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Oh yeah it bruises worse than the fruits with mine.
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How is the potency of P-Nat? (P-Nat should be a rap name).
Is is more powerful in general than average cubes? PE cubes?
I know, it's not all about potency, but I'm curious since I have some growing and don't want to take 3 grams of something that's like PE.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nektar61] 1
#27496586 - 10/07/21 07:35 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you back through this thread I would say there are more users saying the experience was stronger than average/less potent to cubes. My personal anecdote is I gave Ape and Natalensis to a friend and they felt the 2 to be comparable. Took a lot less of the Natalensis as well.
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I took 2,5 and 2,8 dry grams and it sent me to the moon on both cases. I'd say they are stronger than a "standard" cube. Don't know about PE varieties (never had them).
Edit: those doses also sent two of my friends to the moon as well so it was not just me
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I’ve had a couple of weak grows, but most of mine have been comparable APE when dry. Eaten fresh they’re significantly stronger than any cube I’ve tried.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nektar61]
#27496925 - 10/08/21 05:00 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wrote a report one or two pages back on 1.35g. It was a very good dose and I usually take around 4 g standard cubes. The trip was much better quality than standard cubes though. I feel like I could have taken more since they are so friendly and uplifting. Never tried the PE variants, but will soon
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: odissey]
#27497000 - 10/08/21 06:35 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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odissey said: I wrote a report one or two pages back on 1.35g. It was a very good dose and I usually take around 4 g standard cubes
You mean the one where you also smoked hash and DMT? lol.
I know that drug effects in humans are highly subjective and not "scientific", but I think that your additional powerful co-drugs wrecked any ability to tell what the shrooms alone are like.
I appreciate the several comments above yours about relative strength of this species.
I'm smiling as I say this. Not mad. And I like reading some of what you write on here.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nektar61] 2
#27497216 - 10/08/21 10:11 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi Fellow Natalensis Fans Re potency, I’ve never eaten any (gotta change that), but people who have eaten mine say they are much more potent than the average cube.
Re most recent grow… as we all know these guys are shape shifters. I’ve only worked with one or two cultures since I got lucky with one of my first cultures being a pretty good fruiter. That culture puts out a variety of phenotypes but generally 4-6 inches tall with a fairly small cap. I had something quite different on the second flush of a tub this time around. I got a bunch of very short fat fruits. They were shaped like APE or the squat variety of ksss. I’ve cloned them and hope I can get a line that consistently puts out that shape. You can see a few of them in these pictures. If you see some nasty looking caps it is because I’ve been having some issues with bacterial blotch….
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Wow I haven't seen squats like that before, interesting.
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Natal PE ontw! Nice one
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Interesting! I wonder if it's said bacteria causing it. If not, it'd be cool to try and isolate some of those. Particularly liking the squat APE style.
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PsiloPsychIn said: Hi Fellow Natalensis Fans ...people who have eaten mine say they are much more potent than the average cube....
Ok. Let's review P-Nat are:
--Way stronger than cubes. --Super aggressive, unstoppable mycleium that uses contam as food. --Grow fast. --Look amazing.
I predict here and now that in 3 years people are going to be saying "You still grow Cubes? Shit man....You probably use syringes to knock grain and do PF tek too, you caveman!"
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nektar61] 2
#27497880 - 10/08/21 08:18 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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nektar61 said:
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PsiloPsychIn said: Hi Fellow Natalensis Fans ...people who have eaten mine say they are much more potent than the average cube....
Ok. Let's review P-Nat are:
--Way stronger than cubes. --Super aggressive, unstoppable mycleium that uses contam as food. --Grow fast. --Look amazing.
I predict here and now that in 3 years people are going to be saying "You still grow Cubes? Shit man....You probably use syringes to knock grain and do PF tek too, you caveman!"
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Crackatoa] 1
#27498011 - 10/08/21 10:35 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Crackatoa said:
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nektar61 said:
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PsiloPsychIn said: Hi Fellow Natalensis Fans ...people who have eaten mine say they are much more potent than the average cube....
