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LOTS of mycelium metabolites
#26411311 - 01/01/20 05:41 PM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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First monotub grow, I read on a thread that this yellow brown liquid is mycelium metabolite fighting bacteria but there’s A LOT!!! I’ve read to leave it alone but some say soak it up. Advice?
There’s also a crack down the center of the colonized substrate. Thoughts?
Thanks!
Edited by slalomHO (01/05/20 03:50 PM)
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: slalomHO]
#26411321 - 01/01/20 05:52 PM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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I dont see any pics but id guess its a moisture issue.
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26417812 - 01/05/20 03:57 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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Theres a link at the top of the post with a photo that I uploaded, I don't know how to post the picture directly in the post. I spoke with the company where I bought the bulk casing they said the metabolites are probably from lack of FAE (too much polyfil) and the crack is probably from too much heat. I had the tub on a heating pad i think it evaporated the moisture in the casing too quickly and condensation built up on the surface of the substrate. They told me to spray the surface with peroxide and add a layer of moist vermiculite. So, Im hoping that fixes it and it starts pinning but it might be too late if i torched the substrate.
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: slalomHO]
#26417819 - 01/05/20 04:00 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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I wouldnt use a heating pad. I incubate at room temp which is between 70-72f
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26417828 - 01/05/20 04:05 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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i swear there should be a sticky at the top with the words PEROXIDE HAS NO PLACE IN MYCOLOGY PERIOD. thats why u make your own shit cuz most of these clowns that r selling pre made garbage dont know wtf they r talking about also ditch the heating pad your not growing a reptile room temp is perfect
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26417832 - 01/05/20 04:07 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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You had dirty spawn. It is extremely bacterial. Might get a few fruits, but I seriously doubt itll be anything worthwhile. Anything above 60 is ideal. Lower than that and you wont see much growth. Higher than 75 you're drying out tubs and breeding bacteria. Scratch your set up. Become a lurker and learn. Try again. This hobby isnt quick and you'll develop a great amount of patience if you stick with it
Edited by HighHarles (01/05/20 04:10 PM)
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26417835 - 01/05/20 04:10 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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jcm4620 said: i swear there should be a sticky at the top with the words PEROXIDE HAS NO PLACE IN MYCOLOGY PERIOD. thats why u make your own shit cuz most of these clowns that r selling pre made garbage dont know wtf they r talking about also ditch the heating pad your not growing a reptile room temp is perfect
Peroxide has its uses in microbiology in general. Maybe not for the way its used but do your research on the effects of peroxide on oral thrush (aka candida)
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26417860 - 01/05/20 04:26 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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cobweb would be it dude and thats proven suspect at best. im not gnna get into a stupid arguement with ya over it but you know damn well what i meant and u just couldnt resist tryjn to be a know it all smart ass i promise there is more ppl who will tell ya the same thing i did
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26417877 - 01/05/20 04:34 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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I agree to the extent that it is not good for sterilization of fruting chambers and substrates. I dont agree with the context it is used in a general aspect. It will 100% fight back candida as a medical treatment for thrush. Which is a fungus. Which is mycology.
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26417882 - 01/05/20 04:38 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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I believe the issue is that it doesnt kill spores. Dunk a piece of mycelium in peroxide sometime
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26417901 - 01/05/20 04:44 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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again dude were growing fuckin magic mushrooms here man. il bet u a thosand dollars nobody gives a fried rats asshole about what your arguing for. u are trying to be a know it all on purpose to argue so you can justify that shit. nobody cares about thrush and shit. were not writing papers or conducting tests and shit to win the science medal and shit.most of us just like mushrooms and growing drugs for fun
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26417912 - 01/05/20 04:48 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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Not all of us are growing "magic mushrooms". Some just love fungi in general. For medicinal purposes. Like the cure for UC and chrones
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26417926 - 01/05/20 04:53 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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Mushrooms are not drugs.
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26417928 - 01/05/20 04:53 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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look im done u know damn well what i meant. im off to learn and help others not gnna apend my time arguing with someone who obviously just likes to hear himself talk. registered on 12-30 and already that many post- point proven
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26417939 - 01/05/20 04:57 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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Have a good one dude!
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26418157 - 01/05/20 06:53 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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In today's mush cult world peroxide is not recommended. 
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bodhisatta said: We have more enzymes to protect us from peroxide than mycelium. We're mammals after all. And even still peroxide is long been something not recommended to rinse cuts and scrapes with because it prolongs healing, damages healthy tissue, increases the chances of scarring and or worse scars. Peroxide not only has no use in mycology it really has no use in your home. Its bad for your mouth even diluted down too. Don't gargle that shit
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Tormato]
#26418167 - 01/05/20 06:59 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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Tormato said: In today's mush cult world peroxide is not recommended. 
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bodhisatta said: We have more enzymes to protect us from peroxide than mycelium. We're mammals after all. And even still peroxide is long been something not recommended to rinse cuts and scrapes with because it prolongs healing, damages healthy tissue, increases the chances of scarring and or worse scars. Peroxide not only has no use in mycology it really has no use in your home. Its bad for your mouth even diluted down too. Don't gargle that shit
Well when my steroids give me a thrush from high blood sugar, peroxide keeps it at bay. What would your suggestion, other than harah anti fungal,for fighting Candida when you have an auto immune disease and are also taking infusion?
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26418174 - 01/05/20 07:01 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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When you have no immune system you cannot rely on your body any longer to fight infection
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26418175 - 01/05/20 07:01 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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go to a medical forum for that shit this is mush cult
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26418226 - 01/05/20 07:31 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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Diego said: When you have no immune system you cannot rely on your body any longer to fight infection
Fucking hell, I've been annoyed at Diego for what seemed like a long time now for his arguing stupid shit and giving bad advice. I never would've thought this was only his 5th day on here.
