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Outdoor Bisp + Nats

Here the first pic is a cluster I've picked shortly after taking this photo. Dumped it on the bark mulch. Then we got some rain and it turned into the second pic. Lol
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Adas] 2
#27816325 - 06/12/22 03:49 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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First nat shoo boxβ¦looking like itβs about to do something!

in classic nat fashion, veil broke off 2 days ago
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SirPsycho]
#27816388 - 06/12/22 04:34 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said: I'm fucking broken and disheartened. The two jars on top in the pics yesterday turned green. 
This is what I get for not changing after work before doing inoculations. 
All of my ziploc twist and locks I have ever tried to do turned green. Including the ones with micropore tape exactly like yours.
I have also found that when using things with small particulate like coir, verm, poo, as opposed to just grain, my jars and bags go green far more often. Sometimes I see a small piece of particulate on a thread or jar mouth or something and wonder if this is why the contam happened.
I stopped screwing around with all-in-ones for this reason. I know my spore load is higher than most people. I cult in a basement which had mold issues in the past.
It might not have anything to do with your clothes.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: karri0n]
#27816561 - 06/12/22 06:16 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Nah, it was definitely me being sloppy. Haven't had many issues with the bottles themselves and I've been using that method almost exclusively my whole time cultivating
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Weird sclerotia like formations in my P. Natalensis brf jars, noccd 5.19. I've read up and seen others reporting these making stones. Interested to check em out early next month when I got time to run em out
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I was just speaking to someone about that yesterday. I was in utter disbelief and my only response was "wtf" over and over but their natalensis definitely produced what looks like scletoria. They had pics of both fruit, little stones of of the jar and giant stones poking through the surface of a tub
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SirPsycho]
#27816649 - 06/12/22 07:16 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I have atl7/tampanensis/mexicana all rolling on brown rice and if those are stones in the pic I posted lol.... they dwarf the other 3 by a bit xD been working with stones for awhile and these definitely look like em to me. Somewhere I read they can turn green, supposedly the fruits also bruise green. Certainly an interesting strain and extremely aggressive colonization.
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Okay I'm sold. Every day that goes by I think more and more of just ditching all other projects and sticking to nats and the likes.
THESE THINGS ARE LEGIT AS FUCK. 10/10 friends I went camping with said these were the best mushrooms they ever had. The lightness that comes as the mushrooms take over is just like rolling and holy fuck, the trip after it was just amazing. I'm a few weeks too far removed for a trip report, but the beauty, and warmth felt was unlike any other trip I've ever had before. There was zero fight or anxiousness in sight, only peace. It literally has the effects of mdma and mushrooms without the crash that can be associated with mdma after. If ya'll haven't kept up with recent scientific literature- this is a really good thing.
These fuckers are therapeutic. I really don't see a need to grow anything else but mushrooms with effects similar to these.
And I truly believe that anyone looking for healing from PTSD, anxiety, depression, or just a mental fucking massage in this chaotic digital world should use nats over cubes as a tool. Cubes are schwag weed to me now. I don't think this can ever change back. I'm still interested in Semperviva, Tamps, Mexicana, and Cyans. But cubes just seem pointless now as Nats are just as easy to grow, and a far superior medicine. No hate on cubes at end of day, and for micro-dosing I'm still all in, but for anything more macro at this point...#teamnats
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Mycelium Juice said: Okay I'm sold. Every day that goes by I think more and more of just ditching all other projects and sticking to nats and the likes.
THESE THINGS ARE LEGIT AS FUCK. 10/10 friends I went camping with said these were the best mushrooms they ever had. The lightness that comes as the mushrooms take over is just like rolling and holy fuck, the trip after it was just amazing. I'm a few weeks too far removed for a trip report, but the beauty, and warmth felt was unlike any other trip I've ever had before. There was zero fight or anxiousness in sight, only peace. It literally has the effects of mdma and mushrooms without the crash that can be associated with mdma after. If ya'll haven't kept up with recent scientific literature- this is a really good thing.
These fuckers are therapeutic. I really don't see a need to grow anything else but mushrooms with effects similar to these.
And I truly believe that anyone looking for healing from PTSD, anxiety, depression, or just a mental fucking massage in this chaotic digital world should use nats over cubes as a tool. Cubes are schwag weed to me now. I don't think this can ever change back. I'm still interested in Semperviva, Tamps, Mexicana, and Cyans. But cubes just seem pointless now as Nats are just as easy to grow, and a far superior medicine. No hate on cubes at end of day, and for micro-dosing I'm still all in, but for anything more macro at this point...#teamnats
Itβs reports like this that make me think Iβm going to be in the same boat. My only question is why not also micro dose the nats?
Iβm probably 2-3 months away from my first nat trip. Iβm on T2 of cleaning spores on agar.
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BlueAndOrange said: Itβs reports like this that make me think Iβm going to be in the same boat. My only question is why not also micro dose the nats?
I think I'm just trying to still give cubensis some respect as it's been such a helpful tool in my life Microdosing a few years back literally saved me from some really dark shit and it only took 3-4 weeks to truly start a new slate. It was a god damn god send at the time .
