 qt hpoo & verm with a similar casing layer.

The minimal overlay is more clone specific in my opinion but you see with the hpoo tub it does puff up a bit during fruiting but it doesn't overlay.

Wait for the hpoo tub to mature, those are going to be chonkers.

Grain is all millet.

Fruited in a room that receives 12/12 light from a non sun facing window.



Nice! Thanks for she sharing the secrets. I did oats and milo/sorguhm in different tubs each on the 2 different substrates. Maybe I'll try CVG next, one with a top layer one without. I didn't use gypsum in the other ones because I never really notice a difference with it or without it but maybe these are different.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm] * 4
    #27898613 - 08/11/22 09:15 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Some more 1st flush fruit, perfectly straight around 15- 20cm length



Partial first flush, probably half left to mature in the tub still.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] * 4
    #27898631 - 08/11/22 09:23 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

For interest for those that haven't run hpoo, generally speaking hpoo is a bit slower than coir.

Here's the perfect example of it,  same jars of millet used and spawned at the same time.



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