Any way there can be a ban issued for being an unhelpful know-it-all?
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Diego said: When you have no immune system you cannot rely on your body any longer to fight infection
Fucking hell, I've been annoyed at Diego for what seemed like a long time now for his arguing stupid shit and giving bad advice. I never would've thought this was only his 5th day on here.
Any way there can be a ban issued for being and unhelpful know-it-all?
ya bro its a bit insane and out of hand. i started seeing a common trend of thread jacking and being an arguing know it all so i went and looked up a shit ton of past posts and came to the logical conclusion of thats whats goin on here. so im sure the mods r aware of it by now anyway cuz if i noticed it that means its waaay past noticeable at this point. that being said im just ignoring it from now on and aint gnna get sucked into that trap again.
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#26418349 - 01/05/20 08:27 PM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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We're not here fighting fucking thrush we are not here growing medicinal and gourmet mushrooms we are here growing psychedelic mushrooms
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26418409 - 01/05/20 09:09 PM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Yeah buddy, thanks for the info. Makes me think he's actually anti-shroom and trying to prevent people from having success or maybe some dick cop trolling.
I don't wanna put anyone on ignore and I don't want to pass it up when I read bad info (and I don't have time to patrol all the bad info here) but I'd be all pissed off if someone was misleading me when I didn't know any better so I hate to see it happen to others.
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thats why if i ever question any advise i give that i am not 100% sure of i tell ppl to not take any actions either way until told so by a tc
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26418423 - 01/05/20 09:20 PM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Right on, that's why phrases like: IMO or IME, or "I think that..." should be used more often when that's the case
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26418429 - 01/05/20 09:23 PM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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but anyway we should prolly get this thread back on track here. sorry op shit like that happens sometimes dont hold it against us lol😃 but if you upload a pic to this sight you have to copy and paste it into your post try that and im sure the correct ppl will chime in and help with your metabolite problem. usually when its a gusher like you described its just better off to toss it but wait for a tc to look at it and tell ya whats what.
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A ban for practicing my first ammendment right. If anyone wants to do that im fine with not being apart of a communist agenda.
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Diego said: A ban for practicing my first ammendment right. If anyone wants to do that im fine with not being apart of a communist agenda.
your rights granted to you by our wonderful United States constitution do not apply here. this would fall into the private business area and the owner/operators of said business can enforce any rules or regulations they see fit. im also a proud capitalist American who will never be part of any communist or socialist agenda but if you were truly as smart as u act like you are you wouldnt have had to be explained how the rules work. so that bein said piss off with that kind of attitude here cuz nobody cares and we do not want to waste our time arguing stupid pointless shit. this is a mushroom cultivation forum not twitter
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26418773 - 01/06/20 06:05 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Hate will not change my mind. I refuse to be bullied into popular opinion. When you wanna act mature and produce evidence proving an M.D. wrong. I will ( depending on the evidence) change my statement accordingly and publicly state my opinion was wrong.
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26418790 - 01/06/20 06:27 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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well im just gnna report ya hows that i tried to get the thread back on track but u insist on trolling so good luck to ya dr dipshit
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26418797 - 01/06/20 06:36 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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so again lets get back on topic here
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26418807 - 01/06/20 06:43 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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That shows alot about your character. You talk about how you grow "drugs" then threat to rat in the same thread
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
#26418823 - 01/06/20 06:57 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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thats it i dont know about anyone else here but im done with this🤡 cron u wanna step back in here n handle this? thats if your still on at the moment. otherwise if any other mod wants to weigh in here and help get this thread back on track itd b appreciated im sure the op would like their question/ problem solved
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: jcm4620]
#26419093 - 01/06/20 10:58 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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Lol jcm somebody else cracked before I did. Been trying to stay civil.
Anyway about the op Jesus Christ man.
Does anybody know for sure if that’s even myc metabolites?? It looks a lot like bacteria that shows up on agar sometimes only like a super bad case of it.
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: A.k.a]
#26419125 - 01/06/20 11:14 AM (4 years, 23 days ago) |
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ya man im sorry fellas sometimes shit gets under my skin and i cant contain myself lol but ya idk that shit just looks fuckin weird wish the pic was a lil better but im sure a tc will look at it soon enough and give a for sure opinion but i cant say for certain i could go either way metab or contam
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: Diego]
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Diego said: That shows alot about your character. You talk about how you grow "drugs" then threat to rat in the same thread
Ok sorry to prolong the derailment but obviously he just changed his sig pic based on this statement. As if the two things are comparable
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i saw that also
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Diego said: A ban for practicing my first ammendment right. If anyone wants to do that im fine with not being apart of a communist agenda.
You don't have rights this is not murica it's shroomery lol, I'm not gonna ban you for using peroxide so feel free because it's not against the rules and if people don't like it that's what the ratings are forQuote:
Diego said: That shows alot about your character. You talk about how you grow "drugs" then threat to rat in the same thread
This is the type of stuff that people get banned for. Dragging things off topic with rants and basic bullshit
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Re: LOTS of mycelium metabolites [Re: cronicr]
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Diego said: A ban for practicing my first ammendment right. If anyone wants to do that im fine with not being apart of a communist agenda.
You don't have rights this is not murica it's shroomery lol, I'm not gonna ban you for using peroxide so feel free because it's not against the rules and if people don't like it that's what the ratings are forQuote:
Diego said: That shows alot about your character. You talk about how you grow "drugs" then threat to rat in the same thread
This is the type of stuff that people get banned for. Dragging things off topic with rants and basic bullshit
This was never my intention. To clarify, i do not use peroxide in my cultivation. It is no good against endospores
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