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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Failboat] * 2
    #27512342 - 10/21/21 11:11 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I have already set things up to cross them with some of my Golden Teacher mutants.



Maybe it will work.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Zwinst]
    #27512367 - 10/21/21 11:45 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Nice tub! Maybe a homogeneous mix would force crosses better?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Failboat]
    #27512392 - 10/21/21 12:16 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely! But i want so see if this works first. As preparation for other crosses to come. I can´t be 100% sure i will be able to identify crosses, so i want them spatially divided.

If it doesn´t work, i may have to work with clones instead of multispore and mix it all.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Zwinst] * 1
    #27512402 - 10/21/21 12:27 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Doesn't mixing spores onto a plate work best for crossing?

(I really know nothing about crossing but am interested in trying some)


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: TheDoobsker]
    #27512413 - 10/21/21 12:33 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Works better but I remember people just mixing 2 jars of grains, colonized by different strains, in the same substrate and getting results. I have some LCs I could inoculated the same jar and see what happens. Fiji, Melmac, Yeti... Nat, all in one.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #27512417 - 10/21/21 12:35 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Probably not the best ideea since I may get a cube cross without Nats in it...


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #27512429 - 10/21/21 01:05 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Better mixing makes for higher chances, i bet. But that is not what i am aiming for.

I want wo see what happens on the "barrier" between the two mycelia. Thats why there is a ~3cm gap filled with coir between the two.

Seeing them mix easily or not would tell me a lot.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Zwinst]
    #27512438 - 10/21/21 01:11 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Go for yeti/nat :wink:

Yeah I totally agree it will be cool to see. I like the idea. Sometimes I see tubs people put up that are all mixed together and it's hard to tell if there's a cross or not.

Why the coir gap though? I'd think it's just less of a chance you'll get crosses in the middle


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #27512451 - 10/21/21 01:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Could you just inoculate one LC jar with both and attempt to cross them that way?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: TheDoobsker] * 1
    #27512455 - 10/21/21 01:28 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Why the coir gap though? I'd think it's just less of a chance you'll get crosses in the middle




You may be right. My thinking was to increase the surface area of possible crosses showing up.

I have no idea what i am doing.

Just testing ideas.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Zwinst] * 2
    #27512506 - 10/21/21 02:26 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

That natal myc gets around, I bet in a few days it’ll totally cover the GT side anyway.


I’ve had some tubs where the myc got through the liner and a couple fat rhizo fingers went all the way across under the sub.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #27512530 - 10/21/21 02:38 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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That natal myc gets around, I bet in a few days it’ll totally cover the GT side anyway.


I’ve had some tubs where the myc got through the liner and a couple fat rhizo fingers went all the way across under the sub.




Sounds like my kind of mushroom! :grin:

Let´s see what happens here.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a] * 3
    #27512561 - 10/21/21 03:02 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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That natal myc gets around, ...I’ve had some tubs where the myc got through the liner and a couple fat rhizo fingers went all the way across under the sub.




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Quote:

Zwinst said:
I have already set things up to cross them with some of my Golden Teacher mutants.
Maybe it will work.




Or maybe the Nats will just eat the GTs.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Hillbillyjohn] * 3
    #27512683 - 10/21/21 04:56 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Hi all. I put P. natalensis spores to agar the other day after reading through much of this thread and other information I could find.

I decided to compile some of the information I found about growing the species and combine it into a journal, here. It's a collection of quotes from this thread and other sources along with some text from me, organized into topics. I'm hoping these notes will help me and anyone else who wants a consolidated place for information.

Feel free to take a look and comment with anything that you'd correct or add, keeping in mind that I haven't grown this species before, the journal is by no means complete, and I don't intend it to be a tek or authoritative.

That said, I hope it can be useful to others.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Moopers]
    #27512746 - 10/21/21 06:08 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Moopers said:

I decided to compile some of the information I found about growing the species and combine it into a journal, here.





Reading, and bookmarked. Thank you.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nektar61]
    #27512931 - 10/21/21 09:13 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Nice! I also bookmarked, thanks for sharing...


Set up this 66qt purple latch unmodified on 10/1



And this faht style 16qt on 10/7




Very different looking surface, and the 16qt showing pins already. I didn't expect the unmodified 66qt to do great because I think these like lots of fae? hoping all of those knots turn into pins


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: TheDoobsker] * 4
    #27513131 - 10/22/21 02:20 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I don’t think you need to cross with melmac for girth.
The Natalensis has some girth genes hiding in there somewhere and I think I’m starting to find them:



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Zwinst]
    #27513167 - 10/22/21 04:15 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Zwinst said:
I have already set things up to cross them with some of my Golden Teacher mutants.



Maybe it will work.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Eugene Gesuale] * 2
    #27513224 - 10/22/21 05:56 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Natalie got booty



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Guerrilla]
    #27513286 - 10/22/21 07:24 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I woke up to find this little chode this morning. I am so happy, was thinking I'd never see anything from the cake.

It's not much compared to they great grows I see on here but I gotta start somewhere.

Thanks A.k.a for the advice given earlier in the thread:mushroom2:



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