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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jomanda1990]
    #27398257 - 07/22/21 04:59 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I have a rice jar going on 2 months. No signs of stones or anything forming. I also have some rice cups that went till they turned blue and its just a mix of overlay and not so much overlay producing.

Also, I am very curious how people are getting such large fruits. I'm thinking about building a grow tent if it turns out they just need the insane amount of airflow. I didn't isolate beyond clean up as I wanted the diversity, but all three bins are putting out pinky sized fruits. Interestingly the one putting out the stronger overlay is producing much more once I went from flipped lids to lids turned 90 degrees. I'm definitely not going to keep moisture levels up long that way, but it's at least pinning this time.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: LookingLurker]
    #27398273 - 07/22/21 05:12 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I have about 10 whole brown rice jars that I recently inoculated with Natalensis LC (from MS to agar to LC).
They are colonizing quite rapidly. I'll keep ya updated if I see anything resembling sclerotia. I added a bit of gypsum when boiling the rice during prep. 

I do hope Natalensis sclerotia is a real thing. It would make this species even more amazing than it already is. :crazy2:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jomanda1990]
    #27398340 - 07/22/21 06:13 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I only ran one tray in Pan conditions and they didn’t like the high humidity


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Wall.E]
    #27398531 - 07/22/21 09:20 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

I'm running a brf cake test cup to see what it does myself, but it's mainly just to pass the time until my master grain jar colonizes.

One of the guys over on the discord used a slightly dryer mix of substrate and said his behaved just like a cube when he ran a tub. I'm gonna give his recipe a shot.

1 brick eco earth
4qts verm
1 gallon of water

Around 1 inch casing of the CV applied at spawn.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Lostkeys] * 1
    #27398638 - 07/22/21 11:24 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)


Just nocced 9 masters with 3 plates just like this. Should make 30 bags or so. Oughta be a nice first Nat run :lol:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Failboat]
    #27401993 - 07/25/21 06:51 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone got a print they can shoot me? I ended up giving away all my swabs doing giveaways. I can trade as well too! :pm:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27402264 - 07/25/21 11:32 PM (2 years, 6 months ago)



Gonna be joining the party soon (T1 transfer, amazingly). :yess:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27402466 - 07/26/21 07:53 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

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Anyone got a print they can shoot me? I ended up giving away all my swabs doing giveaways. I can trade as well too! :pm:




Man I'd send you 10 but I'm still at the colonizing jars stage. :frown:

FWIW the whole brown rice jars inocc'd with LC are doing OK. Some are almost fully colonized after 9 days. No signs of stones.
What I did notice is that the myc bruises easily with shaking. I thought I was seeing trich and blue contams but it was just bruising. Anyone had a similar experience with these?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jomanda1990]
    #27402693 - 07/26/21 11:06 AM (2 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah. The bruising is normal.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #27403456 - 07/26/21 09:27 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

One of the overlay tubs put out 2 demented pins on its 4th flush (I assume bacteria although the tub looks ok otherwise). They matured fine despite the wonkiness. I admit I normally would have harvested this morning before work but I wanted to see if they'd put on more weight.



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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: mboehm]
    #27403570 - 07/26/21 10:24 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I have a hypothesis that these are just extremely difficult to stabilize. I think its all about the genetics but once you get something sweet they Peter out. No reason why we shouldn't be pumping out canopies consistently by now with everyone experimenting. I've had a few canopies but clones eventually got shitty.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #27403593 - 07/26/21 10:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone got a print they can shoot me? I ended up giving away all my swabs doing giveaways. I can trade as well too! :pm:




I just harvested the first flush, but I could take some prints for you next flush. I am based in South Africa though, so it might take a while for you to receive it. If that's fine shoot me your address.


Edit: What a monster mboehm!


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #27403611 - 07/26/21 10:42 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I have a hypothesis that these are just extremely difficult to stabilize. I think its all about the genetics but once you get something sweet they Peter out. No reason why we shouldn't be pumping out canopies consistently by now with everyone experimenting. I've had a few canopies but clones eventually got shitty.



That reminds me of what Rich Gee (R.? Gutierrez) recently said he did to create penis envy. When the clones started to senesce, he'd go back to a recent spore print. I gather he grew and cloned and grew and cloned to isolate the strains he liked (which ones bruised bluest and looked healthy), and made prints at some point before the strain senesced. And repeated for many years.

Unrelated: does this species form beads of moisture toward the end of colonization like cubes do? Does it benefit from misting? I gave my tubs more FAE than I give cubes, and I'm wondering if I went overboard.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
    #27403658 - 07/26/21 11:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I'm gonna save the strain as is and go to grain, then case some grain and also go bulk 1:4, 1:8 on others, in case they do that lean thing I've seen reported.  All with ample FAE.  :cookiemonster:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #27403982 - 07/27/21 08:29 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)



Anyone for cake


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27403986 - 07/27/21 08:33 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Also found what I believe to be natalensis sclerotia today.
It was entirely white, hardened, and became even harder harder post dry.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Fridgedoor]
    #27403996 - 07/27/21 08:46 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I have a hypothesis that these are just extremely difficult to stabilize. I think its all about the genetics but once you get something sweet they Peter out. No reason why we shouldn't be pumping out canopies consistently by now with everyone experimenting. I've had a few canopies but clones eventually got shitty.



Curious what you mean? Like, you fruited the clone and got a nice canopy but then tried again with the same culture and didn't? Or the clones never performed as well as the og tub?

My cultures have all done quite well so I guess my source genetics were pretty bangin. The phenotype appears stable; the only significant difference between them seems to be presence or absence of overlay which in my case did not affect yields much.

I slanted them before going to grain so my masters are only 1 or 2 transfers from the T0. Hopefully I won't have to worry about senescence. If I was real serious about stabilizing I'd prolly be working the spores anyway. I'd expect the genetics are more heterozygous than the average cube but have to imagine these are at least F4 from wild at a minimum so likely fairly stable already.

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What a monster mboehm!



Thanks! I don't think I'll be able to top these for some time.

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Anyone for cake



Damn! That is some thicc overlay. Have you seen that company making myco-bacon? I bet you could do the same thing with this stuff. Wonder how it would taste fried up 🤣


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27403999 - 07/27/21 08:49 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

There's so much to figure out for this species :eek:
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Also found what I believe to be natalensis sclerotia today.
It was entirely white, hardened, and became even harder harder post dry.




sweet! Can you elaborate on the grains or any other parameter in the grow that produced the sclerotia? Some people were saying it seemed to only happen in rice but IDK if that's possible.

Also, will you consume the overlay? Please let us know of the potency if you do


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: jomanda1990]
    #27404021 - 07/27/21 09:09 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Already have a test subject ready!

My nats put put huge blobs, max overlay, creeps up walls.

But it's hard to distinguish this from just poor culture/Bacteria

For grains, they colonize corn very fast, they also like sunflower seeds, they grow slow on half dry rye, probably prep error




Good examples of what I'm seeing
Hurting yields pretty bad

Casing attempted:

- Sand
- coir
- verm
- heavy lime casing (least blobbing)


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
    #27404247 - 07/27/21 12:05 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I had a few plates I let sit past due get that cloudy lumpy growth.


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