Funny thing about it- I had an ounce in my cupboard at the time because I used to like eating a shit ton every now and then- but after some unexpected deaths and what not I was kinda scared as fuck of them. Tried to eat a few grams a year in and was just surrounded by death- i think because the wounds were still new and my life still had people actively dying in it.
Eventually after a lot of dark months I stumbled on microdosing and traumatic feedback loops. (Big pharma is not an option to me, i respect it as a tool for others- but I've seen it fuck up some people in my life in a bad way too.) Took those shrooms that scared the fuck out of me from the cupboard to microdose (tried to do yoga as well every microdose) and boom! about a month later I could just go out and start trying to live life again. It was wild.
To answer your question though BlueAndOrange- lol! Nats prbly better for that too! I do have friends that really like Amazons for microdosing- because it's light and happy. and the few times I've grown Menace to microdose- I swear that shit just makes me clean my house for 4 hours 
But could definitely see Nats taking the cake there too. You want your weed edibles made with schwag weed or kind bud? I gotta feel it's kind of similar.
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And I truly believe that anyone looking for healing from PTSD, anxiety, depression, or just a mental fucking massage in this chaotic digital world should use nats over cubes as a tool. Cubes are schwag weed to me now. I don't think this can ever change back. I'm still interested in Semperviva, Tamps, Mexicana, and Cyans. But cubes just seem pointless now as Nats are just as easy to grow, and a far superior medicine. No hate on cubes at end of day, and for micro-dosing I'm still all in, but for anything more macro at this point...#teamnats
Big words. I can't wait to try them!
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I debated this with nonsence on the discord and eventually just left the conversation; he was adamant we are all making this up essentially and that Nats are not special.
I chose not to debate further knowing what I had experienced after 24 years of consuming cubensis vs natalaneis effects.
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Yeah I'm sitting at 24 years experience with cubes as well DerraylD I'm pretty sure the grip of animals that are slowly turning into old men I went camping with would be at that experience level as well- and we all thought Nats were special. I don't think my opinion will change on them anytime soon. It's fitting the person arguing with you was named nonsence
Also thought of your comment when I was on them...
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DERRAYLD said: My last nat experience was all anime and my couch. Just chilled in a total blissful daze while evangelion confused me as I went in and out of psychedelic consciousness.
i was thinking "holy fuck these things are so smooth I could take a macro on the couch and just watch some anime or something". I totally understood your comment. Usually Ive been reserving larger doses for a few times a year in a good setting- but hot damn! Nats can serve up some good mushroom love with with extremely minimal chances of a bad time it seems. Could probably be very useful for people trying to get the macro healing effects. Gotta say the icing on the cake for my healing journey truly was taking a larger dose again a few years after I got on the microdose train. It was so damn affirming and special. These things really are a gift
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I enjoy a 2 gram Nat tea every 1-2 weeks since more than 2 years now. Recently I wanted to feel what the difference is compared to cubes, since I basically forgot about how they feel like. So I tried cubes twice now and thereβs quite a big difference in my opinion.
As mentioned above, Nats give me a very clear experience. Very focussed and upbeat, rarely dark and I never get confusing thought loops I get on cubes sometimes. I really enjoy moving around in the garden, looking at each plant on Nats, whereas cubes make me think trice about getting up from the couch to go to the toilet, before I actually convince myself to finally get up and go there...
Nats are great!
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I'm giving it a solid shot. Tried to grow a germ plate in bags and it failed miserably. This time is looking alot better though! Should see pins soon.
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Fridgedoor said: I enjoy a 2 gram Nat tea every 1-2 weeks since more than 2 years now. Recently I wanted to feel what the difference is compared to cubes, since I basically forgot about how they feel like. So I tried cubes twice now and thereβs quite a big difference in my opinion.
As mentioned above, Nats give me a very clear experience. Very focussed and upbeat, rarely dark and I never get confusing thought loops I get on cubes sometimes. I really enjoy moving around in the garden, looking at each plant on Nats, whereas cubes make me think trice about getting up from the couch to go to the toilet, before I actually convince myself to finally get up and go there...
Nats are great!
All these reports have heightened my curiosity even more. Got a few jars and some more plates do shouldn't be too long.
But the thing is that I don't recognize all the above ailments of cube trips people have. I love to do all the active stuff, wandering around, studying the plants, being out in the garden, etc all the time when on 10 to 15 grams of dry RW just as easy. I never get that 'I can't get up out of the couch' vibe..
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Tweeq] 1
#27817168 - 06/13/22 07:16 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Somebody had a tub with stones breaking the surface??
If that happened is there a link to the thread?
Iβve never had anything close to stones from natalensis and always assumed the stone type stuff people see in jars is just that thick overlay being compressed against the glass. But stones breaking the surface would disprove that.
I just canβt imagine they really make stones with all the grows in here over the last year or so and nobody seeing any.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a] 1
#27817171 - 06/13/22 07:23 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SirPsycho] 2
#27817197 - 06/13/22 07:52 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said:

Was this fella growing stone producers at the same time as nats, perchance?
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You can see that was one of my questions too, he claims they are not just mislabeled stone producers
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