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#26404993 - 12/28/19 04:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've always wondered this. I just made a post on someone's thread and it got me thinking. I've always understood mushrooms to break down filtered barriers that we've adapted to within a sober mind. While under an experience, you're able to see so much more than what's past the barriers. Now, I know, what is "reality". If you're experiencing, then it's your "reality".
But, anyway, my question is moreso.... when you star gaze.. you're able to see SO much more than when with a sober mind. I feel like it's so much easier to see satellites, and the amount of stars you're able to see is insanity. Now, would this make it a hallucinogenic effect.. or would you think that you're in a higher state of consciousness and able to see with almost "ultra vision".
Because when looking at the amount of stars, it's insane. It's almost like if you were all the way up north with zero light pollution. But, I'm talking about star gazing within the city and seeing what you would in the middle of nowhere with a clear sky.
Always has been something that has intrigued me and made me wonder if it's a heightened sense of vision, or if it's just the mushrooms manifesting what it actually wants to see.
Curious about any input on this and reading some of your opinions on this matter.
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The human brain naturally draws many patterns, and our higher consciousness tries to limit them because most are useless and baseless.
Mushrooms break down higher brain control and stop our minds from disabling our pattern recognition, so we can see many cool things
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Id say it depends on the dose. On low or medium doses I feel like my vision is improved. I can see farther and in general see things clearer. At higher doses there is way more of a hallucination factor, especially in darkness.
I will say that looking at the sky when tripping, day or night, usually is pretty striking. During the day the sky seems larger and more wide open. During the night it always seems larger to me as well with the additional nuance of the stars, moon, celestial bodies, etc. Looking through a telescope while tripping is hands down one of the coolest things ever.
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Last full moon I stared at the moon for 2 minutes straight! then that night in bed I was visited by a blue spirit which I instinctively punched and it disappeared. As for star gazing while tripping well its a good way to get abducted pal. the aliens sense the heightened energy.
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I too believe it to be more acceptable to call it a heightened state of vision at a moderate dose 3/4g of mushrooms. I've always just been so struck by the beauty of the sky while tripping. It's been awhile since I've tripped at night and sky gazed. But it's absolutely beautiful when I'm able to.
As for the daytime, everything does seem very open. I feel so connected to the clouds, the sun, the wind. It's a crazy feeling. You can feel everything that's interconnected. But at night with the stars... man they'll dance for you. The more you look into one spot the further you can see into the darkness. It's always made me wonder though.
Because even when it is a lower end dose and I've done something of such.. it has always feel so "clear". As if, this is what I'm supposed to seeing. Not tripping hard dick, but everything is just crystal clear. My thoughts, my vision, etc.
I love the feeling that at a perfect dose, you just feel like a better version of yourself. A good night trip is sounding pretty damn good right about now. Wish the weather was warmer.
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Terrance Mckenna said in his stoned ape theory that mushrooms helped us evolve because it improved our eyesight thus making us better hunters. i have decent eyesight (20/20) but still require glasses to see clearly at a distance, especially at night. i do notice when i take mushrooms that i can see more clearly at night without my glasses.
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Mushrooms are just one hell of a drug to be honest. The world "remarkable" is even a downgrade for the power of these things.
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numnum59 said: Terrance Mckenna said in his stoned ape theory that mushrooms helped us evolve because it improved our eyesight thus making us better hunters. i have decent eyesight (20/20) but still require glasses to see clearly at a distance, especially at night. i do notice when i take mushrooms that i can see more clearly at night without my glasses.
Yah man. You know, early on in my “mushroom career” I read that by Terrance and was dismissive of it. Then the next time I tripped, bam, it was there, “enhanced visual acuity”, as he puts it. I just hadn’t noticed because I was distracted by all the other sensations of tripping.
My vision is decent without glasses but not great (I wear them when I drive, go to a movie, or something like that). Psilocybin definitely bumps it up a notch. But mostly I trip high doses these days, where the hallucinations blend into whatever enhancement is happening. Either way what he was saying is definitely a thing that happens though, for sure.
