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Bigworm



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
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His words were "I met a chick goddess and she's angry, dude". I guess he ended up in some kind of DMT realm.
I might not want to go back either, depending on what she was mad about.
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 Note to self: don't wake up sober wife to show her shit you see tripping
Oh hell no. Never wake the wife up!
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DoctorBenway
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Oh happy day! Shoebox getting ready to shoot off some rockets!
 And a set of brf also getting ready! Gonna be done with brf now that shoebox rolling, will fill space with those as brf finish but they seem to just keep going and going lol
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Nimpo
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My nats are pinning 10 days since spawning and they look like cubes so far. I’ll post pics in a few days once the fruits are more developed for a verdict.
Zero overlay, very tomentose colonization tho
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DoctorBenway
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Nimpo]
#27887164 - 08/02/22 04:25 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome! I think im the oddball here who loves the extreme overlay lol
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Bigworm



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I inoculated 2 separate qt of sorgum and then a week later I inoculated 1qt whole oats. My nats on the oats are 90% colonized and the sorgum is at about 75%. I think mine like oats more. We will see during fruiting which is better for my grow. I plan on going to bulk by the end of the week. Anyone else try different grains to see what they like? Any difference with hpoo sub compared to C/V or C/V/G?
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san pedro guy
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Nimpo]
#27887256 - 08/02/22 05:52 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Zero overlay, very tomentose colonization tho
I had a few boxes looked just like cubes but about 30 hours later the stipes turned all ruffled, caps went green and they started curling up like pig tails haha gotta love em!
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DoctorBenway
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm] 1
#27887383 - 08/02/22 07:40 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I been doing brown rice in halfpints (setup like its pf tek with vermiculite filter and i dump that in too when s2b) 100% in less than 10 days average for me. For bulk i been doin jiffy atm.
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DERRAYLD
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By far the slowest nat tubs I've grown due to the cold weather but they're knotting up nicely and should be an awesome flush of some potent Nats.

Spawned 11 July
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Marcus666
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
#27887581 - 08/03/22 12:35 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Hi folks!
Are P.natalensis the same as Natal Super Strength?
I've been flicking through the search function and any other threads that get started keep getting linked to page 1 of this thread and I've found both yes and no answers along the way of reading through this.
I've also been told by a spore vendor that NSS are P.cubensis and P.natalensis is completely different. Much along the lines of the "Blue Meanie" being a name for both a cube and a pan cyan.
I'm quite intrigued by these fruits you folks are growing and wouldn't mind having a pop at them.
Thanks in advance and apologies if I've missed the definitive answer in this thread somewhere!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Marcus666] 1
#27887582 - 08/03/22 12:39 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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There's still a bit of a debate to be honest, from my experience NSS is a cube and Nats are well... Nats.
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Marcus666
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
#27887605 - 08/03/22 01:33 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: There's still a bit of a debate to be honest, from my experience NSS is a cube and Nats are well... Nats.
Ah, thanks Derrayld.
I may just grab the NSS syringe anyway and keep my eyes peeled for a Nats print.
I'm firing up the hood again and pouring agar this week. 
Thanks again!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] 4
#27887610 - 08/03/22 01:46 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I broke up my first tub and put it outside in the garden under some straw and got these fruits a few days later. It was triple digits here the last week, and these didnt't give af...

This is my other nat culture I started with off the original 2 germ plates. It was really slow on grains, but is moving nicely on coir so far. This tub was spawned on the 29th.
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DERRAYLD said: There's still a bit of a debate to be honest, from my experience NSS is a cube and Nats are well... Nats.
Ah, thanks Derrayld.
I may just grab the NSS syringe anyway and keep my eyes peeled for a Nats print.
I'm firing up the hood again and pouring agar this week. 
Thanks again!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27503352#27503352
Alan sequenced a NSS fruit and it’s genetically different than cubensis, but microscopically the same.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Marcus666] 1
#27887725 - 08/03/22 07:13 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Marcus666 said: Hi folks!
Are P.natalensis the same as Natal Super Strength?
I've been flicking through the search function and any other threads that get started keep getting linked to page 1 of this thread and I've found both yes and no answers along the way of reading through this.
I've also been told by a spore vendor that NSS are P.cubensis and P.natalensis is completely different. Much along the lines of the "Blue Meanie" being a name for both a cube and a pan cyan.
I'm quite intrigued by these fruits you folks are growing and wouldn't mind having a pop at them.
Thanks in advance and apologies if I've missed the definitive answer in this thread somewhere!

The sample that was sent to A Rockefeller for dna sequencing was labeled P. Cubensis Natal super strain came out to be not a cubensis iirc they are both natalensis. I obtained an mss from a sponsored vendor here labeled p. Natalensis natal super strain and its the same as what the majority here are cultivating as well... tendency to make huge overlay strong fruits with different headspace than cubes and bruise greenish... im sure there are cubes mislabeled as natalensis in circulation to further complicate things... pretty sure both originated from the same south african vendor before slowly becoming popular, fingers crossed we start seeing more cultivars of this species in circulation moving forward, be cool to see some leucistic and albino variants
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Wall.E] 2
#27887789 - 08/03/22 08:21 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: There's still a bit of a debate to be honest, from my experience NSS is a cube and Nats are well... Nats.
Ah, thanks Derrayld.
I may just grab the NSS syringe anyway and keep my eyes peeled for a Nats print.
I'm firing up the hood again and pouring agar this week. 
Thanks again!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27503352#27503352
Alan sequenced a NSS fruit and it’s genetically different than cubensis, but microscopically the same.
No QM to come at you this time!
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SwabMarley] 2
#27887872 - 08/03/22 09:09 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Okay I have subsequently contacted Alan regarding this and plan to supply him with samples of nss and natalensis.
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Marcus666
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27503352#27503352
Alan sequenced a NSS fruit and it’s genetically different than cubensis, but microscopically the same.
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The sample that was sent to A Rockefeller for dna sequencing was labeled P. Cubensis Natal super strain came out to be not a cubensis iirc they are both natalensis. I obtained an mss from a sponsored vendor here labeled p. Natalensis natal super strain and its the same as what the majority here are cultivating as well... tendency to make huge overlay strong fruits with different headspace than cubes and bruise greenish... im sure there are cubes mislabeled as natalensis in circulation to further complicate things... pretty sure both originated from the same south african vendor before slowly becoming popular, fingers crossed we start seeing more cultivars of this species in circulation moving forward, be cool to see some leucistic and albino variants
Nice one folks!
It's all starting to make sense now. 
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] 1
#27888086 - 08/03/22 11:51 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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DERRAYLD said: Okay I have subsequently contacted Alan regarding this and plan to supply him with samples of nss and natalensis.
Awesome, but what im really curious to see would be a spectroanalysis... i wanna know whats responsible for the different headspace, clearly theres something in there thats either not in cubensis at all or at a much lower amount
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Adas
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That would be difficult to determine tho. It might be an alkaloid similar to Psilo, or it may not. In fact, it may not be an alkaloid at all. When you don't know what you're looking for, it complicates things a great deal.
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YoshiTrainer
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas] 7
#27888302 - 08/03/22 02:33 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, Natty, Natty Natty twenty one thousand miles away from home, yeah! Oh, Natty, Natty And that's a long way For Natty to be from home
Second trashcan, 2nd flush.

I've read about some mushrooms containing 'kava like' chemicals bis-noryangonin and hispidin but who knows if Nats might?
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