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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: nektar61]
#27510752 - 10/19/21 11:17 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spawn to sub ratio 1 to 4. I use pasteurized straw/manure,50/50 as substrate and a top layer of 2cm coir.
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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu] 6
#27510755 - 10/19/21 11:22 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ladies and Gents For your entertainment tonight I present to you …
THE NATALWAVE!


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I like to imagine a loud wave sound as it laps at the beach... woosh!
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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27510781 - 10/20/21 12:24 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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nosf3r4tu said: Spawn to sub ratio 1 to 4. I use pasteurized straw/manure,50/50 as substrate and a top layer of 2cm coir.
Thank you.
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Lol yeah that’s the real deal for sure.
Next step it’ll go blue and start squeezing out from under the cling.
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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: A.k.a] 2
#27511505 - 10/20/21 03:55 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Let me out...!

Finally going to spawn some this weekend. After playing with the sleepy ape family tree the last few months, I'm excited to get these lively mofos into a tub 🥳
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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: bagga]
#27511576 - 10/20/21 04:47 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you just pour those like regular plates?
That bottom one looks like all my cultures that grew thick mats of overlay, just thick rhizo all over.
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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27511745 - 10/20/21 07:49 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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They're all 2% LME.
I made a ~10 ms cups, these are the most interesting tho. Seems like growth behavior split between hyper myc and modest myc and good fruit.
The couple that have crazy myc either have little abort-like pins, or none at all, while slower myc plates have mature fruit. They're all same age.
I feel a little regret as I selected the aggressive myc to put to grain. In hindsight, I've probably selected for max overlay
That bottom one is actually getting out of the cup- I assumed they had an air tight seal, but natalensis can confirm there's a small air gap between the lid and the room 🤣
It hasn't thinkened into those weird myc structures yet, still just myc.
Heres a 16oz grain starter thats a little older, full of myc structures but not pins.
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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: bagga] 1
#27511752 - 10/20/21 07:57 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is it just my experience or are these easier to grow than cubes? From print to agar I have never had to go too many transfers in before it is healthy enough to be sent to grain. Granted this is only the second time I have started from spores with this species but they were some of my most successful inoculations when I was first getting into this hobby.
Anyone else had similar experiences?
Maybe I just really fortunate between the quality of the prints or my technique... I also feel like the mycelium may grow more aggressively than others.
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Same experience here. Feels like they grow by themselves. I started them on Agar and used the inoculation plate on grains, then cloned a cluster and that's it. This is how that clone performed
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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27511940 - 10/21/21 12:28 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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nosf3r4tu said: Same experience here. Feels like they grow by themselves. I started them on Agar and used the inoculation plate on grains, then cloned a cluster and that's it. This is how that clone performed

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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27511962 - 10/21/21 01:18 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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nosf3r4tu said: Same experience here. Feels like they grow by themselves.
I predict that in two years, a lot of the commercial spore sellers will have the P-Nat up front, and the Cube spores in the "exotics" section. (only half kidding). -- So I asked A-Rock:
"Is there harmane / harmaline in P-Nat? Can you test for that?"
His reply confirmed what has been said here:
From: Alan Rockefeller
"I don't have the equipment to test for it, but it's certainly possible to test for it.
"It's been tested in Psilocybe cubensis, and it was found that the mycelium had quite a bit of MAOI in it, but the fruits almost none.
Since P. natalensis is so close to cubensis, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't similar."
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Re: Psilocybe Natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu] 1
#27511983 - 10/21/21 02:21 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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nosf3r4tu said:

Fuck a duck... 
Man I just had to stop in to say that I just keep getting bit by these things. I have taken. .5g/1g or so last two days and so I thought I'd eat .6 of nats today (about my favorite daytime dose of them when I'm regularly macrodosing and want a little extra pep. Shiiiiit... I had to tear out and re-insulate my living room tonight and shit was haywire. I was getting unreasonably strong visuals (which I rarely do at all with nata unless I I dose like 2.5g+ or so). Insulation in a poorly lit, high contrast room while tripping is a fucking nightmare lol.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nektar61]
#27512060 - 10/21/21 05:10 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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nektar61 said:
"Is there harmane / harmaline in P-Nat? Can you test for that?"
I'd really like to know, I don't want to take harmane or harmaline if I can help it.
So whats the big deal with harmaloids insinuating it could be harmful?...
Many people take it with mushrooms aka Psilohuasca and report it to be far better and fuller experience than just shrooms alone.. after trying it, some say any other way is a waste and now only do it that way.
I recall a member here taking high dose hamalas daily over many months and saying many of the food contradictions are irrelevant and maintaining a MAOI specific diet unnessesary.
What about DMT... where would ayahuasca or pharmahuasca or changa be without harmaloids or MAOIs
The main risk for serotonin syndrome would be taking it with stimulants like MDMA
If natalensis were proven to have a MAOI, thats more of a selling point IMO
At any rate the natalensis you are all growing sure are nice looking, and combined with a unique effect. I hope one day to try them out.
Keep up the good work and keep pushing that envelope everyone
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: UnderNose]
#27512113 - 10/21/21 06:41 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some moldy and bacterial Ms shoeboxes that still manages to pin, given time:



The overlay with these - is it actually helping fruiting?
The myc beats mold pipedream seems less sketchy than ever with natalensis.
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It does kinda seem like sometimes the overlay protects the pins until they grow through it. I guess it makes sense between creating a micro climate and keeping bugs away. But I also doubt you’d see overlay like that in the wild so 
Lol Alaska poorly lit and high contrast is the perfect recipe for visuals.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27512264 - 10/21/21 09:45 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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They're from grassy areas near a river bed or something right? I could see the heavy overlay being growth up the grasses giving itself a nice microclimate to fruit in the wild. Would look like some mush popping up, but look all the way down and you might see more. Just a theory.
I should sew some growth on my T1 plates, should have taken them a day or two earlier cause there's some sort of funk on the germ plates. Mycoparasite type matted uglyness.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
#27512267 - 10/21/21 09:46 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think the mycelium is so agressive, because they grow in a overall more dry environment and have to move quickly when water is available. Growing first, asking questions later.
This may be a nice trait to combine with cubensis strains, that are used to colder climates like tasmanian or even some like B+. I had B+ in my cellar at around 12-14°C years ago and they didn´t mind. Just grew a bit slower. Btw. i had no success at all outdoors with Golden Teacher and John Allen this year. Even though it was a very wet year. Just not warm enough i guess. Or something else went wrong.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Zwinst] 1
#27512302 - 10/21/21 10:25 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cube / nat strains here we go
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Once I get a fruiting culture I will try to hybridize with Melmac. Need some girthy genes mixed in.
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