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InvisibleXlea321
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Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses
    #2641005 - 05/05/04 11:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Remember, this is "freedom"...

A 53-page report not intended for public release outlines what's being termed as the "sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses" of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. troops at the Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad.

The internal report, obtained by The New Yorker magazine, was written by Major General Antonio M. Taguba and includes, according to the publication, documented abuse between October and December of 2003 such as:


Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees; pouring cold water on naked detainees; beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair; threatening male detainees with rape; allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell; sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick, and using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38303


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InvisibleXochitl
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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: Xlea321]
    #2641172 - 05/05/04 12:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

wow


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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: Xochitl]
    #2641231 - 05/05/04 01:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Can't remember if "We will rape you with a broomstick" was among Bush's pre-invasion promises to the Iraqi people...


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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: Xlea321]
    #2642282 - 05/05/04 06:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Open mouth, insert foot. Maybe Alex isnt' a total anti-US hypocrite after all.


Edited by germin8tionn8ion (05/05/04 08:55 PM)


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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2642336 - 05/05/04 06:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)



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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: Xlea321]
    #2642433 - 05/05/04 06:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Under the terrible stresses of war, there are some in every country who commit atrocities. The difference is that Americans are upset, ashamed, or angry when their troops do it, while people in some Middle Eastern countries danced in the streets on 9/11 and when the bodies of dead American civilians were dragged through the streets in Iraq. - Thomas Sowell (a very wise man)


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: Xlea321]
    #2643801 - 05/06/04 01:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)



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    #2644207 - 05/06/04 04:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: ]
    #2644214 - 05/06/04 04:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think you should think about your choice of words before you post them.


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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: ]
    #2644284 - 05/06/04 05:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sorry your ability to comprehend what is said is so poor. No-one was attempting to justify anything. The author was merely pointing out that rather than americans dancing in the streets, we are concerned when something like this happens. We, in general, do not celebrate this type of news. It's especially telling how many here protest over pictures but were so silent when the americans were beaten, tortured, killed and mutilated.

Also it seems you missed this....

I think you should learn how to read, and think.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: germin8tionn8ion]
    #2644804 - 05/06/04 11:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe Alex isnt' a total anti-US hypocrite after all.

Don't confuse anti-US and anti-Bush.


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Invisiblesakura
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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: Xlea321]
    #2644845 - 05/06/04 11:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure not EVERY Arab was dancing...

In general, my heart would tend to agree with luvdemshroom's post, but it is just not correct to judge an entire race on the 'worst-case scenario' of a news report.  Likewise, I'm sure we all know someone who laughed their head off at the Iraqi photos and said "Serves 'Em Right!"

(Also, you can never be sure of what you might have seen if the camera angle was a little wider :wink: )


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Re: Sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses [Re: Xlea321]
    #2646254 - 05/06/04 05:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

In 1971 The Stanford Prison Experiment was held. Middle class college students, all men, were divided into two groups for role playing- prisoners and prison guards. They were "arrested" one by one and taken to the mock prison.

'What suspects had done was to answer a local newspaper ad calling for volunteers in a study of the psychological effects of prison life. We wanted to see what the psychological effects were of becoming a prisoner or prison guard. To do this, we decided to set up a simulated a prison and then carefully note the effects of this institution on the behavior of all those within its walls.'

The men were pre-screened for mental disorders, history of drug abuse, etc. Their classification as prisoners/prison guards was arbitrary. The experiment was scheduled to last two weeks. A decision was made to cancel the study after only 6 days due to abuse of the "prisoners" by the "guards". Here is a link to the website. Very interesting stuff.

http://www.prisonexp.org/slide-2.htm


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