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Offlineesin
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So, now i own a beatiful Pachanoi...
    #2640651 - 05/05/04 08:18 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hi! :laugh:

I finally bought a Pedro cactus! :grin:
Here it is:


By this time i have cut the big branch out of it, only leaving the original cutting and the three pups.

I had to cut it right now for reasons beyond my will.
But I'm only planning on consuming the 16" branch on late august.

-Can i let it dry slowly as it is, in my closet wrapped in a fine cloth until august?

-Or is it better to dry it in the oven sometime soon? Maybe perform an extraction right now?

Which way do you think will make me lose the less precious alkaloids?

Thanks! :sun:


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Re: So, now i own a beatiful Pachanoi... [Re: esin]
    #2640673 - 05/05/04 08:33 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

well heat will destroy some of its alkaloids so you would want to make sure you oven was at a low temperature if you did it. But still you might lose some minute quantity. i would let it dry out slowly. Mainly for the reason that for along time while its drying it will still be alive, in a drought and constant stress state. It could very well be that it will make more alkaloids.

but i don't know sounds illegal


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Re: So, now i own a beatiful Pachanoi... [Re: esin]
    #2640895 - 05/05/04 11:11 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: So, now i own a beatiful Pachanoi... [Re: esin]
    #2640944 - 05/05/04 11:27 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Beautiful Cactus.

Maybe check out nansnook if you haven't already.

By the way, is that a drum I see in the corner? I have two similar drums that are smaller that I carry to drum circles whenever I can get away.


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Re: So, now i own a beatiful Pachanoi... [Re: esin]
    #2641121 - 05/05/04 12:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Is it just me or does that cactus look very fallic? haha. Happy trails.  :smile:


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Re: So, now i own a beatiful Pachanoi... [Re: Floyd_]
    #2641534 - 05/05/04 02:08 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks all  :laugh:!

I've been checking Nans Nook for the last few days. I decided i'm extracting the stuff, as soon as i have the time and resourses.

I will go for lye water/ xylene/ acid water/ evap, IF i manage to find a separatory funnel at a reasonable price.

If not i'll just stick with a crude EtOH or MeOH extraction like i read in Ekstaza's posts.

Either way i will need dry cactus to start with.

-Does anyone know how to dry it properly w/o affecting its quality too much?
-Maybe cut it in slices and spread them in an old newspaper?
-Or maybe in the oven at 50? or 60?C for a few hours? That's below the BP of water so i think it shouldn't be too harmful...

BTW, Ekstaza, i read in a post of yours you were starting to doubt alcohol can efficiently remove all alkaloids from the cactus. What lead you to believe that, if i may ask? Do you have any new info on that?

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>>but i don't know sounds illegal
Don't worry there is nothing illegal here in Boom Forest. There is no Law around here. :wink:

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Yes, Ekstaza that is a djembe drum. Love drum circles too (especially on :mushroom2: in the woods :wink:).

That one in the pic doesn't make sounds, though. It has no leather. My grampa found it in a house he had rented to some Senegalese people when they left.

He was starting to destroy it :shocked: to make a flower pot out of it when i stopped him. That's why the all the strings are hanging :frown:.

I'm trying to find some place that can get me a good leather installed on the drum, though. 'Cause that's the biggest Djembe i've ever seen and i'd love to play on it! :smile:


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Re: So, now i own a beatiful Pachanoi... [Re: esin]
    #2641920 - 05/05/04 04:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

About the alcohol extraction - I just keep getting this feeling that I'm not extracting all of the goodies. Someone also told me that the stronger alcohol could be stripping out more extra gunk than I would like. They suggested a lower content alcohol.

About the drum - It looks like you will have a very nice drum once you get it fixed. Plus, drum circles + mushrooms = outstanding.


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Re: So, now i own a beatiful Pachanoi... [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2644707 - 05/06/04 10:46 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i just bought a Pachanoi (how's that pronounced?) anyway, is there anyway possible to harvest a little at a time, everything i read talks about cutting the whole thing up at once, ive only got one cactus and my mom would be pretty suspicios if i cut the cactus i just bought, and grew for a year, into pieces (yes im still in highschool, senior year class of 2004 turned 18 in december). anyway yea one big trip is always fun but id like to have more than one know what i mean.


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