Ok. Let's review P-Nat are:
--Way stronger than cubes. --Super aggressive, unstoppable mycleium that uses contam as food. --Grow fast. --Look amazing.
I predict here and now that in 3 years people are going to be saying "You still grow Cubes? Shit man....You probably use syringes to knock grain and do PF tek too, you caveman!"
That's Wall.E's plan 
Not to mention the trip is like an easy cube trip. You can be balls deep into nats and still have an enjoyable time if you’ve ever had a bad trip from cubes
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Wall.E]
#27498022 - 10/08/21 10:43 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cubes give me the life and death talk and a heavy mental emotional therapy session for the first couple hours. A bit heavy. Puking out the universe as it scolds me for my issues and tells me it'll be ok. Heavy stuff those cubes. Can't wait to get the chance to eat a pile of nats.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Nichrome]
#27498052 - 10/08/21 11:21 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nichrome said: Can't wait to get the chance to eat a pile of nats.
Even though I'm calling them P-Nat, I misread this in my head as "eat a pile of gnats." yikes!
I've been reading about fungus gnats on here today. I found a couple on an uncolonized part of an otherwise colonized cube grow yesterday, I literally killed it with fire; I hit that part of the sub for about 1.5 seconds with a butane torch. They haven't been back.
Ok, so in our current game of telephone:
Psilocybe natalensis: --Are stronger than cubes. --Have super aggressive, unstoppable mycelium that uses contam as food. --Grow fast. --Look amazing. --Sometimes overlay, but you can make that into yummy active tea. --Fewer bad trips.
So after my PE6 pins grow out to shrooms, if I eat them and have closed-eye hallucinations of gnats, I'll make my next trip P-Nats and wash that all away from my mind.
Oh, so how's the dry weight average yield per shoebox? More than cubes? That would look nice on our list. ha ha.
It would be funny if ten of us started using the list as a sig line all at the same time.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nektar61] 1
#27498129 - 10/09/21 01:55 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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nektar61 said: I predict here and now that in 3 years people are going to be saying "You still grow Cubes? Shit man....You probably use syringes to knock grain and do PF tek too, you caveman!"
Hold your horses cowboy. There are over 200 species of active fungi out there. Don't start acting like all the people out there who think that cubes are THE Magic mushroom. Like cubes, nats are just one of them. And they're definetly not the strongest or the nicest of them all.
PS : There's nothing wrong with PF Tek or MSS. They're just tools.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
#27498140 - 10/09/21 02:33 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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Totally agree with you nosf3r4tu, also possibly some cavemen foraged & ate more wild actives than we grown & ate..
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: V.L] 1
#27498284 - 10/09/21 07:46 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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V.L said: Totally agree with you nosf3r4tu, also possibly some cavemen foraged & ate more wild actives than we grown & ate..
Well, this here stoned ape was half-kidding. Half.
Oh, I asked Alan Rockefeller if P. nat is in fact a separate species from P. cube (I am convinced it is, but some people doubt it), he said: -===========
Yes that's correct, it's not a cube. It is more closely related to cubes than any other sequenced species.
It has a consistent 6 nucleotide difference with all of the cube sequences.
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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: V.L] 4
#27498288 - 10/09/21 07:55 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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My last trip with Nats was not particularly good tbh. 2.8 g dry at a remote forest/beach with two friends. I honestly felt what might be like being a dementia patient. Very fragmented and incomplete recall of my life, confusion, and a bit of persistent anxiety about the whole thing. I wouldn't call it a bad trip because I didn't panic at all and had a really pleasant afterglow, but it was definitely not just fun and games. I think a first-timer might have been scared shitless lol
I do agree that they feel substantially different from cubes, though it's hard for me to pinpoint or describe what makes them special. So far they've produced less 'insightful' trips than cubes, but that might just have to do with where I am in life right now. Perhaps I should start tripping a bit less until I feel like I'm actually learning stuff from consuming these shrooms. 
Growing these guys is definitely fun tho and the extremely aggressive behavior of the myc might be much better for new growers.
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