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2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? * 1
    #26406577 - 12/29/19 03:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So I just harvested my first monotub and wondering if it is best practice to soak the mycelium for a few hours or to not soak and just mist the top of the mycelium and then put back into fruiting conditions?

For reference: I am following Patsy's micropore tape monotub tek.

Also, I harvested with an exacto knife and cut at the base of the stem. Should there be stem bases still left in the mycelium when I go for 2nd, and 3rd flushes? Or should I try to cut these out or pull them out? They look like mini-tree stumps after you cut down a tree. Thanks for the help!


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: markclark]
    #26406611 - 12/29/19 04:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not familiar with that tek but id soak it. Whatever filters youre using on your tub take an out and soak with some weight on it as to keep it submerged.Youll want to keep some water running too so the water cycles out.


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 1
    #26406616 - 12/29/19 04:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone have a good resource for what to do after the first flush?


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: Z.G]
    #26406627 - 12/29/19 04:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well it depends IMO.

How much water did it use up during the first flush?
Is it still heavy?


If it shrank a bunch and is light I soak and spray or if it was a light first flush and the tub still seems heavy I only give a light mist. Or anywhere in between. Kinda takes feeling it out and seeing what works for you Nd your culture because they all use water a little different and it changes based on ambient conditions too.

I dont worry about weighing it down and I try to only use as much water as it can soak up in a couple hours then pour any excess off.


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: AyePlus] * 1
    #26406649 - 12/29/19 05:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Shrinking doesn't tel you much about moisture. They shrink mainly because they are being eaten and constricted


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: cronicr]
    #26406719 - 12/29/19 06:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah it doesnt really twll you about moisture but often subs shrinK alot after a big fat first flush that also uses a ton of water. Correlation more than causation fosho but I feel like its a good visual clue and IME it rarely is wet and heavy after it shrinks. But to be clear I did say if it shrank alot  and is light


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26406780 - 12/29/19 07:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the replies guys. So it sounds like some of you like to soak and some like to mist. Have you ever A/B tested both methods to find out which works better?

Also, what about the "stem trunks" that are left in the mycelium after I cut the mushrooms at the base. Should I pull these "stem trunks" out or cut them out before I soak or mist to initiate 2nd flush fruiting? They look like mini tree trunks.


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: markclark]
    #26406783 - 12/29/19 07:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I usually soak after the second flush... unless maybe if the first flush is huge.

If you took the time to cut the fruits out, just leave the stem butts there for the next flushes.


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: hummingbird]
    #26406810 - 12/29/19 07:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

soak it bro.

if it was a weak first flush and you know there's plenty of water still in the sub then soak for fifteen to thirty minutes. if it was a solid first flush soak for an hour or two. clean off as many of the aborts as you can first.

check the tribe there's a good soaking thread in there with some disagreement and experiment, worth a read.

here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20710363/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: hummingbird]
    #26407311 - 12/30/19 06:10 AM (4 years, 30 days ago)

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I usually soak after the second flush... unless maybe if the first flush is huge.

If you took the time to cut the fruits out, just leave the stem butts there for the next flushes.




Is it better to not have these "stem trunks?" Should I try to cut unto the mycelium next time to avoid these? Or do it not make a difference for the second flush?

My thoughts were if these trunk weren't here there would be more room for another stem/fruit to grow?


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: SpikeSpiegel]
    #26407312 - 12/30/19 06:11 AM (4 years, 30 days ago)

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soak it bro.

if it was a weak first flush and you know there's plenty of water still in the sub then soak for fifteen to thirty minutes. if it was a solid first flush soak for an hour or two. clean off as many of the aborts as you can first.

check the tribe there's a good soaking thread in there with some disagreement and experiment, worth a read.

here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20710363/fpart/1/vc/1




Thanks man! I checked out the thread. Great read. So I should clean off aborts. What about "stem stumps?"


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Re: 2nd Flush Monotub: Soak or just mist? [Re: markclark]
    #26407946 - 12/30/19 03:03 PM (4 years, 30 days ago)

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Thanks man! I checked out the thread. Great read. So I should clean off aborts. What about "stem stumps?"




Leave 'em. If the culture is strong then the stumps will fuzz up and be fine in the next flush. As good practice try to cut as flush with the substrate surface as possible when harvesting so they're not protruding. Less temptation to recut them later which is avoidable tampering with the substrate.


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