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Is it safe for me to keep tripping?
    #26404221 - 12/28/19 07:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have slight visual distortions as a result of pyschedelic use. I get very brief afterimages that become not brief (lasting 10s or so) if I close my eyes after looking at very bright objects in the dark. If I stare at something for a while and let my eyes unfocus it starts to move. I have mild static and visual snow in the dark. Mild HPPD symptoms, basically.

The last time I tripped was a few weeks ago, the last time I smoked weed was a few days ago. Initially, the visual distortions were subsiding, but constant weed use kept them pretty apparent. After ceasing to smoke weed, they again started to reduce, but for the past two days or so they seem to have settled and won't go away.

Right now, it affects nothing in my life. I can read small text just fine, which wasn't the case in the days after my last trip (it was pretty hard but possible). I'm a bit worried though, that if I keep tripping, my vision could get fucked up forever?

I absolutely love tripping and I believe it has had a very positive affect on my mind and my health. I'd hate to have to give it up, but my vision is more important. What do you guys think?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404250 - 12/28/19 08:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Im no expert on this KJ. But I think you need to trip less. How often do you dose?

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26404259 - 12/28/19 08:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).

edit: I forgot to mention a 3g dose a day after my 675. I didn't realize there was cross tolerance beforehand, and the 3g did almost nothing for me in terms of visuals but it did put me in another headspace.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404279 - 12/28/19 08:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

High doses like that are much more likely to cause hppd or similar effects. I bet if you stay sober-including no pot-for a month or two it'll go back to normal. I wouldn't be to worried about it just lay off of them for a while.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404281 - 12/28/19 08:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Do you think there's risk of permanent damage if I keep tripping though? I don't really care if it just stays how it is.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404319 - 12/28/19 09:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Haven't we already been through this in another post?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404320 - 12/28/19 09:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I personally wouldn’t risk my sight KJ. Not even for the headspace. No disrespect to blind people, but I couldn’t imagine life without my sight. Not trying to spook you, KJ, just want you to stay safe. So I would lay off for at least a month and see how you feel. I no very little about HPPD, and whether it can become permanent, so without much research I don’t think I’d take the risk.

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404324 - 12/28/19 09:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you think there's risk of permanent damage if I keep tripping though? I don't really care if it just stays how it is.



I don't exactly know if I feel comfortable telling you yes or no cause I'm not a doctor or anything but I would say it's highly unlikely. I used to have chronic visual distortions after taking to much dxm and smoking DMT got rid of that. It sort of brought on it's own distortions for a while after the trip but then they faded. The dxm distortions never seemed to fade completely on there own and they were much more disorienting. I'm sure you'll be fine tripping again after taking a break. The only thing that psychedelics seem to cause sometimes is that for some people it can bring out latent psychological disorders. It's not really permanent "damage" though cause it's something that was already in your psyche. And getting it out is probably good cause it allows you to work through it. HPPD is the only long term thing you have to worry about but like I said truly long term or serious cases of hppd from psychedelics seem extremely rare. And ive actually heard several reports-one from paul stamets-of psychedelics improving visual function.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404333 - 12/28/19 09:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You may be okay with how it is now, but what if it were to progress and started to fuck with your quality of life? I would definitely set them down for a little bit and try and integrate everything as best you can.

I have zero judgement towards tripping frequently because I've went down the same hole. But, it does catch up with you and the mushrooms/brain will let you know when it's being flooded. Don't want anything to go south with you - rather be safe than sorry.

Those mushrooms aren't going anywhere. At the end of the day, this is all objective and you're going to do what you'd like to do, which you should. It's your body, your consciousness, your experience. But, from reading the previous advice on here as well, it may be in your best interest.

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404337 - 12/28/19 09:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

And maybe just take smaller doses if you decide to start tripping again in a month or so.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404343 - 12/28/19 09:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've always been intimidated to take a huge dose because of the thought of it ruining smaller doses. I can have a great time on a lower dose. Give me 3.5g or so and a nice walk in the woods and that's more therapy than most people receive in a year and thousands of dollars later.

But I feel like once you pass that certain threshold, smaller doses lose their "magic". I'm unsure.. as I've never taken a huge plunge. But it's no different than me taking 1 or 2g.. that doesn't do anything for me anymore after I experienced 3.5g+.

Which is why I believe when people do, they'll never take less than 5g+ again, and at that point you really can't be walking around.. baha.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404347 - 12/28/19 09:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’m thinking I’ll lay off pyschs for at least a month or so and see what happens with my vision. Not smoking weed for that long would be a huge burden though...


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26404356 - 12/28/19 09:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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But it's no different than me taking 1 or 2g.. that doesn't do anything for me anymore after I experienced 3.5g+.



I've taken an eighth and still love 1-2 gram trips.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404361 - 12/28/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Not smoking weed for that long would be a huge burden though...



Weed shouldn't be to much of an issue in that department. Maybe just try to cut back how much you use if anything for a while.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404365 - 12/28/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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But it's no different than me taking 1 or 2g.. that doesn't do anything for me anymore after I experienced 3.5g+.



I've taken an eighth and still love 1-2 gram trips.



Everyone is different I guess. I haven't taken a 2g trip in forever because I like to be kind of gripped by the balls. But I guess a little 1 or 2g trip would be okay for a little "microdose" "high" for the day haha.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26404378 - 12/28/19 09:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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But it's no different than me taking 1 or 2g.. that doesn't do anything for me anymore after I experienced 3.5g+.



I've taken an eighth and still love 1-2 gram trips.



Everyone is different I guess. I haven't taken a 2g trip in forever because I like to be kind of gripped by the balls. But I guess a little 1 or 2g trip would be okay for a little "microdose" "high" for the day haha.



Haha I feel you, everyone is different. Be careful though your balls might get swollen if you grip em hard to often lol.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404406 - 12/28/19 10:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).





oh yeah and stop lying. you didnt take 5g of mushrooms and 675ug lsd for your first psychedelic experiences.

if you did, you are beyond dumb.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404464 - 12/28/19 10:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I do know a heavy acid trip had me having visual distortion for about 2 months after. Im not sure the dosage but 5 hits of pure LSD had me fucked up for a while. Shrooms can have this affect too but it seams like not as long. It sounds like your still having after glow but I could be wrong. I’d probably lay off the psychedelics for a month like you said, except for weed I’d definitely smoke that lol


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404466 - 12/28/19 10:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).





oh yeah and stop lying. you didnt take 5g of mushrooms and 675ug lsd for your first psychedelic experiences.

if you did, you are beyond dumb.



Given your comment history in my threads I'm starting to wonder if you speak English


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: SFS96]
    #26404473 - 12/28/19 10:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I do know a heavy acid trip had me having visual distortion for about 2 months after. Im not sure the dosage but 5 hits of pure LSD had me fucked up for a while. Shrooms can have this affect too but it seams like not as long. It sounds like your still having after glow but I could be wrong. I’d probably lay off the psychedelics for a month like you said, except for weed I’d definitely smoke that lol



And it completely or almost completely (similar to where I am now) went away afterwards? If so that's great news for me


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