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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup] 3
#26415260 - 01/03/20 10:04 PM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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Oh I meant to show y’all this this morning Here is a perfect example pan aus side by side same iso. The over hydrated grain that gave me thicker difficult to shake apart myc is on the right properly hydrated spawn on left. This is my last tray of the over hydrated spawn
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: Jakeoncid419] 2
#26416691 - 01/04/20 09:16 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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1-4-20
Recovery day 3:

And here's all the jars:

One thing you can see pretty easily in the increased volume in the jars with more water (taller in the jars).
Next I'll be casing these all out for fruiting compare.
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup] 2
#26422138 - 01/07/20 10:37 PM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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1-7-20
Recovery day 6:
Oops, did not get to casing these yet. But looking at them today I'm struck by the extra growth shown by the +50 vs the +20, so here's another pic:
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: Jakeoncid419]
#26422272 - 01/08/20 01:29 AM (4 years, 21 days ago) |
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Quote:
Jakeoncid419 said: Oh I meant to show y’all this this morning Here is a perfect example pan aus side by side same iso. The over hydrated grain that gave me thicker difficult to shake apart myc is on the right properly hydrated spawn on left. This is my last tray of the over hydrated spawn

wow thats a big difference man
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: jcm4620]
#26430395 - 01/12/20 09:56 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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update?
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: murderlabz] 3
#26430464 - 01/12/20 10:51 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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1-12-20
Casing day 2
OK, update - cased the 6 jars out last night and now we wait for pinning. It'll be some amount of time from 10-30 days as this particular PE strain hasn't gone through fruiting yet. I noticed in shaking them up that the +50 jar again smelled the best. I'm holding to the basic idea that organism growth is basic in all this so I'm betting the best performer comes from the midrange with the strongest growth pattern. They were all laid out and cased without adding any water, the casing was ordinary peat mix at good field capacity.
Here's an exciting pic to pass the time:

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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26430467 - 01/12/20 10:54 PM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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cool project
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26430572 - 01/13/20 01:15 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Cool!
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: Fonzino] 1
#26462743 - 01/31/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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OK, so about 3 weeks (20 days) from casing out the grain and they've been in the FC for at least 2 weeks, exposed to FAE for at most a week, and pinning has commenced. Left to right, back to front, +20, +30, +40, +60, +70 cc.

The +50 jar had a spot of mold at the bottom and it wouldn't consolidate so it's toast. I took some grains from the top of it to agar and they look fine, I also used it for G2G without shaking but that didn't work out:

I hope the grain samples fare better as they're going onto fresh grain jars today. If not I'll clone one of the fruits in order to hang onto the strain. I think this variety (6) is overall the most vigorous yet so I have some good expectations.
Of the 5 remaining +40 is showing the best pinning behavior - which may be some data at last!

Now the new wait begins - blobs or fruits?
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26467623 - 02/03/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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And the winner is...both, as usual so far. 
This is the +70 tray. They all are doing pretty much the same thing but the more water they got the further along they are, which makes sense.
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26476079 - 02/08/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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2-8-20
Here's a closeup from a couple days ago:

And onto to where they are now - well, no clear pattern due to hydration amount. All have been misted a list so any initial advantage may be lost. Will be looking at harvest weight to differentiate - but since I lost one tray and the results are inconsistent I think there's either (a) a lot of variation in this strain or (b) contamination to varying degrees. Since the G2G from the +50 jar died with mold I'm guessing the latter. If I propagate this strain it'll be from a clone at this point.
Oh yeah the pic:

That's +20, +30, +40 in the far row and +60, +70 in the bottom row, l-r.
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26476461 - 02/09/20 05:56 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I really like the first one, I would take some clones and repeat the experiment with the same setup and see if there is any improvement
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26476480 - 02/09/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like number 2. Which jar was that? It looks like they will be bigger than tray 1.
(Edit) I'm a +30 fan I guess...
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: Sockadin]
#26477065 - 02/09/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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They're all different, which wasn't supposed to happen, as all the other varieties I've pulled from grain germ spots have acted like isolates. So more work on this one. +40 is coming up with some nice clusters though.
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: eLeSDenes]
#26477077 - 02/09/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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eLeSDenes said: I really like the first one, I would take some clones and repeat the experiment with the same setup and see if there is any improvement
Good idea.
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup] 1
#26479153 - 02/10/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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2-10-20
A couple more days and these are gonna get harvested tonight. I think +30 (center on top) was a good call. 
I'll have the fresh weights later on. Will clone Mr. Massive in +70 because...well...big. And then from that rerun the same experiment.
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26479163 - 02/10/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like +30! Top Right has an interesting one in the far back.. I would love to see that one cloned The skinny stem bulbous head at about 12 o-clock. I wonder if that trait would run out in a clone run.
Very cool Man!
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: Sockadin]
#26479168 - 02/10/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hmm...yeah. I see what you mean, a bobble-head shroom. Need to pour some new plates now.\
I also kind of like the cluster in the same tray at lower left...
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26479272 - 02/10/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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This was very interesting, thank you! Are you going to post the 2nd flush compares?
Can't wait to see a tub full of Mr. Massives!
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Re: Grain hydration (yeah I know it's an amazingly cool topic) [Re: murderlabz]
#26479356 - 02/10/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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2nd flushes - probably not unless they kick something out. These strains have been one flush wonders, which is why I'm working up others starting from different spores. I'm used to getting multiple flushes off of regular cubes so maybe that's just a PE thing.
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