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Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid.
    #26404536 - 12/28/19 11:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Inspired by this

This is a work in progress, i haven't actually done it but i can't see why it wouldn't work. I will update the thread as it goes.

I found the perfect size containers to fruit pan cyans cakes, this with the purpose to avoid the pasteurization of bulk substrate and the spawn2bulk colonization time. I also avoid the use of mycobags. The containers have a screw lid, my idea is to unscrew the lid enough to allow GE and apply parafilm but this could also work without parafilm since the loose screw lid is an obscure pathway for contams.

This is the container, i bought 6 of them for the test.





Like a BIG Petri dish :grin: I also bought 2 containers of the same brand but these are 4" deep for cubes, also the name of the brand is Cubasa :lol:. Same principle with petri dishes, when inoculating in the SAB or HOOD, you just open them in certain angle and form kind of a shield with the lid and just leave a gap for the inoculant to enter the container. This obviously make it difficult for the contams to land on a vertical angle. I'm not scared of the wideness of the container  :loogie:

These are the measurements of the container.

About 6 centimeters deep or a little bit less than 2.5 inches deep.



13 centimeters wide or a little bit more than 5 inches wide.



I'm thinking inoculating these by pouring LC from a media bottle but i will also try inoculating these with an agar wedge, i'm already saving work and time by avoiding all the bulk substrate process :shrug:

I will use Azura recipe for bulk substate of pan cyans.

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Asura said:

Substrate
Horse manure 675g
Milo 250g (WBS is fine) <- grain is not prepped in any way
Straw 75g
Vermiculite 100g
----------------------
Total weight 1100g

This leads to a dry weight of 1100g. And this assumes that everything (particularly manure) is BONE DRY.

Now for the water...

I added 1900g of water to the substrate. Nice math because this adds up to 3000g total weight.
I did that on purpose.

:thumbsup:





I still will have to pasteurize some casing substrate to use on top, i'm so lazy.  :nonono:

I'm thinking fruiting them in a martha but i will also experiment by adapting an easy put on/take off flexible plastic around the container to form a fruiting chamber and then make some holes? idk...

EDIT: Update, works great!

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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26404539 - 12/28/19 11:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26404599 - 12/28/19 12:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Should work great, it’s kinda like MacMerdin’s Simple Pan-Cakes


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: SFS96]
    #26404658 - 12/28/19 12:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Should work great, it’s kinda like MacMerdin’s Simple Pan-Cakes




Very similar, but with the screw lid you can open them way easier and you don't really have to make a hole for GE with a SFD on top. In theory, you can just unscrew the lid enough to allow GE. Unscrew the lid to inoculate, hold the lid as a "shield", less messier IMO.

I won't use a dry verm barrier since is not needed in my opinion. I rather use parafilm as a filtering material. But i'm sure it can work without parafilm as well. And with a dry verm barrier he must have used a syringe to inoculate.


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26404828 - 12/28/19 02:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Excited to see how these work out. I dig it


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26404908 - 12/28/19 03:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Mr. Alien said:
Inspired by this

This is a work in progress, i haven't actually done it but i can't see why it wouldn't work. I will update the thread as it goes.

I found the perfect size containers to fruit pan cyans cakes, this with the purpose to avoid the pasteurization of bulk substrate and the spawn2bulk colonization time. I also avoid the use of mycobags. The containers have a screw lid, my idea is to unscrew the lid enough to allow GE and apply parafilm but this could also work without parafilm since the loose screw lid is an obscure pathway for contams.

This is the container, i bought 6 of them for the test.





Like a BIG Petri dish :grin: I also bought 2 containers of the same brand but these are 4" deep for cubes, also the name of the brand is Cubasa :lol:. Same principle with petri dishes, when inoculating in the SAB or HOOD, you just open them in certain angle and form kind of a shield with the lid and just leave a gap for the inoculant to enter the container. This obviously make it difficult for the contams to land on a vertical angle. I'm not scared of the wideness of the container  :loogie:

These are the measurements of the container.

About 6 centimeters deep or a little bit less than 2.5 inches deep.



13 centimeters wide or a little bit more than 5 inches wide.