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The hallucinations of when you look at something, and it just becomes a melting beautiful piece of geometric patters dancing for you.. can be quite the show as well
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: The hallucinations of when you look at something, and it just becomes a melting beautiful piece of geometric patters dancing for you.. can be quite the show as well
That’s for damn sure!
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I live in the North West of England; famous for the cotton industry (before Ghandi....). So yes, it’s very wet here and we don’t often have clear skies!
So when I stare up at the dark clouds at night, there are often no stars to look at. But what I do see is pretty damned spectacular; the sky will almost instantly turn into a fractal mesh. I see webs of light, points of light, fluttering down from the sky.
And clouds can morph into some pretty scary visions..........
Mush love, DJ Ed
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Re: Star gazing [Re: DJ Ed]
#26405650 - 12/29/19 03:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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DJ Ed said: I live in the North West of England; famous for the cotton industry (before Ghandi....). So yes, it’s very wet here and we don’t often have clear skies!
So when I stare up at the dark clouds at night, there are often no stars to look at. But what I do see is pretty damned spectacular; the sky will almost instantly turn into a fractal mesh. I see webs of light, points of light, fluttering down from the sky.
And clouds can morph into some pretty scary visions..........
Mush love, DJ Ed
I know kind of what your talking about especially the fractal nature of things. It sort of gets imparted on everything in darkness on mushrooms to an extent.
I typically get the paradoxical feelings when the sky is cloudy, like it’s rushing or moving toward me or away from me. I was born an American citizen but basically grew up in France (outside Rouen). Different place for sure but I know how it goes in Western Europe. The skies can feel so crowded and small compared to the western United States. I have seen some mind blowing skies in Montana and Alaska. Not even tripping. Just incredible clarity and views of the stars, things I’ll never forget.
Alas I am living in mainland Europe again. Looking forward to leaving, which will be fairly soon. I’m just kind of a high energy person and there are so many fucking rules here, I kind of go a little nuts. I grew up in the country in France, now I live in the middle of a European major city...the claustrophobia is real, lol.
While it’s far from a perfect place, there is something beautiful and wild and true about America that always pulls me back.
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Both of my elder brothers were born in the states but I’ve never been. I’ve heard about the Montana skies from Joe Rogan’s podcast; must be awesome.
My last trip I tried to go “micro” as opposed to “macro”. I tried staring at a bowl of crystals, then at a bowl of shells. I couldn’t really focus on them in any great resolution at all, because they were all overwritten with some kind of ancient hieroglyphics! Looked older and really different to Egyptian; maybe Sumerian........
Take care, DJ Ed
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Re: Star gazing [Re: DJ Ed]
#26405657 - 12/29/19 03:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry a bit premature my last post. Meant also to add, the reason I was “going micro”, is I’ve been reading Michael Pollan How to Change Your Mind. He talks about Al Hubbard, a psychedelics pioneer. All people whose trips were guided by Al had very mystical experiences, and they tended to witness the creation of the universe and your place in it. His trips were very specifically set up to induce this type of experience. Part of the setting, was getting the trippers to look closely at a diamond. So that’s what I was aiming to do, just couldn’t actually focus on them 🤣
I tried. There’s always next time ;-)
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Re: Star gazing [Re: DJ Ed]
#26405667 - 12/29/19 03:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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DJ Ed said: Sorry a bit premature my last post. Meant also to add, the reason I was “going micro”, is I’ve been reading Michael Pollan How to Change Your Mind. He talks about Al Hubbard, a psychedelics pioneer. All people whose trips were guided by Al had very mystical experiences, and they tended to witness the creation of the universe and your place in it. His trips were very specifically set up to induce this type of experience. Part of the setting, was getting the trippers to look closely at a diamond. So that’s what I was aiming to do, just couldn’t actually focus on them 🤣
I tried. There’s always next time ;-)
Mush love, DJ Ed
Haha well it’s good to try. Mescaline and LSD definitely seem to lend themselves better to micro stuff. Have you ever taken either of those? I can’t go “micro” at all on mushrooms. But on LSD and mescaline it sort of just happens by default. Aldous Huxley literally spends the majority “The Doors of Perception” just taking about his couch and a vase (as well as othere household/domestic objects) so it’s pretty common I think
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Psilotyl said: Haha well it’s good to try. Mescaline and LSD definitely seem to lend themselves better to micro stuff. Have you ever taken either of those? I can’t go “micro” at all on mushrooms. But on LSD and mescaline it sort of just happens by default. Aldous Huxley literally spends the majority “The Doors of Perception” just taking about his couch and a vase (as well as othere household/domestic objects) so it’s pretty common I think
Yes, I started my psychedlic journey over 30 years ago with LSD. In my opinion, LSD gives a vastly different trip to mushrooms, though I haven’t had LSD for 3 decades. I’d love to try it again, for the therapeutic aspects, but I am learning so much each time I use mushrooms, I am starting to no longer feel the draw back to LSD.
