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Panny
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Moopers] 2
#27725543 - 04/08/22 10:56 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Third flush
I'm going to be trying these babies soon. How's the duration with these? I've taken a sub 1g dose of Panaeolus bisporus and the trip only lasted 3hrs. I think that's due to less material being consumed. Can I expect a similar duration with a similar dose with these?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Panny] 1
#27725562 - 04/08/22 11:16 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Panny said: I'm going to be trying these babies soon. How's the duration with these? I've taken a sub 1g dose of Panaeolus bisporus and the trip only lasted 3hrs. I think that's due to less material being consumed. Can I expect a similar duration with a similar dose with these?
My first trip felt short, like 4 hours. The second trip felt average, around 6-6.5. Each trip was from a different tub, both done powdered and stirred into OJ. So IME, YMMV.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#27725563 - 04/08/22 11:17 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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chris77 said: hi. this thread is so long .. cant read it all right now.. today i finally put some natalensis 'zulu' spores that i received gratefully in return for a joke to agar. fingers crossed. as for choice of substrate/grain/supplements/temps/etc .. anything to be aware of particularly? now that my PC arrived so many possibilities. whole oats would have been my choice..
Wow, this is the first time I'm seeing a name for a natalansis variety. Anyone else know of other varieties?
I've only grown them once, but I treated them exactly like cubes and had success with them.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Moopers]
#27725579 - 04/08/22 11:31 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Moopers said:
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Panny said: I'm going to be trying these babies soon. How's the duration with these? I've taken a sub 1g dose of Panaeolus bisporus and the trip only lasted 3hrs. I think that's due to less material being consumed. Can I expect a similar duration with a similar dose with these?
My first trip felt short, like 4 hours. The second trip felt average, around 6-6.5. Each trip was from a different tub, both done powdered and stirred into OJ. So IME, YMMV.
Thanks! I was going to consume them the same way. What was the dosage for those trips?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Panny]
#27725635 - 04/08/22 12:24 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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3.5g for the short trip. Trip report in my grow log (scroll to bottom).
3g fruits + 0.2g overlay for the average length trip. Trip report.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Moopers] 1
#27725667 - 04/08/22 12:57 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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My experience has been rhizo cultures overlay the worst.
This culture I’ve been transferring for like a year is super tame now. Doesn’t look anything like natal on the plate and the fruits are pretty weird too. 
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27725671 - 04/08/22 01:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: My experience has been rhizo cultures overlay the worst.
This culture I’ve been transferring for like a year is super tame now. Doesn’t look anything like natal on the plate and the fruits are pretty weird too. 

Good thing I just put some rhizo mycelium to grain a few hours ago
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harvested like 2 ounces of snakes today... took like 20 minutes lol
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27725690 - 04/08/22 01:14 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: My experience has been rhizo cultures overlay the worst.
This culture I’ve been transferring for like a year is super tame now. Doesn’t look anything like natal on the plate and the fruits are pretty weird too. 

Are they potent tho?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27725696 - 04/08/22 01:20 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: My experience has been rhizo cultures overlay the worst.
This culture I’ve been transferring for like a year is super tame now. Doesn’t look anything like natal on the plate and the fruits are pretty weird too. 

This is what my natalensis clone plates look like. Not crazy rhizo, not tomentose, but silky/thready like azurescens myc.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Panny]
#27725880 - 04/08/22 03:21 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Panny said:
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chris77 said: hi. this thread is so long .. cant read it all right now.. today i finally put some natalensis 'zulu' spores that i received gratefully in return for a joke to agar. fingers crossed. as for choice of substrate/grain/supplements/temps/etc .. anything to be aware of particularly? now that my PC arrived so many possibilities. whole oats would have been my choice..
Wow, this is the first time I'm seeing a name for a natalansis variety. Anyone else know of other varieties?
I've only grown them once, but I treated them exactly like cubes and had success with them.
it was written on the aluminium. don't know more about it.. yet
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77]
#27725959 - 04/08/22 04:18 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Honestly I haven’t eaten any of the last grow yet. Originally they were very good but that was like 6 transfers ago.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] 2
#27725965 - 04/08/22 04:23 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Pins in the 66qt ez-dial!!! Not very many yet but they keep slowly popping up.
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It is crazy to me how the pins just pop up through all that overlay. If I had a regular cube tube that overlayed like these sometimes seem too, I would assume it was a goner. Can’t wait to run these. Have some nice T2s. Their germ plate is completely overrun and is growing against the lid of the dish and down the gap and against the plastic wrap like it is trying to get out. I’ll snag a pic when I get home.
So with Nats it is preferable to select the non rhizomorphic, less aggressive myc?
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RiseOMorpheus said: Pins in the 66qt ez-dial!!! Not very many yet but they keep slowly popping up.

You made it too ROM! Nice work friend! It's so wild that they pin through that overlay, but I guess that's just our new normal if we rocking Nats. My dehydrator seems to be okay with it rn
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MysticMycologist said: So with Nats it is preferable to select the non rhizomorphic, less aggressive myc?
That's what I've heard, but some people also say that tomentose mycelium doesn't want to fruit sometimes. I did T2s yesterday and went 50/50 with rhizo and tomentose. No better way of knowing than testing it out yourself, right?
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MysticMycologist said: So with Nats it is preferable to select the non rhizomorphic, less aggressive myc?
+1 for run them all and find out 
If you’re running the spores I sent you, I’ve had the best luck with mycelium that’s rhizo or somewhere in the middle. Below are pics of rhizo cultures just before fruiting. The overlay is quite tame compared to others, but that’s the worst it gets for me. Not sure why, but I struggle to get the tomentose cultures to fruit.

Edited by MojaveMyc (04/09/22 07:17 AM)
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Mycelium Juice said: You made it too ROM! Nice work friend! It's so wild that they pin through that overlay, but I guess that's just our new normal if we rocking Nats. My dehydrator seems to be okay with it rn 
I did indeed!!! These things are sooooo slow growing. From spawn to harvest they’re almost as bad as APE’s. On the agar and colonizing side of things they’re stupid fast. It is pretty nuts to watch that white mat for 20 days, and then pins magically appear! What was your total dried off your tub?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MojaveMyc]
#27726827 - 04/09/22 07:31 AM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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It is your spores, thanks btw. The mycelium seems aggressive on the plates and silky, but not tomentose. Should be going to grain in a few more days. I’m excited.
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That mutated clone-culture actually is making fruits BEFORE the clouds come in.

Hopefully they keep winning the race...
In other news, BOTH subtropicalis shoeboxes are pinning like crazy after being spawned on April 1st (not a joke). Hopefully they like my surface...
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