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Just rhizo right?
    #26408440 - 12/30/19 08:35 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Yooo,

Just making sure cuz im paranoid about my last grow getting contaminated. This is just rhizomorphic growth in these jars and not a contaminant correct? Probably be spawning in the next day or 2.



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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26408450 - 12/30/19 08:47 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Looks like bacteria to me hoss.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26408464 - 12/30/19 09:02 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Whaaat? I thought they looked fine! Clearly Im having problems seeing issues in jars cuz i thought the last ones looked fine. You think they all look bad?


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26408477 - 12/30/19 09:14 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

That stringy stuff is rhizo.  The uncolonized grains indicate bacteria maybe.

But a lot of those grains are so tight against the glass it looks like that's why the myc couldn't get to there.

I don't think it looks too bad. 

But it could be better.  It looks like maybe the grains were a bit too wet.  Hard to tell from the myc covering most of it, but it looks suspicious.

If you can get the grains just right then its easier to get them fully completely colonized.

If you want you could shake it up once more and see how it recovers.  That'll tell you if you have a bac problem.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26408479 - 12/30/19 09:16 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

They do look bacterial but that doesn’t mean there trash. I’d spawn them to individual shoeboxes.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26408480 - 12/30/19 09:16 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Shake again and see in a couple days, you’ll know when you open them from the smell probably.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: SFS96]
    #26408482 - 12/30/19 09:20 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

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They do look bacterial but that doesn’t mean there trash. I’d spawn them to individual shoeboxes.




Same here.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26408488 - 12/30/19 09:24 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

As someone mentioned before, you will know from the smell when you open them


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: SFS96]
    #26408519 - 12/30/19 09:50 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Look bacterial.

Jars look really wet also.
Maybe try not filling them with so much grain,
may help with condensation if you’re prepping your grain right.


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They do look bacterial but that doesn’t mean there trash. I’d spawn them to individual shoeboxes.




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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Mr.Kaption]
    #26408657 - 12/31/19 12:52 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

that first one looks like its not very good for sure and all def look bacterial. but id still spawn to individual tubs as stated already. what was your method of inoculation


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #26408746 - 12/31/19 04:26 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

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As someone mentioned before, you will know from the smell when you open them




Lots of bacteria doesn't even give off a scent. I've had some pretty gnarly looking jars that still smelt pretty mushy...

I've never had a bacterial jar not produce either so they are definitely worth spawning.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26408747 - 12/31/19 04:27 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Also in jar #2 you can see the mutated mycelium, which is a tell tale sign of bacteria...


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26408757 - 12/31/19 04:41 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Damn....getting my heart broken this morning. Anyhow, I usually do the 6 qt. Shoeboxes with 2 jars of spawn and 2 jars of coir/verm mix to make roughly 4 qt total. How would I do them individually? Just do like 1 qt spawn and 2 qt coir mix?


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26408758 - 12/31/19 04:42 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Also, would I be better off to just straight spawn or give em a shake and see what happens?


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26408767 - 12/31/19 05:03 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

They don't look bad imo, you shure should get some fruits out of them.
I would not shake them at this stage, since it would just redistribute the contaminants that are already there.
You can either top fruit them directly in the jar by putting a bit of coir on top, or still spawn them to shoeboxes. I'm pretty sure your proposed recipe of 2qt spawn and substrate each will give you a decent yield. Would not go too low on the spawn/sub ratio, because if you have more spawn colonisation is quicker and there's less time for the contaminants to take hold.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26408773 - 12/31/19 05:17 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

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Damn....getting my heart broken this morning. Anyhow, I usually do the 6 qt. Shoeboxes with 2 jars of spawn and 2 jars of coir/verm mix to make roughly 4 qt total. How would I do them individually? Just do like 1 qt spawn and 2 qt coir mix?




Just do it how you always do and dont listen to anyone telling you to top fruit IMO. Unless you just hoping to get like 5 dry grams out of a quart.

I took 4 jars that were bacterial AF way worse than yours and threw them all together in a mono and still have some decent fruits coming out of it..

Just do it man you'll he fine, bacteria isn't a death sentence at all...

So ya I'd just stick to two jars per box...that's just me tho

and like that other dude said, dont shake and wait... just spawn em.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26408927 - 12/31/19 08:20 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Yeah I wouldn’t shake them just wait it out. I’d run shoeboxes with one quart spawn and 2 quart substrate but u might get lucky if u spawn them together.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: SFS96]
    #26408941 - 12/31/19 08:33 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

This is the stuff u wanna look out for, it's not rhizo growth its mutated mycelium :


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26409320 - 12/31/19 12:56 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Agreed in my experience those mycelium fingers popping out of nowhere are a sign of bacteria not rhizo growth.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26410704 - 01/01/20 10:14 AM (4 years, 28 days ago)

Spawned 4 of the 6 jars this morning.  Still waiting on 1 of the other 2 jars to finish colonizing and ill spawn them to a shoebox as well. The 4 I opened today didnt have much of a smell at all from the jars but did have the strong muchroom smell when mixing into the sub. I usually let the tubs colonize for 10 days before casing with a very thin top layer of oven sterilized verm and move into fruiting. Ill keep you posted how it goes. Thanks for all the help.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26410714 - 01/01/20 10:28 AM (4 years, 28 days ago)

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Spawned 4 of the 6 jars this morning.  Still waiting on 1 of the other 2 jars to finish colonizing and ill spawn them to a shoebox as well. The 4 I opened today didnt have much of a smell at all from the jars but did have the strong muchroom smell when mixing into the sub. I usually let the tubs colonize for 10 days before casing with a very thin top layer of oven sterilized verm and move into fruiting. Ill keep you posted how it goes. Thanks for all the help.




