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Using LSA in day-to-day situations.
    #26407293 - 12/30/19 05:35 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hi there,
I have been reading up about LSA (Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds). People say that there is a slight body high and psychedelic mindset but no real open eye visuals, people report having closed eye visuals though. I am looking for a drug that isn't going to take me to the forth dimension, just something i can take on a rainy day to make the day seem more interesting. So i can close my eyes and kinda escape reality for a bit and walk around with a different perspective but i'm still able to function and talk to people without seeming off or like i'm on drugs. LSA seems like a good fit but i wanted people to give advice and experiences of using it and would it fit for what i intend to use it for.
Thanks.


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Re: Using LSA in day-to-day situations. [Re: alfie]
    #26407309 - 12/30/19 06:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Also how long do HBWS keep for? I've had some for a while in a bag in the dark i haven't used them yet, will they be as potent.


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Re: Using LSA in day-to-day situations. [Re: alfie]
    #26407570 - 12/30/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think you need to worry about the LSA degrading.  My guess is the LSA will take longer to degrade than it will take for you to lose interest in using it.

You should probably look into vasodilaters to combine with LSA for comfort and even safety.

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Re: Using LSA in day-to-day situations. [Re: alfie]
    #26407574 - 12/30/19 10:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

HBWR seeds are horrible. Why not just take a low dose of mushrooms?


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Re: Using LSA in day-to-day situations. [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #26407794 - 12/30/19 01:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've been reading about low doses of mushrooms but there seems to be a debate if it feels good or not. This is what i was reading: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19159881/fpart/all/vc/1


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Re: Using LSA in day-to-day situations. [Re: alfie]
    #26407929 - 12/30/19 02:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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alfie said:
Hi there,
I have been reading up about LSA (Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds). People say that there is a slight body high and psychedelic mindset but no real open eye visuals, people report having closed eye visuals though. I am looking for a drug that isn't going to take me to the forth dimension, just something i can take on a rainy day to make the day seem more interesting. So i can close my eyes and kinda escape reality for a bit and walk around with a different perspective but i'm still able to function and talk to people without seeming off or like i'm on drugs. LSA seems like a good fit but i wanted people to give advice and experiences of using it and would it fit for what i intend to use it for.
Thanks.




I did the lowest recommended dose of morning glory seeds (also contain LSA), got to see tracers on my hand, no colour visuals, but I could see a recurring pattern on surfaces, the mindset was trippy but not as good as mushrooms. I don't recommend morning glory seeds because you have to eat like 200 and you feel nauseous, next time I'll try HBWR because you only need to eat like 8 I think and hopefully that means less nausea?

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alfie said:
I've been reading about low doses of mushrooms but there seems to be a debate if it feels good or not.




Any time I have eaten shrooms it makes me feel physically good, my joints feel warm and it feels amazing to move them, the same with stretching. Looking at bright colours puts the same good physical feeling into my chest and grows with deep breathing.


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Re: Using LSA in day-to-day situations. [Re: alfie]
    #26408062 - 12/30/19 04:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you’re going to do this, do an extract.


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Re: Using LSA in day-to-day situations. [Re: lowbrow]
    #26408074 - 12/30/19 04:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well Alfie.
I have just recently started
Experimenting with hbwr
Seeds and I think the effects
Are very mild and nice.
And you can still act totally
Normal if you can master
The effects.
I extract them these days
And they work great.
I mean think about it.
People in the Amazon take
Plants and seeds every day
And they don’t go crazy.
So why should we.
But I say yes.
Try a small amount.
Like 1 or 3 seeds to see if
The trip happens.


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Re: Using LSA in day-to-day situations. [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #26408103 - 12/30/19 04:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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SurReality said:
I don't think you need to worry about the LSA degrading.  My guess is the LSA will take longer to degrade than it will take for you to lose interest in using it.

You should probably look into vasodilaters to combine with LSA for comfort and even safety.

Welcome to the Shroomery Alfie




Morning glory/HBWR and Rivea Corymbosa all have more lysergamides in them than just LSA. And while it hasn't been researched it does seem like some of them degrade sometimes fairly quickly depending on the environment.

