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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: Kizzle]
    #26405479 - 12/28/19 10:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Ok so my coir is riddled with what I imagine would be salt?



I've seen this alot in my coir I always assumed it was sand particles.



This explains it, it's just sea salt left after washing the Coco with sea water. Some companies use fresh water some don't..
Watch 0:50




How could it be sea salt though if it's not water soluble?

I'm pretty sure I've seen this stuff in my coir too but never really paid any attention to it, just another odd impurity. From the videos it seems like just about anything could wind up in there.



Tbh I've never worked with coco coir, nor found it in stores in my district. Lol the dude in the vid said it was sea salt, I trusted him, he lied to me! I shall unsub :lol:
Anyway not all crystals/salt are the same, so cron's could be salt while your are not..
If it's not water soluble then it could be mineral crystal formed in the lakes they soak the coir in. Could be Calcium (selenite) or Aluminum based or silica shit they may add to keep the coir dry, you could take a close up pic and post it to r/crystalgrowing maybe they'll ID it.
If it's aluminum based crystals then it's best to avoid it, because mycelium can break it and transfer it to the mushrooms, then the aluminum will end up in your brain. Could contains heavy metals too :wink: maybe it's time to start using polymer.


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: ShamanBoof]
    #26405513 - 12/28/19 11:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

( Pics from a few years ago. )
Since iv learned agar and do bulk with coir verm and gypsum via bucket tek , I rarely get contamination in my tubs and ill pull up to 7 flushes before seeing trich or anything weird. Maybe it is the brand of coir? I always thought it was processed at high temps so it kind of was already pasturized?

That was a cool video about the Coco coir !













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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: Buddaking]
    #26405517 - 12/28/19 11:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah of cakes have the best biological efficiency




I have seen cakes going well over 300% BE on multiple flushes.. I will always keep a bag of brown rice around. I would clone clusters from MS cakes & run my sectors from their in tubs. Seemed to work well & cut my time, space & energy usage to  desired genetic traits in master slants.



I like that process. No need to do a huge bulk just to get cloning strains.

Although with a bigger MS tub would mean more Gene variance to choose a clone from?


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: Luminous7]
    #26405546 - 12/29/19 12:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: murderlabz]
    #26405548 - 12/29/19 12:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I pc'd my coir pasteurized it bucket tek u name it.
Even if trich survives pasturizing it doesn't like to germinate on coir


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
    #26405550 - 12/29/19 12:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I likely just found a shitty brand of coir with lots of impurities and had dirty cultures which would make 5 different cube cultures suspect.
This last run was sfd's for filters poly and no mod lids.
I even swabbed my filter n it showed nothing on agar


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
    #26405557 - 12/29/19 12:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Or shitty batch anyway. I'm not sure how relevant brand is. These places that distribute coir bricks most likely get them from a large number of different sources and just slap a label on them so you never really know what you're getting.


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: Kizzle]
    #26405601 - 12/29/19 02:11 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

hey cron have u noticed it in both brick and shredded form?? i bought a bag yesterday of eco earth in a 8qt shredded bag and it looked pretty good actually. at least compared to the last bricks of eco i had . the shredded shit seemed darker and felt nice and fluffy. as i stated before i quit buyin eco bricks a while back for the same reason and switched to this generic shit in 14 cubic ft. bricks from the hydro store here. so far that has been fine but as someone said who knows where they get the shit from. i have very limited space and only ever run no more than 4 monos at a time so that big ass brick will last me a good god damn long time but ima use the shredded eco bag next just to see how it does.  idk the shit is frustrating tho i dont get how shit works great for years on end then all of a sudden its shit


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: jcm4620]
    #26405678 - 12/29/19 04:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

As others suggested, try your cultures with verm only, straw or cakes. Let’s see if they contaminate. It can easily happen that your coir has nutritional shit, yesterday I picked out a few things from coir which looked like seed hulls.

If this does not work it has to be the culture. The same exact thing happened to me which was the reason I took a break from cult. Every tub I made had trich no matted what I did. I swapped sfd, took extra attention with sterile work, I even started fucking pasteurising and spawn in front of the flowhood. Nothing worked and I just kept throwing out subs after subs. What I did not do is change culture as I had a killer clone and did not want to start over. I just couldn’t understand how my cultures look clean but still greenz.

