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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange] * 2
    #27885237 - 08/01/22 11:21 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

So maybe I’m getting the mycelium to grow. It’s going slowly, but it seems to be clean mycelium as far as I can see up close in person. From light whispy mycelium on agar, it’s coming to life on grain.

If these colonize I’ll take 2 to bulk and 2 to g2g.

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The agar in the grain (jars on the left):



The mycelium starting to grow:



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27885299 - 08/01/22 12:04 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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I sit in the dark now for oev, they become very pronounced and vivid with so much movement and texture but like a vapor cloud shifting around.




That's a good way to describe it, a lot of shifting.  Kind of like 2 realities offset a bit from each other, shifting round in circles, dancing.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
    #27885352 - 08/01/22 12:59 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I'm hoping that they produce strong visuals at higher doses at least. I have b+ that are nonvisual and I feel it's a wasted trip without visual stuff going on. I won't even use the b+ because of it. I'll find out soon I hope.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Bigworm]
    #27885373 - 08/01/22 01:17 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I wonder if fresh mush would give better visuals than dry?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn]
    #27885431 - 08/01/22 02:05 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I got 2 monotubs fully colonized of the natalensis. Ive read about the first 30 pages of this threat hehe, should a casing be used on this strain or no because it will colonize it too fast anyway? Hopefully I will have a decent flush to post!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: GanjaLion] * 1
    #27885443 - 08/01/22 02:14 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

No, just treat nats the same as standard cubes


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 1
    #27885491 - 08/01/22 02:55 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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I wonder if fresh mush would give better visuals than dry?




For me, nope it was about the same.  But the highest I've gone with fresh was 35g.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] * 1
    #27885507 - 08/01/22 03:04 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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quite interesting this. if i recall correctly nobody has so far reported natalensis to be mindblowing in terms of visual hallucinations, which are rather described as beautiful and on the subtle side, cloudy and somewhat more vague.




Yea, cloudy and vague is a good way to describe it. Somewhat like a "stoning" effect, but in a good way. Like a blanket keeping everything nice and stable.

The lack of visuals can be extremely important to some people. It lets you focus more on the thoughts and emotions, which is really the point of this all.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas]
    #27885516 - 08/01/22 03:12 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Loving this species, could literally take it in public.




DO literally take it in public, at 0.5g level. :snoopyes:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] * 2
    #27885600 - 08/01/22 04:00 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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informations and experiences are coming in, makes me wonder and curious to try soon.
less anxiety means less shattering of ego?, means less effective alkaloids?
which other compound could create this "pleasant and less anxious" coming on of the trip?




Thats a very good question, hopefully sometime soon a spectroanalysis is conducted cuz it really seems like theres something special in these thats not found in other actives, atleast not in the same concentration. I wouldnt really say less effective but more differently effected lol, i think maybe more applicable for treatment of anxiety/depression tbh.



quite interesting this. if i recall correctly nobody has so far reported natalensis to be mindblowing in terms of visual hallucinations, which are rather described as beautiful and on the subtle side, cloudy and somewhat more vague.




Ive recently read this entire thread and there are a few larger dose reports (8g iirc) that sound like OBE dmt like visions. As for the ego death thing, i feel like many see this as some sort of freak out ish experience whereas the term ego is latin for "i am" so what i think of as ego death is the level at which you are no longer aware you exist or reality exists and are beamed aboard the mothership where entities might show you their lazer beam infused rubiks cubes n other weird shit... i think natalensis is certainly capable of this level experience but it might be less of a panic freakout on the way in but i havent gone that deep yet myself.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DoctorBenway]
    #27885604 - 08/01/22 04:06 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I’ve had ego death while tripping on cubes. It was amazing. It’s an experience I’m trying to repeat. Most recent trip had brief flickers of losing my sense of self, but not the dissolution of ego/merging with everything I have had. I loved that experience and long to revisit it.

