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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#26430309 - 01/12/20 09:03 PM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: Update? Did you start this one yet? And where did you get those containers?
Yes i did a test with 1 and it warped! So the problem was that i screw the lid too hard. Good thing is, that problem can be easily fixed by using the lid loose prior sterilization (or just by making a GE hole) and then just screw the lid hard once I open the sterilizer. Is not like the holy grail petri container that you can screw the lid all the way closed before sterilization without problem.
I inoculated the warped container via an agar wedge, is taking a lot of time to see growth. I think i should have used LC instead.
But now that i failed i know how to solve my errors, using the lid loose and using LC instead 
I will update as soon as possible.
These are Mexican pp5 containers https://www.cubasa.mx/catalogo/contenedores-de-alimentos/taparrosca/
I don't think you can get them in the US. But i could send you some via mail if you want tho.
The only similar container i could find in Amazon was the twist n loc ziploc containers but the mexican pp5 containers are more wide which is why i like them more, more fruiting surface.
And yeah don't worry i won't leave this project aside
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: cronicr]
#26430334 - 01/12/20 09:13 PM (4 years, 17 days ago) |
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 Panaeolus cyanescens inoculated via lc on coir/ millet flour. I use these to test lc
So was this done with regular bucket coir mixed with grain flour? Basically pf without adding water since the coir is at FC?
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Thekd95] 1
#26442435 - 01/19/20 10:24 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Here's a little update.

The one above was inoculated with an agar wedge since that day... It finally reaching a good pace.
These just came out of the sterilizer (planning inoculating these by pouring LC):

Before the sterilizer, i filled the containers with substrate where my finger is (about 3/4 of the container), leaving a space so i could see the surface of the substrate from the sides of the container, since the lid is not transparent. To my surprise the substrate expanded all the way up Damn, I don't like that is so close to the GE lid gap, although the one that inoculated with the agar wedge was also filled all the way up and it seems doing fine. Next time i will fill the container 1/2 counting the expansion, they should expand to 3/4 more or less, no?
None of the 7 containers warped by using the lid loose during sterilization 
The container is worth 25 mexican pesos about 1.25$ american dollars.
Additional information, i used roughly 1.88 cups of substrate for each container to filled them at 3/4. Next time that i will fill them half way (1/2), i will need 1.88 / 3 = 0.62 * 2 = 1.25 cups of substrate, correct me if the math is wrong.
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26442471 - 01/19/20 11:13 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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cool hope all goes well il be watchin
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: jcm4620]
#26442476 - 01/19/20 11:16 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Holy fuck I forgot all bout mine they prolly been colonized for 2 weeks
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: cronicr]
#26442477 - 01/19/20 11:16 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Oh shit....22 days
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Thekd95]
#26442478 - 01/19/20 11:19 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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cronicr said:
 Panaeolus cyanescens inoculated via lc on coir/ millet flour. I use these to test lc
So was this done with regular bucket coir mixed with grain flour? Basically pf without adding water since the coir is at FC?
Yes exactly so fc coir at 2:1 coir to flour
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: cronicr]
#26442480 - 01/19/20 11:28 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Do you have a picture of pan cyan grown on coir? Are you just started experimenting with coir and pan cyans? It would be awesome if i could get rid of the horse manure and straw and replace it with coir.
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26442483 - 01/19/20 11:32 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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 They do ok on coir I was just testing lc this time
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: cronicr]
#26442484 - 01/19/20 11:33 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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But that's 100% coir/verm or it has some poo in it?
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26442488 - 01/19/20 11:36 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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Just coir i cant get manure right now the fields are too frozen or muddy
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: cronicr]
#26443906 - 01/20/20 09:06 PM (4 years, 9 days ago) |
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I just inoculated 7 of the OP containers with LC. I'll use this msg as "proof of time" to see how much time has passed since inoculation.
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26463731 - 02/01/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some update.
The first 3 were the ones inoculated with an agar wedge. Are they 100% colonized? I doubt because of the base of the container seem uncolonized but it might be just because the substrate is "glued" to the base?
The other ones were inoculated with LC.
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien] 1
#26483900 - 02/13/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well they just started pinning a few days ago, they look like red caps pan cyans? I hope they grow bigger.
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26483908 - 02/13/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Interesting. They kinda remind me of tropicalis
Nice tek write up . I love those screw-top plastic containers. Such a good design.
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26483913 - 02/13/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks, i lost track of the variety of pan cyans i was growing. 
I need to do more testing with these containers. Next time i will pulverize all the grains instead of using whole grains.
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26483926 - 02/13/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Interesting. So next time youre going to powderize the grains? Im guessin u do this before PCing them?
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26483939 - 02/13/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah because the millet grain expanded with the moisture and the heat after the PC. I didn't want the substrate all the way up. So next time I'm using pulverized grain/manure/verm and another layer of manure/verm alone at the top, just so the pulverized grain is not exposed. Then i'll just open it and inoculate pouring LC.
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26509340 - 02/29/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
#26529843 - 03/11/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Panaeolus cyanescens TECATEPEC


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