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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SwabMarley]
    #27721986 - 04/05/22 10:43 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SwabMarley]
    #27721988 - 04/05/22 10:45 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

You'll get there myc, this culture has been grown out for 2 years now... it just does it's thing at this stage.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD] * 1
    #27722001 - 04/05/22 10:55 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I know man, my cousin doesn’t handle cubes well so I promised him this new strain that is ‘completely different and easier to handle’ only to be left looking like a cunt because I can’t grow it :tongue:
I’ll keep trying man, just went from BRF puck to agar. When that grows out gunna throw it to a new LC and see what happens. I put my existing culture to a BRF puck though and all it’s done is overlay! I need those fuckin snakes :grin:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: SwabMarley] * 1
    #27722044 - 04/05/22 11:56 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

After 6 months and swiping about 15 plates from a vendor print, I got some mycelium on one plate. I needed to increase the temp of the plate in order to get it to germinate as well. My temps are 65-68 and it seems like nats need about 70 for germination.

I did this by keeping it on top of one of the 36" LED light bars for a few days.



From this, I made some transfers and grew out some tubs in a variety of conditions. The best one was a shoebox just on the shelf and it looked like this:


There is one fruit missing from that pic, which I printed.


The rest overlaid and eventually went green. There was I think one more tub that had a few pins.


I swabbed a fruit as well and swiped some agar, and got no growth for 7 days, so once again used the LED light bar trick and saw germination 4 hours later.

I am thinking now that I'm working with fresh spores, I will have some stronger cultures to move forward with.

I am wondering if my temps are too low, and they'd do better in the pans chamber.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn] * 2
    #27722161 - 04/05/22 02:46 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Holy crap!
To those that haven't grown nats out yet- they will test your patience, but it does get better.
I didn't know what the hell was going on for a while, but thanks to this thread I bare knuckled it and held on.

Spawned 3/17 (4 qts spawn, 650-700grams coir, 3 qts verm, 4.25 qts water)...prbly colonized in about a week. 
Then just sat there making me anxious like I was having my first grow ever again. It was kind of rad...but only because pins showed up yesterday :awesomenod:

First sign of pins after looking like this and not budging for 2.5 weeks

30 hours later (today)...:loveeyes:
:letsgo:

Now I'm just excited to see where these land besides my friggin mouth:dancingshroom:


Edited by Mycelium Juice (04/05/22 02:59 PM)


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Mycelium Juice] * 1
    #27722198 - 04/05/22 03:25 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Perfect man. I bet they’ll be super strong after taking that long to pin.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #27722253 - 04/05/22 04:14 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

hi. this thread is so long .. cant read it all right now.. today i finally put some natalensis 'zulu' spores that i received gratefully in return for a joke to agar.
fingers crossed.
as for choice of substrate/grain/supplements/temps/etc .. anything to be aware of particularly?
now that my PC arrived so many possibilities. whole oats would have been my choice..


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: chris77] * 1
    #27722262 - 04/05/22 04:26 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Moopers posted a rad collection of nat details you might find helpful


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: bridge2far]
    #27722265 - 04/05/22 04:29 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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bridge2far said:
Moopers posted a rad collection of nat details you might find helpful



thank you!!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: bridge2far]
    #27722345 - 04/05/22 05:40 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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bridge2far said:
Moopers posted a rad collection of nat details you might find helpful



Awesome! ' Just what I was looking for! :cool:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Mycelium Juice] * 1
    #27722578 - 04/05/22 08:50 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Mycelium Juice said:
Holy crap!
To those that haven't grown nats out yet- they will test your patience, but it does get better.
I didn't know what the hell was going on for a while, but thanks to this thread I bare knuckled it and held on.

Spawned 3/17 (4 qts spawn, 650-700grams coir, 3 qts verm, 4.25 qts water)...prbly colonized in about a week. 
Then just sat there making me anxious like I was having my first grow ever again. It was kind of rad...but only because pins showed up yesterday :awesomenod:

First sign of pins after looking like this and not budging for 2.5 weeks

30 hours later (today)...:loveeyes:
:letsgo:

Now I'm just excited to see where these land besides my friggin mouth:dancingshroom:




The sight of those first pins poking through is always exciting! That’s awesome man! My main tub is 1 day behind yours!  Same spawn/sub but straight coir.  If my test grow is any indication, I got 3-4 more days before pins show.  It’s exciting having similar grows to compare and share!  Keep posting up! 



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: RiseOMorpheus] * 3
    #27722828 - 04/06/22 04:07 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

My final tub finally fruited, and I actually got a good flush off of it. Fruits were much thicker than normal, still blue like the rest, but holy hell I think i pulled like 2oz dry off the first flush lol. That tub also had the highest coir ratio. I think that might helpful?

Also had more 'root fruits'. This one was super dense root. Felt like cutting into a sclerotia.

nats are <3 the best



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DarkPinus] * 2
    #27723780 - 04/06/22 07:59 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

That nat grew a dick in its own butt :rofl:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: rhizoRider] * 3
    #27724346 - 04/07/22 09:13 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Easily the longest plate pin I've grown.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27725245 - 04/08/22 05:05 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

they slowly come out



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: labbar]
    #27725378 - 04/08/22 08:17 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Wow that actually looks like overlay. Is this species known for overlay?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #27725420 - 04/08/22 08:59 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Some cultures are incredibly bad for overlay and other cultures have no overlay at all.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27725497 - 04/08/22 10:10 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Good to know, thanks!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #27725516 - 04/08/22 10:31 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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DERRAYLD said:
Some cultures are incredibly bad for overlay and other cultures have no overlay at all.



Is it purely genetic or does it make a difference if you use tomentose/rhizomorphic mycelium? I've heard many people weren't even able to get tomentose Nats to fruit.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Pastywhyte] * 3
    #27725521 - 04/08/22 10:36 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)



Clone tub, 2 quarts millet spawn to 8 quarts coir plus 2cm top layer of coir.

Lots of side pins but a fair amount in the center. Overlay stayed short on this one, maybe 3mm.

I need to harvest soon because nats drop spores fast and heavy IME. The caps were closed last night. It's morning, and if I wait until evening to harvest, spores will blacken caps.

I don't know if it's my genetics or because I increase FAE a lot during early part of fruiting (lid on a the diagonal, or mist and fan twice a day), but even when tubs overlay badly (like 1.5 to 2 inches in some places), spaghetti pheno doesn't appear in my grows. This is only my fifth tub, though.


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