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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: psi]
    #26427980 - 01/11/20 12:06 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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I think he's saying that if Iran had the culture and ideology of the US and vice versa, it would be justifiable for Iran to assassinate a US general.



That is exactly what I was saying.  You have very good reading comprehension skills.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: lowbrow]
    #26428002 - 01/11/20 12:17 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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Iran and America are about as polar opposite as we can get.  America also does not currently send militias to attack embassies in neighboring countries.




The Venezuelan embassy in DC was illegally occupied for a month last year by protesters.

The US destroyed the French embassy in Libya. The US destroyed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.

Funny story. In 1993 a group of my friends rented a house that had just come into the market next door to the building which had been the Iraqi embassy (it is again) but they had abandoned it during the gulf war. They decided to rent it because they were geeks and it was totally wired for the internet. Like seriously wired. By the CIA. Which had been using the house to spy on Iraq.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26428012 - 01/11/20 12:25 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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Iran and America are about as polar opposite as we can get.  America also does not currently send militias to attack embassies in neighboring countries.




The Venezuelan embassy in DC was illegally occupied for a month last year by protesters.



Go ahead and say who supported that action.  Be sure to name the protest group too.

Why you thought those two connect, I don’t know.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: lowbrow]
    #26428021 - 01/11/20 12:30 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26428032 - 01/11/20 12:32 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Does the CIA use AOL?


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 1
    #26428039 - 01/11/20 12:38 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

No doubt they did


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26428045 - 01/11/20 12:45 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Hilary be hearin’ nothin’ but “you’ve got mail” all day yaa’ll..:baaaam:


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: lowbrow]
    #26428052 - 01/11/20 12:50 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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.Iran and America are culturally and ideologically seperate, so you would need to reverse those aspects in this mind exercise as well.


Iran and America are about as polar opposite as we can get.  America also does not currently send militias to attack embassies in neighboring countries.  If we were doing that then the attack on our general(in assante’s hypothetical situation) would be as justified as ours on Iran’s.

My argument is that if we reversed hypothetical positions (like in assante’s mind exercise) then all the positions would have to be reversed including ideology and culture.

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Unfortunately the death of the general still makes sense. 




And for that reason, this statement still stands.  This is my opinion, however.




I see.  I was hoping that your clarification would reveal some argument that wasn't nonsense. 
Let's unpack this:

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Iran and America are about as polar opposite as we can get.




Based on what criteria, exactly?  In any event, how does dissimilar ideology and/or culture justify assassinations?

Quote:

America also does not currently send militias to attack embassies in neighboring countries.




hmmm...oddly specific.  I think koods addressed that already so I won't delve deeper other than to say that America does plenty of other aggressive things.

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If we were doing that then the attack on our general(in assante’s hypothetical situation) would be as justified as ours on Iran’s.




Great, at least when the wars start it will be justified.

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Unfortunately the death of the general still makes sense. 




In bizzaroland, maybe.  In the world of not wanting to be entangled in foreign wars it makes absolutely no sense.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Amanita86]
    #26428053 - 01/11/20 12:52 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
    #26428054 - 01/11/20 12:52 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Weird how Shroomery got hella anti-america.... along with becoming slower etc. :sherlock:


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: 1234go]
    #26428059 - 01/11/20 12:56 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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It's not over yet...




I get the feeling you and plenty others want there to be one just so you can feel vindicated though.





Why?  Because I said "it's not over yet?"  I get the feeling you're talkin' outta your ass.




OK sorry, I take that back about you, but I've definitely seen too many people like this.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #26428063 - 01/11/20 12:57 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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Americans



That is so dishonest it’s ridiculous.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_Venezuela,_Washington,_D.C.

Occupation by Code Pink Edit
On April 10, 2019, the group Code Pink began occupying the embassy by invitation from the Maduro government.[6][7] As of May 1, fifty US activists supporting Maduro were occupying the building and the embassy was locked down.[6] Hundreds of supporters of GuaidĂł assembled in front of the embassy on May 1, to hear an address by Carlos Vecchio. There was a clash between pro-Maduro and pro-GuaidĂł protesters. Code Pink alleges that the opposition became violent and cut off food to the embassy, claiming that "the police are doing absolutely nothing".[8] The pro-GuaidĂł protesters were primarily Venezuelan and the pro-Maduro protesters were American.[6] Pro-Maduro occupants held signs outside the embassy saying, "Hands Off Venezuela!" and "No to U.S. coup plots", while pro-GuaidĂł protesters chanted "GuaidĂł" and "Hands off my embassy".[6] On May 8, power was cut to the embassy.[9] On May 11, running water was also cut off by US authorities.[10] On May 16, the four protesters remaining, Kevin Zeese, Margaret Flowers, Adrienne Pine and David Paul, were forcibly removed from the embassy by police.[11]