I'm thinking inoculating these by pouring LC from a media bottle but i will also try inoculating these with an agar wedge, i'm already saving work and time by avoiding all the bulk substrate process :shrug:

I will use Azura recipe for bulk substate of pan cyans.

Quote:

Asura said:

Substrate
Horse manure 675g
Milo 250g (WBS is fine) <- grain is not prepped in any way
Straw 75g
Vermiculite 100g
----------------------
Total weight 1100g

This leads to a dry weight of 1100g. And this assumes that everything (particularly manure) is BONE DRY.

Now for the water...

I added 1900g of water to the substrate. Nice math because this adds up to 3000g total weight.
I did that on purpose.

:thumbsup:





I still will have to pasteurize some casing substrate to use on top, i'm so lazy.  :nonono:

I'm thinking fruiting them in a martha but i will also experiment by adapting an easy put on/take off flexible plastic around the container to form a fruiting chamber and then make some holes? idk...




i have done similar shit before and i used the packaging from a bed comforter set it has a zipper and everything and worked rather well with some air slits/holes in it heres a pic of what im talking about im sure you can figure it out



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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: jcm4620]
    #26405176 - 12/28/19 06:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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i have done similar shit before and i used the packaging from a bed comforter set it has a zipper and everything and worked rather well with some air slits/holes in it heres a pic of what im talking about im sure you can figure it out






Not really :lol:

Is that autoclavable? I doubt. What you did there, did you just throw there some spawn and some bulk substrate?


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26405197 - 12/28/19 06:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)


Panaeolus cyanescens  inoculated via lc on coir/ millet flour.
I use these to test lc


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: cronicr]
    #26405202 - 12/28/19 06:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Panaeolus cyanescens  inoculated via lc on coir/ millet flour.
I use these to test lc




Exactly! No GE holes or SFD filters! You only unscrew/loose the lid as well?


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26405203 - 12/28/19 06:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yep crack it a bit and good to go


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: cronicr]
    #26405209 - 12/28/19 06:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have a bunch of those that I bought for agar before I just gave in and ordered 500 plates. I also have an old pan cyan (and others) MSS) I will give this a shot.


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26405212 - 12/28/19 06:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

wtf are u talking about????  where did u get that from?? im talking about the part that was said about setting up a martha and or playing around with something that you can put on and take off for a fruiting chamber type thing never at any point did i suggest loadin it up and pressure cooking it or anything along those lines thatd b the most retarded thing ever lol


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: jcm4620]
    #26405222 - 12/28/19 06:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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wtf are u talking about????  where did u get that from?? im talking about the part that was said about setting up a martha and or playing around with something that you can put on and take off for a fruiting chamber type thing never at any point did i suggest loadin it up and pressure cooking it or anything along those lines thatd b the most retarded thing ever




Ohhh haha i get you now. Yeah hahaha :lol:. You meant the part of the fruiting chamber, got ya.

Yeah, i don't want to put a bag on top, i want to put like a more rigid plastic that i can easily bend to adapt to the cylindrical structure of the pp5 container.


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26405234 - 12/28/19 06:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

ya i used trays and them inside of it with the zipper on the top it worked rather well for a ghetto ass fc i thought. lol load it full of bulk and throw it in the pc 😂😂😂 that was funny as hell i needed that laugh tonite


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: jcm4620]
    #26405238 - 12/28/19 06:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

so heres what u prolly want thank cron for it its in his post just above this one in the exotic thread


https://files.shroomery.org/files/19-52/758331435-20191228_173107.jpg


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26405253 - 12/28/19 06:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: jcm4620]
    #26405281 - 12/28/19 07:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I wish I had more tops Lol, that top was just from some won ton soup:lol:


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: jcm4620]
    #26405285 - 12/28/19 07:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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so heres what u prolly want thank cron for it its in his post just above this one in the exotic thread


https://files.shroomery.org/files/19-52/758331435-20191228_173107.jpg




Yep, thanks cron. I will probably do something similar. I will probably drill some holes tho.


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26405290 - 12/28/19 07:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No prob brutha another nice write up


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Re: Unmodified pp5 containers to fruit pan cyans with screw lid. [Re: cronicr]
    #26430104 - 01/12/20 06:00 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

Update? Did you start this one yet? And where did you get those containers?


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