Hopefully the nats will be able to get me there.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: BlueAndOrange] * 2
    #27885645 - 08/01/22 04:36 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

.1 dmt used to be my nightcap i do enjoy that level of consciousness/lack of consciousness lol... that being said im also looking forward to slowly increasing doses with nats to explore that realm again! Next time will be camping in a couple weeks and planning on 3g around the fire if that goes well (im sure it will) ill prolly go for 6g sensory depravation and see where that takes me.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas] * 2
    #27886124 - 08/01/22 08:59 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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quite interesting this. if i recall correctly nobody has so far reported natalensis to be mindblowing in terms of visual hallucinations, which are rather described as beautiful and on the subtle side, cloudy and somewhat more vague.




Yea, cloudy and vague is a good way to describe it. Somewhat like a "stoning" effect, but in a good way. Like a blanket keeping everything nice and stable.

The lack of visuals can be extremely important to some people. It lets you focus more on the thoughts and emotions, which is really the point of this all.





I don't mind visuals but they can get distracting sometimes. I go to the show for the music not the light show. Not that a good lightshow isn't fun sometimes, but if I can't dance to the music...what's the point?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: hummingbird] * 3
    #27886216 - 08/01/22 10:49 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Well I get very pronounced visuals from 2 gram only, but I was always sensitive when it comes to mind altering substances.
Many times I have experienced DMT-visuals on this dose of Nats. So the visuals are nice, but so different compared to cubes.

I trip outside in my garden mostly. Closed eyes I found myself in a sea of patterns and melting into them.
I recommend checking out the sky for OEVs, especially when it's partially cloudy. It's mindblowing what's going on up there. I saw things like alien activity, a group of demons crawling towards me from the horizon or something that looked like watermarks in the sky. Clouds behave totally different. I had to wake up my wife twice already and ask her to get up and check out the sky, because I couldn't figure out if it's a part of the trip or real. Well, she wasn't impressed... It turned out everything was part of the trip.

I am also sure it's dose dependent. A friend of mine who regularly tripped on high doses (5gram and up) told me he had a challenging trip last Christmas. He hasn't touched Nats ever since and he used to love Natalensis. His words were "I met a chick goddess and she's angry, dude". I guess he ended up in some kind of DMT realm.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Fridgedoor]
    #27886282 - 08/02/22 12:21 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

so interesting to get some insight in your experiences with natalensis. thank you for sharing.

@docbennet yes, egodeath as when you "get beamed aboard the mothership" is what i am talking about.
last time on 3g cubensis i was shown the "door" but the dose was a bit too little to be naturally pushed through. so the ego set back in and brought me back to the campfire. maybe if i had been alone and in a more "carefree" situation, laying down with eyes closed, it would still have been enough to enter.
...or rather "exit"
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Fridgedoor] * 4
    #27886326 - 08/02/22 02:46 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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I had to wake up my wife twice already and ask her to get up and check out the sky, because I couldn't figure out if it's a part of the trip or real. Well, she wasn't impressed... It turned out everything was part of the trip.





:rofl:
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester] * 1
    #27886332 - 08/02/22 02:51 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Note to self: don't wake up sober wife to show her shit you see tripping



Exactly :lol: ...man I was kind of disappointed she didn't share my enthusiasm. Now she teases me everytime there are clouds in the sky "wow, just look at the clouds. LOOK at them!"


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Forrester]
    #27886333 - 08/02/22 02:53 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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I had to wake up my wife twice already and ask her to get up and check out the sky, because I couldn't figure out if it's a part of the trip or real. Well, she wasn't impressed... It turned out everything was part of the trip.





:rofl:
Note to self: don't wake up sober wife to show her shit you see tripping



:manson:

i have to agree, clouds are the perfect indicator. to me they are the most "impressive" breathing objects .
pulsing omnidirectional, meandering molecules..
although a fire at night ain't boring either :wink:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
    #27886337 - 08/02/22 03:06 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I hope I didn't look like old Charly up there lol.
Yes a fire is awesome. It's winter over here and I had a fire going in the fireplace during a Natalensis journey recently. It kind of looked artificial, but still awesome to look at. Very difficult to describe.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Fridgedoor] * 1
    #27886338 - 08/02/22 03:07 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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I hope I didn't look like old Charly up there lol.
Yes a fire is awesome. It's winter over here and I had a fire going in the fireplace during a Natalensis journey recently. It kind of looked artificial, but still awesome to look at. Very difficult to describe.



hahaa. not at all, i totally get your meaning, mushrooms take us beyond words, beyond the known and recognisable..


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