From memories, LSD was less visual, but had stacks of synaesthesia - not sure of the spelling but it’s the phenomenon where you see music, hear colours, etc. I used to be able to see musical notes in the air!
So yes I don’t find staring at objects closely that useful on mushrooms. But I am going to keep on trying. Yourself and Loaded Shaman have given me some real inspiration and food for thought these last couple of weeks ✊🏻
I think Doors of Perception was the first psychedlic text I read, many moons ago. It truly filled me with awe and curiosity. Having said all that, it wasn’t the visuals that have drawn me back to mushrooms, it’s the headspace and the wealth of stuff out there to learn about and explore.
Mush love dude, DJ Ed
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Re: Star gazing [Re: DJ Ed]
#26406997 - 12/29/19 10:19 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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We can see fainter stars because our pupils are more dialated (just they they increase in size in the dark to help us to see better)
And someone posted that the shrooms turn off the part of our brain that shuts down our pattern recognition but that makes no sense. It might heighten our pattern recognition but our pattern recognition is plenty strong when sober.
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The brain naturally sees patterns in pretty much everything but our higher brain control has to regulate the patterns we can and cannot consciously perceive so as not to overwhelm us. I agree that shrooms connect more areas of the brain that wouldn't be connected otherwise (thus leading to more pattern recognition) but they also limit the influence of our frontal cortex on our thoughts and in general reduce the level of control our belief system and learned behaviors have on them. Once your mind is free to go wherever it pleases, you consciously perceive the patterns that your brain already subconsciously perceived.
That's my take on it, anyways.
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Just did 2 hits of mystery acid on the top of Mauna Kea Hawaii. The star gazing was nothing short of amazing. Mauna Kea is really a special place for star gazing. You just have to see it.
In my experience, psychedelics have a point of "Ultra Senses". Its right before hallucinations, u have very sensitive sight and hearing, as well as other senses. This is what I believe the Shamans of ancient indigenious cultures did. They used just enough in some situations to highten their senses so they can experience something like star gazing with that much more sensation-ability.
Psychedelics have a nootropic effect at the right dose, which is one reason why i think they are so special.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Just did 2 hits of mystery acid on the top of Mauna Kea Hawaii. The star gazing was nothing short of amazing. Mauna Kea is really a special place for star gazing. You just have to see it.
In my experience, psychedelics have a point of "Ultra Senses". Its right before hallucinations, u have very sensitive sight and hearing, as well as other senses. This is what I believe the Shamans of ancient indigenious cultures did. They used just enough in some situations to highten their senses so they can experience something like star gazing with that much more sensation-ability.
Psychedelics have a nootropic effect at the right dose, which is one reason why i think they are so special.
Absolutely agree with this 110% - very glad you enjoyed yourself my man! I bet that was an amazing, majestic experience.
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I did this on mushrooms and it was kind of different from LSD.
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