For example fresh seeds seem to cause less nausea and have stronger psychedelic effects. Old/dry seeds seem more likely to cause nausea and have weaker psychedelic effects as well as lower potency.

That and the fact that especially Morning Glory seeds commonly sold are often treated with pesticides means it's best to grow them yourself or source them from a quality supplier that has fresh stock.

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HBWR seeds are horrible. Why not just take a low dose of mushrooms?




Have you actually tried them much? It's been years personally but I've had some surprisingly pleasant experiences from LSA/HBWR. Even combined them with low doses of Syrian Rue a few times with friends and we all had a great time with little to no nausea. Cold Water exacts are especially helpful with Morning Glory, but with HBWR I'd just chew up 5-10+ seeds and had mild stomach discomfort at worst, comparable or even milder then nausea I've experienced from mushrooms.

I went and saw a few concerts on HBWR with friends, had an amazing time and we biked home after in the dark but we could literally see in the dark thanks to the moonlight and our massive dilated pupils being extra light sensitive.

Never used them in particularly high doses, but they can have some really beautiful and relaxing effects. Kind of like a mild version of LSD if it was sedating instead of stimulating, with more of a natural mushroom body high.

I tried growing HBRW for awhile, had a few plants get 2-3~ years old and massive with 1-2' leaves and vines way up into the trees. But we have a cold winter and they never flowered and eventually died in a freeze. Morning Glory is easy to grow though, very invasive even in many places. There are also at least 5-10+ psychoactive morning glory varieties, and I haven't seen any research into possible differences between their lysergamide content.

From what I've read Rivea Corymbosa is the best of all the LSA plants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbina_corymbosa

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The Nahuatl word ololiuhqui means "round thing", and refers to the small, brown, oval seeds of the morning glory,[4] not the plant itself, which is called coaxihuitl (“snake-plant") in Nahuatl, and hiedra, bejuco or quiebraplatos in the Spanish language. The seeds, in Spanish, are sometimes called semilla de la Virgen (seeds of the Virgin Mary).[citation needed] While little of it is known outside of Mexico, its seeds were perhaps the most common psychedelic drug used by the natives.[citation needed]

In 1941, Richard Evans Schultes first identified ololiuhqui as Turbina corymbosa and the chemical composition was first described in 1960 in a paper by Albert Hofmann.[5] The seeds contain ergine (LSA), an ergoline alkaloid similar in structure to LSD, which is also present in ergot of rye. Ergot of rye was part of the Kykeon, the drink which was a component of the Eleusinian mysteries.[6] The psychedelic properties of Turbina corymbosa and a comparison of the potency of different varieties were studied in the Central Intelligence Agency's MKULTRA Subproject 22 in 1956. The hallucinatory activity from LSA doesn't go beyond phosphenes ('seeing stars'), in contrast to the complex hallucinations from LSD.




Supposedly it causes the least side effects since it has less of the glycosides or whatever are in Morning Glories and tend to cause nausea. It also is considerably more potent then Morning Glory, though less potent then HBWR slightly.


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Re: Using LSA in day-to-day situations. [Re: alfie]
    #26408263 - 12/30/19 06:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

My friends and I loved to trip on HBWR seeds in college.  They make you trip harrrrrd.

I recommend you eat a medium sized meal a couple hours before the trip so you have energy for the trip.

I recommend just eating a few whole seeds (1 - 3 seeds for first time), but SPACE THEM APART BY AT LEAST 15 MINUTES EACH.  HBWR seeds are notorious for making you nauseous, so if you space the seeds apart  then your stomach won't be overloaded at once and make you barf.  To eat a seed just stick it in your mouth and chew it til it's small pieces, then swallow with a sip of water.

LSA is truly a great drug.
One time I had a revelation so intense on the drug that I believed the world's problems were all solved.  Once i came down I forgot the revelation lol.
Open eye visuals are mild compared to most psychedelics, but I consistently would get LSA HD vision, which is where I suddenly can see with greater clarity when looking at things.  My vision would also become wayy wider, like that of a fly's eyes, so I sometimes could see behind me a little while looking forward.

The body high is strong and amazing. 
The nausea can stick with you for hours, though, so try to smoke weed to calm that down.


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