During 2019 Foro de Sao Paulo, Maduro rewarded Code Pink for their actions.[12]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Pink


Occupation of the Venezuelan embassy in Washington Edit
During the 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis, the US Government broke relations with the Nicolás Maduro administration and recognized Juan Guaidó as the acting president of Venezuela. On 10 April 2019, after the Maduro administration retired his diplomats from the Venezuelan embassy in Washington, US activists from Code Pink received keycards from the diplomats, moved into the building, and secured all entrances with chains and locks as Carlos Vecchio, Guaido's ambassador appointed to the US, tried to gain access to the building. The US government considers the embassy as property of Guaidó's interim government. Clashes in May 2019 between US activists and pro-Guaidó Venezuelan demonstrators resulted in arrests on both sides.[35] US authorities issued an eviction notice on the group on May 14.[36] The last four activists were removed from the embassy by agents from the US State Department's Diplomatic Security Service and the US Secret Service on May 16.[37]

At the end of July 2019, some members of Code Pink that occupied the embassy visited Venezuela during the Foro de SĂŁo Paulo. Maduro posed for pictures with the group and rewarded them with gifts, including a book on SimĂłn BolĂ­var and a replica of Bolivar's sword.[38]

National day of action to withdraw US troops from Iraq Edit


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Dark_Star]
    #26428078 - 01/11/20 01:05 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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I guess Iran needed the strike to save face with their own population.

That would explain the silence on the 737 crash. Prolly shot down in error by Iran’s defense systems. Now the US is waiting to make sure the foul play won’t be proven. Once that becomes clear, they’ll adapt Iran’s official story...
Wouldn’t surprise me none🤷🏻‍♂️




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US officials believe that Iran accidentally shot it down. They also believed that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, justifying the invasion of Iraq. Don’t pat yourself on the back just yet Feldman.

JSB - it’s not just Loph. His post is just one example of the myriad throughout the forums.




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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26428083 - 01/11/20 01:08 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Oh well now that’s just unnecessary.. and quite frankly immature to boot..


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Amanita86]
    #26428110 - 01/11/20 01:23 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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On April 10, 2019, the group Code Pink began occupying the embassy by invitation from the Maduro government.[6][7] As of May 1, fifty US activists supporting Maduro were occupying the building and the embassy was locked down.[6




Like I said.
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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods] * 1
    #26428129 - 01/11/20 01:35 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Lowbrow engaging in top notch gaslighting. I say it’s americans.
Lowbrow says I’m dishonest and posts an article saying it’s americans. Don’t believe what you hear and see said MiniTrue and Donald Trump.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26428185 - 01/11/20 02:01 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

When I was little we had a gas light in front of the house.


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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 1
    #26428190 - 01/11/20 02:08 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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When I was little we had a gas light in front of the house.




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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26428226 - 01/11/20 02:26 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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I see.  I was hoping that your clarification would reveal some argument that wasn't nonsense. 
Let's unpack this:


All hypothetical situations are nonsense arguments.

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Iran and America are about as polar opposite as we can get.



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Based on what criteria, exactly?  In any event,


If you don’t already know this, I can’t help you.
Then again apparently you knew exacly what I was talking about because you answered your question in the next sentence.
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how does dissimilar ideology and/or culture justify assassinations?


If you’re going to try and argue that the assassination wasn’t justified we’re going to have to agree to disagree.
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America also does not currently send militias to attack embassies in neighboring countries.




hmmm...oddly specific.  I think koods addressed that already so I won't delve deeper other than to say that America does plenty of other aggressive things.


No, koods didn’t address that.  You took something that koods said at face value, and that is your problem, not mine.

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If we were doing that then the attack on our general(in assante’s hypothetical situation) would be as justified as ours on Iran’s.




Great, at least when the wars start it will be justified.


What war?  The US has not gone to war as predicted.
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Unfortunately the death of the general still makes sense. 




In bizzaroland, maybe. 


. All hypothetical situations are in bizzaroland.
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In the world of not wanting to be entangled in foreign wars it makes absolutely no sense.


Nobody wants to be in a foreign war.  What this had to do with my explanation of a hypothetical situation, I don’t know.

Well, that was an entirely wasteful interaction,

All you had to do was ask me a clarification on what what I was saying without all the nose-thumbing and I would of happily done so to the best of my ability.

next time try not coming at me with pretentions of arrogance and you won’t recieve them in kind.

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Re: Donald Trump just started a war with Iran. MAGA 🤦‍♂️ [Re: koods]
    #26428238 - 01/11/20 02:31 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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On April 10, 2019, the group Code Pink began occupying the embassy by invitation from the Maduro government.[6][7] As of May 1, fifty US activists supporting Maduro were occupying the building and the embassy was locked down.[6




Like I said.
Americans


Be sure to read the part in bold out loud for everybody to hear.


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