Good luck bro... as long as all your other shit is in check I dont see why you couldn't get an oz from each jar...


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26423305 - 01/08/20 05:02 PM (4 years, 21 days ago)

Checked on the first shoeboxes today. The tek I use states to let the sub colonize for 7-10 days before moving to fruiting. Ive always just done the 10 days and never peeked at the progress until today. Today is day 7 for these 2. They smell and look ok but im assuming the would need the remaining 3 days to fill in and be completely white across the top right? Or should they be fruited now? You guys see any obvious issues with these right now in terms of bacteria/contam?



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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26423335 - 01/08/20 05:26 PM (4 years, 21 days ago)

Looks good to me.

I’d definitely fruit them, no need for a solid white surface.

Did you put a top layer of coir or just mix and level?


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26423349 - 01/08/20 05:33 PM (4 years, 21 days ago)

Yeah, it said to use a top layer of coir only over the mixed sub so thats what Ive always done. So is there any benefit to giving them the 10 days over 7? This would be considered fully colonized? Would it take 3 days longer to fruit?


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26423359 - 01/08/20 05:39 PM (4 years, 21 days ago)

I love the top layer it helps a lot for me.

Most of the time people here skip the colonization and go right into fruiting. Gets things done quicker and doesn’t hurt yield.

Lol I feel like this is the fifth time today I’ve written this post.

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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26423364 - 01/08/20 05:42 PM (4 years, 21 days ago)

I’d call it 100%.

The only thing that caught my eye was the uncolonized strip on the left side of the one tub. Hopefully it’s just coincidence.

If you go straight to fruiting with a top layer usually instead of getting a surface like you have now, you’ll just get a bunch of knots on the surface with a little bit of myc.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26427750 - 01/11/20 09:12 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Ended up getting lazy and just giving it the 3 extra days. That strip filled in pretty nicely in that time. Cased with a thin layer of oven sterilized verm and moved into fruiting today. Got one PESA and 1 box of B+. Other box of PESA should be coming out wednesday. They look pretty healthy. Should have no problem getting 1 flush from each I assume.



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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26428645 - 01/11/20 06:32 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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Ended up getting lazy and just giving it the 3 extra days. That strip filled in pretty nicely in that time. Cased with a thin layer of oven sterilized verm and moved into fruiting today. Got one PESA and 1 box of B+. Other box of PESA should be coming out wednesday. They look pretty healthy. Should have no problem getting 1 flush from each I assume.






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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: SynKyd]
    #26428710 - 01/11/20 07:37 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

I’m not sure what people were saying at all; perhaps I am missing something; they look like 100% healthy jars. Btw, I’ve seen jars that had trich, also sour rot all over, they were left to devices and 100% recovery and ended up being MONSTER MYCELIUM, creating most potent cubes ever had.

So don’t listen to anyone. Especially not on this site. There’s a few decent people. Not many. If that comment offends, then I’m talking to you, if not then not. Bite.

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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Cultivation369]
    #26433030 - 01/14/20 11:58 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Well the third box didnt come out looking nearly as colonized. Is this baby still ok to move to fruiting tomorrow?



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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26433032 - 01/14/20 12:00 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Yep you can put them into fruiting from day one.

Something looks off about that last one though, not sure why. It looks a little dry to me too but it’s hard to tell in pictures.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Cultivation369]
    #26433043 - 01/14/20 12:09 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

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I’m not sure what people were saying at all; perhaps I am missing something; they look like 100% healthy jars. Btw, I’ve seen jars that had trich, also sour rot all over, they were left to devices and 100% recovery and ended up being MONSTER MYCELIUM, creating most potent cubes ever had.

So don’t listen to anyone. Especially not on this site. There’s a few decent people. Not many. If that comment offends, then I’m talking to you, if not then not. Bite.

Your shit looks amazing dude.




Where are all these people coming from lately?? Jesus.


Are you getting knots on the first two yet??


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26433496 - 01/14/20 03:51 PM (4 years, 15 days ago)

Yeah, theyre starting to knot up.



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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26434992 - 01/15/20 01:50 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

So is the third box good or nah?


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26434996 - 01/15/20 01:53 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

What’s it look like now?  Probably should be fine.


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26438066 - 01/17/20 08:51 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Think im seeing an issue now with one of the first two. Seems as though it's turning more patchy than knotty, and I see at least one pin that looks mutated. Last time I saw this it was turning green within a few days.



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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26448089 - 01/23/20 12:09 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

All is well that ends well. Got a few mutants in the B+ box but overall not too bad. Thanks for all the help.



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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26448118 - 01/23/20 12:27 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

Those turned out good man


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Re: Just rhizo right? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26451867 - 01/25/20 01:13 PM (4 years, 4 days ago)

Yeah, where do these people come from? How dare anyone say anything about anything unless it’s within the preset margins of perfection within their perception. GFY


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