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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Sockadin]
    #27319928 - 05/23/21 12:37 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)



5 days in, what do you dudes make of those rhizos? Do they start poking through the top layer like this and then do weird shit or "overlay"?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Josex]
    #27319955 - 05/23/21 01:03 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

That’s what mine looked like before overlaying. But I have a tomentose tub just poking through now and I’m stoked to see if it performs different


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Sockadin] * 1
    #27319963 - 05/23/21 01:12 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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That is interesting. This is a peat/Verm casing but all it did was add more moisture retention to the tub. What do now?



You could try adding some poting soil or any kind od soil on it. Just a few mm.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Josex] * 2
    #27319975 - 05/23/21 01:16 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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5 days in, what do you dudes make of those rhizos? Do they start poking through the top layer like this and then do weird shit or "overlay"?



Yeap. Soon the rizo myc will start to fan out and turn into a white mat. When the whole top is covered with a thick mass of myc I add a top layer of poting soil and 3 days later pins start to form.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu]
    #27319979 - 05/23/21 01:19 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Did you pasteurize that potting soil?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27319980 - 05/23/21 01:19 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I think the poting soil, being non nutritious and filed with other microorganisms, gives the signal that the feast is over and it's time to fruit.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27319983 - 05/23/21 01:20 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

No. Strait from the bag. I also got some weeds germinating from it.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: nosf3r4tu] * 1
    #27320012 - 05/23/21 01:50 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah usually with mine the rhizo fingers start swelling up like marshmallows near full colonization.


Then you gotta wait and see if it pins or not.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #27320291 - 05/23/21 05:43 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Does it ever not pin AKA? This one completely ate the Peat and Verm casing. And now it looks like it might eat the tub too. At this point I might have to through a batch of HWFP on it.

I don't have any potting soil because, Im lazy and don't need it to fruit, just excited it is doing weird shit. I got my Playa pinning next to it so that is where all my attention is going.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Sockadin]
    #27320338 - 05/23/21 06:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I’m experimenting to see if letting it climb through a few inches of coir helps


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Eugene Gesuale] * 1
    #27320451 - 05/23/21 07:40 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Well the first handful of cultures and clones I had all came from the same germ plate, but they all overlayed bad and would just sit forever and then pin on the bottom and sides. The last shoebox I ran from that batch took over two months to pin :uhoh:


When I finally started from spore again I got overlay but then it pinned really well out of it within two weeks.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #27320459 - 05/23/21 07:48 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Damn, mine usually run around 14 days to pin. I don't get the crazy overlay though. Mine Usually stop here and it should start pinning in about 7 more days.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Crackatoa]
    #27320518 - 05/23/21 08:52 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

What’s the potency like on the p cubensis Natal SS?


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: A.k.a]
    #27320539 - 05/23/21 09:21 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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When I finally started from spore again I got overlay but then it pinned really well out of it within two weeks.





That's what just started happening to me with that overlayed box I was asking about in here.  Pins this morning after being close to 2 weeks in its current state.  Look like they are breaking through clouds.  My other box is fruiting all around the edges despite almost zero overlay; several preferring to grow right off the rhizo on the walls of the box.  :neat:


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #27320749 - 05/24/21 02:49 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I got my overlay to pin quicker by flattening the fluff into a myc mat and then punching holes in it with a fork. I think the stress triggered it


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
    #27320762 - 05/24/21 03:20 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Good to know.  Had really considered taking it back to 1999 with a good scraperooski...


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #27320790 - 05/24/21 04:09 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Wild myc needs tamed. Just like breaking in a mustang


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Eugene Gesuale]
    #27320802 - 05/24/21 04:23 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

fyi: so far I have been unable to cross cubensis var. Natal Super Strength with another cubensis, or Psilocybe natalensis with Natal Super Strenght.. not sure if i have already tried hybridizing P. natalensis with a random cube. i could try but i am pretty skeptical.

I thought for a second that i had succeeded but it turned out that a dikaryon was able to creep over the monokaryon it was next to, and start growing on the agar on the other side, lol.
Actually not certain if it went underneath instead. There is a lot i need to verify about all that.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Solipsis]
    #27320818 - 05/24/21 04:55 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

It's because it's a different species, i keep telling you people that but everyone keeps trying. Get some snake venom if you want to cross.


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Re: Psilocybe natalensis [Re: Wall.E]
    #27320821 - 05/24/21 04:59 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I'm still not sure why Natalensis is confused with nss, one is a cubensis and the other is not.


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