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Correct, the ones I have grown so far have been mild but they were all F1 and now I'm working on F2 and clones of F1 to see if they are any stronger. They still work well, you just have to take more than you normally would for the same effect.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hindsight] 5
#27585055 - 12/17/21 03:39 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Found some outside in my garden

-- thats in centimeters btw.
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smalltalk_canceled said: Oh wow, this thing is a natalensis too!
NPE incoming!

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This is Natal Super Strain, Craziest mycelium I’ve seen so far out of 7 varieties I’ve grown. I inoculated brown rice with syringe, and G2G to popcorn. this is the cleanest popcorn jar I’ve had as well, with barely any grains not covered with mycelium. Should I scrape some of those runaway mycelium off and culture them?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MycoWeek] 4
#27586904 - 12/19/21 04:15 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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That crazy rhizomorphic mycelium is not that uncommon with Natalensis. There is no harm in scraping some off and transferring it to agar. However, the chances that you’d preserve / isolate something unique are low IMHO. I think your time and energy would be better invested in getting that beautiful mycelium onto substrate and searching for promising phenotypes to clone… My 2 cents 😊
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Quote:
PsiloPsychIn said: That crazy rhizomorphic mycelium is not that uncommon with Natalensis. There is no harm in scraping some off and transferring it to agar. However, the chances that you’d preserve / isolate something unique are low IMHO. I think your time and energy would be better invested in getting that beautiful mycelium onto substrate and searching for promising phenotypes to clone… My 2 cents 😊
my syringe is suppose to be Natal Super Strain cubensis, but from the way the mycelium looks, which is pretty unique, it looks like Natalensis, where there are a lot of small circular rhizomorphic growth through out the jar. Are these sometime mislabeled? I read through pretty much the whole thread, but couldn't find a definitive answer.
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smalltalk_canceled said: Oh wow, this thing is a natalensis too!
NPE incoming!

is this tub cased with straight vermiculite?
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MycoWeek] 2
#27587057 - 12/19/21 09:12 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Go back to pg 159 and look at Alan Rockefeller’s posts and the subsequent discussion. There was confusion about the two, but the consensus is that NSS and Natalensis are the same thing, though closely related to cubes.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MojaveMyc]
#27587783 - 12/19/21 09:03 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bottom of the streak Nat germination On recommendation, letting it go another day or so before I transfer
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MojaveMyc]
#27587803 - 12/19/21 09:37 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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MojaveMyc said: Go back to pg 159 and look at Alan Rockefeller’s posts and the subsequent discussion. There was confusion about the two, but the consensus is that NSS and Natalensis are the same thing, though closely related to cubes.
Thanks. I asked the 3rd poster of the thread to update his post so hopefully anyone reading this thread can go to the meaty part directly.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MycoWeek] 2
#27588241 - 12/20/21 12:15 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey Nats crew,
I wanted to share an observation that might be helpful to some - we can add heat tolerance to their list of awesome characteristics
I've been a bit quiet the last month or so, life got in the way, and my shed got cold.
I have a neglected tub that is living in 30f (night) and 50-60f (day) temps, and it's fruiting normally.
A little slower, but the lack of heat doesn't seem to have bothered it materially. I was previously growing them at close to constant 80f.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: bagga] 1
#27588264 - 12/20/21 12:29 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good to know bagga. Would love to be able to grow these in tubs outside of my grow room to save space in there.
I've made it to spawn jars. One of five has contaminated with some sort of green mold, quite early too - this jar is only 6 days old. Must have been contaminated during my inoculation due to technique because I'm confident the plate was contam-free. I'm not going to shake that jar and will just watch it and see if this Nat culture truly can "eat mold" as some have claimed.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hindsight] 7
#27588291 - 12/20/21 12:54 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think people in this thread would be interested in my new DNA sequence result - the culture going around as Psilocybe pseudoaztecorum is really Psilocybe chuxgionensis, and it's closely related to cubensis, but not as close as P. natalensis.
Psilocybe pseudoaztecorum was published first and if the names are synonymous that would be the correct name - however I'll need to do microscopy on a fruit to determine if P. pseudoaztecorum is really something else.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MycoWeek] 1
#27588495 - 12/20/21 03:58 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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MycoWeek said:
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smalltalk_canceled said: Oh wow, this thing is a natalensis too!
NPE incoming!

is this tub cased with straight vermiculite?
Verm, gypsum, coir, grain, with thick coir/verm top layer
End result 
Culture produced mass snakes, and three huge "pe" boys
All hollow
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MycoWeek
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I am curious if that PE looking thing is much stronger compare to other normal looking fruits. This tub would be a good candidate to get one of those potency test kit, and test out 2 samples from the tub.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MycoWeek]
#27588533 - 12/20/21 04:19 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's hollow sadly, explains the weight.
Won't that carry over?
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smalltalk_canceled said: It's hollow sadly, explains the weight.
Won't that carry over?
Not too sure, but I am going to say yes, most likely that trait will carry over if you cloned it. But I think even it’s hollow, still worth it to be able to grow a full tub of that monster.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MycoWeek]
#27589610 - 12/21/21 03:14 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’ve seen people saying their tub fully colonized in 4 days, which seems unachievable to me without obtaining a serious culture first , but this MSS Natalensis culture is about to pull it off. Leap off from grain to sub in 48hrs days is defined as excellent speed by Stament’s TMC, this culture ate through half the sub in that time frame at 1:2 spawn to sub ratio.
Original spawn was MSS to brown rice, G2G to 2qt or popcorn, and 1qt of brown rice.
Substrate and top layer is P9’s compression tek.
Top and bottom pics are 12 hrs apart:
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: MycoWeek] 1
#27589615 - 12/21/21 03:17 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know pseudomonas infection can cause fruits to do that also looking at how wet the substrate is that could be bacterial. Hollow fruits can be a tell. Either way that one is a chunky boy.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Sockadin]
#27589669 - 12/21/21 03:59 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea when they get trapped like that the caps usually suffer, they create too much humidity
Still trying to figure out what makes the tall natalensis fruits go rigid instead of soft-falling over.
Made 13 dishes of this clone, so 4weeks we will see.
Edit: testing high FAE with snakes next time
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Edited by smalltalk_canceled (12/21/21 05:17 PM)
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