Cultures may look clean on agar and may look clean on grain, but it is very easy to miss a hidden contam. Swipe some spores transfer a few, drop it on grain and see if you still get green with clean fresh culture.
I know it is super annoying and easy to blame everything else, but if you have clean culture you can basically half ass everything and still get shrooms.


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26406071 - 12/29/19 10:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

FUck I got Mucor pin mold in my eringii bin :frown:





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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26406083 - 12/29/19 10:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I had to send back an order of coir recently bc it looked kind of funny but after I hydrated it, it smelled like shit. Musty and sour. I did a boiling bucket tek too. It was eco earth. Actually I explained that it couldn’t be sent back since I hydrated it and the package weight had increased by a lot lol. I said it would make my reptiles sick and they sent another which turned out to be not fucked up. I also grabbed some growit! brand which is one big brick and slightly cheaper per lb. It seems to be working just as well and holds the same amount of water but it was a lot lighter in color. I haven’t tried the big walmart bricks yet.

As for cultures, I believe that molds can ride along for a while and be invisible. I’m not sure how they infiltrate the myc and hold on for so long. Hate that shit. My ego was big when I first started and I thought that I needed to buy an ozone generator when my first few tubs contamed bc I thought my technique was perfect. In hindsight maybe running an ozone generator could have helped to run one time before growing anything since the house was so old and moldy. My main issue was me just being a noob though.


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: sporealchemy]
    #26406102 - 12/29/19 10:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Does anyone know what this mold is called? It showed up in my agar plates and my myc WOULD NOT GO ANYWHERE NEAR IT like it formed an invisible wall of some sort

Sorry for the flash I couldn’t get the lighting right.


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #26406226 - 12/29/19 11:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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As others suggested, try your cultures with verm only, straw or cakes. Let’s see if they contaminate. It can easily happen that your coir has nutritional shit, yesterday I picked out a few things from coir which looked like seed hulls.

If this does not work it has to be the culture. The same exact thing happened to me which was the reason I took a break from cult. Every tub I made had trich no matted what I did. I swapped sfd, took extra attention with sterile work, I even started fucking pasteurising and spawn in front of the flowhood. Nothing worked and I just kept throwing out subs after subs. What I did not do is change culture as I had a killer clone and did not want to start over. I just couldn’t understand how my cultures look clean but still greenz.

Cultures may look clean on agar and may look clean on grain, but it is very easy to miss a hidden contam. Swipe some spores transfer a few, drop it on grain and see if you still get green with clean fresh culture.
I know it is super annoying and easy to blame everything else, but if you have clean culture you can basically half ass everything and still get shrooms.



Yeah I just spawned some to straw so we will see but that would make 6 cultures all cubensis that have the same mold hiding in them


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
    #26407015 - 12/29/19 10:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Shit got another green jar :frown: figured out y though, it's because this stupid red silicone not sticking. Have no idea what to use instead for my LC jars



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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: ShamanBoof]
    #26407020 - 12/29/19 10:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ditch the syringe filters :super: save those for lc( even those I go un modded


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
    #26407038 - 12/29/19 11:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Ditch the syringe filters :super: save those for lc( even those I go un modded



Yeah I use them for LC but couldn't find normal lid.. How do you glue them?


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: ShamanBoof]
    #26407040 - 12/29/19 11:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

With a proper sized drill bit it's a nice tight fit.


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
    #26408034 - 12/30/19 03:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)





So this is knotting up so in theory it should show green anytime now


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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
    #26408064 - 12/30/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Sloppy sterile tek =



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Re: Let's grow some mold [Re: cronicr]
    #26408081 - 12/30/19 04:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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With a proper sized drill bit it's a nice tight fit.




5/32" for all of the one's I get. You know I had about 40 of these and was too lazy
to buy RTV for new lids, so I just started using these...and they work damn well.

When I get around to getting some RTV, I can just slap down some SFD on the hole
I made for these.


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