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Is it safe for me to keep tripping?
    #26404221 - 12/28/19 07:58 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have slight visual distortions as a result of pyschedelic use. I get very brief afterimages that become not brief (lasting 10s or so) if I close my eyes after looking at very bright objects in the dark. If I stare at something for a while and let my eyes unfocus it starts to move. I have mild static and visual snow in the dark. Mild HPPD symptoms, basically.

The last time I tripped was a few weeks ago, the last time I smoked weed was a few days ago. Initially, the visual distortions were subsiding, but constant weed use kept them pretty apparent. After ceasing to smoke weed, they again started to reduce, but for the past two days or so they seem to have settled and won't go away.

Right now, it affects nothing in my life. I can read small text just fine, which wasn't the case in the days after my last trip (it was pretty hard but possible). I'm a bit worried though, that if I keep tripping, my vision could get fucked up forever?

I absolutely love tripping and I believe it has had a very positive affect on my mind and my health. I'd hate to have to give it up, but my vision is more important. What do you guys think?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404250 - 12/28/19 08:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Im no expert on this KJ. But I think you need to trip less. How often do you dose?

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26404259 - 12/28/19 08:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).

edit: I forgot to mention a 3g dose a day after my 675. I didn't realize there was cross tolerance beforehand, and the 3g did almost nothing for me in terms of visuals but it did put me in another headspace.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404279 - 12/28/19 08:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

High doses like that are much more likely to cause hppd or similar effects. I bet if you stay sober-including no pot-for a month or two it'll go back to normal. I wouldn't be to worried about it just lay off of them for a while.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404281 - 12/28/19 08:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Do you think there's risk of permanent damage if I keep tripping though? I don't really care if it just stays how it is.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404319 - 12/28/19 09:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Haven't we already been through this in another post?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404320 - 12/28/19 09:18 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I personally wouldn’t risk my sight KJ. Not even for the headspace. No disrespect to blind people, but I couldn’t imagine life without my sight. Not trying to spook you, KJ, just want you to stay safe. So I would lay off for at least a month and see how you feel. I no very little about HPPD, and whether it can become permanent, so without much research I don’t think I’d take the risk.

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404324 - 12/28/19 09:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you think there's risk of permanent damage if I keep tripping though? I don't really care if it just stays how it is.



I don't exactly know if I feel comfortable telling you yes or no cause I'm not a doctor or anything but I would say it's highly unlikely. I used to have chronic visual distortions after taking to much dxm and smoking DMT got rid of that. It sort of brought on it's own distortions for a while after the trip but then they faded. The dxm distortions never seemed to fade completely on there own and they were much more disorienting. I'm sure you'll be fine tripping again after taking a break. The only thing that psychedelics seem to cause sometimes is that for some people it can bring out latent psychological disorders. It's not really permanent "damage" though cause it's something that was already in your psyche. And getting it out is probably good cause it allows you to work through it. HPPD is the only long term thing you have to worry about but like I said truly long term or serious cases of hppd from psychedelics seem extremely rare. And ive actually heard several reports-one from paul stamets-of psychedelics improving visual function.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404333 - 12/28/19 09:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You may be okay with how it is now, but what if it were to progress and started to fuck with your quality of life? I would definitely set them down for a little bit and try and integrate everything as best you can.

I have zero judgement towards tripping frequently because I've went down the same hole. But, it does catch up with you and the mushrooms/brain will let you know when it's being flooded. Don't want anything to go south with you - rather be safe than sorry.

Those mushrooms aren't going anywhere. At the end of the day, this is all objective and you're going to do what you'd like to do, which you should. It's your body, your consciousness, your experience. But, from reading the previous advice on here as well, it may be in your best interest.

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404337 - 12/28/19 09:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

And maybe just take smaller doses if you decide to start tripping again in a month or so.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404343 - 12/28/19 09:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've always been intimidated to take a huge dose because of the thought of it ruining smaller doses. I can have a great time on a lower dose. Give me 3.5g or so and a nice walk in the woods and that's more therapy than most people receive in a year and thousands of dollars later.

But I feel like once you pass that certain threshold, smaller doses lose their "magic". I'm unsure.. as I've never taken a huge plunge. But it's no different than me taking 1 or 2g.. that doesn't do anything for me anymore after I experienced 3.5g+.

Which is why I believe when people do, they'll never take less than 5g+ again, and at that point you really can't be walking around.. baha.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404347 - 12/28/19 09:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’m thinking I’ll lay off pyschs for at least a month or so and see what happens with my vision. Not smoking weed for that long would be a huge burden though...


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26404356 - 12/28/19 09:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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But it's no different than me taking 1 or 2g.. that doesn't do anything for me anymore after I experienced 3.5g+.



I've taken an eighth and still love 1-2 gram trips.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404361 - 12/28/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Not smoking weed for that long would be a huge burden though...



Weed shouldn't be to much of an issue in that department. Maybe just try to cut back how much you use if anything for a while.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404365 - 12/28/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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But it's no different than me taking 1 or 2g.. that doesn't do anything for me anymore after I experienced 3.5g+.



I've taken an eighth and still love 1-2 gram trips.



Everyone is different I guess. I haven't taken a 2g trip in forever because I like to be kind of gripped by the balls. But I guess a little 1 or 2g trip would be okay for a little "microdose" "high" for the day haha.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26404378 - 12/28/19 09:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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But it's no different than me taking 1 or 2g.. that doesn't do anything for me anymore after I experienced 3.5g+.



I've taken an eighth and still love 1-2 gram trips.



Everyone is different I guess. I haven't taken a 2g trip in forever because I like to be kind of gripped by the balls. But I guess a little 1 or 2g trip would be okay for a little "microdose" "high" for the day haha.



Haha I feel you, everyone is different. Be careful though your balls might get swollen if you grip em hard to often lol.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404406 - 12/28/19 10:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).





oh yeah and stop lying. you didnt take 5g of mushrooms and 675ug lsd for your first psychedelic experiences.

if you did, you are beyond dumb.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404464 - 12/28/19 10:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I do know a heavy acid trip had me having visual distortion for about 2 months after. Im not sure the dosage but 5 hits of pure LSD had me fucked up for a while. Shrooms can have this affect too but it seams like not as long. It sounds like your still having after glow but I could be wrong. I’d probably lay off the psychedelics for a month like you said, except for weed I’d definitely smoke that lol


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404466 - 12/28/19 10:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).





oh yeah and stop lying. you didnt take 5g of mushrooms and 675ug lsd for your first psychedelic experiences.

if you did, you are beyond dumb.



Given your comment history in my threads I'm starting to wonder if you speak English


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: SFS96]
    #26404473 - 12/28/19 10:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I do know a heavy acid trip had me having visual distortion for about 2 months after. Im not sure the dosage but 5 hits of pure LSD had me fucked up for a while. Shrooms can have this affect too but it seams like not as long. It sounds like your still having after glow but I could be wrong. I’d probably lay off the psychedelics for a month like you said, except for weed I’d definitely smoke that lol



And it completely or almost completely (similar to where I am now) went away afterwards? If so that's great news for me


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404532 - 12/28/19 11:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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you didnt take 5g of mushrooms and 675ug lsd for your first psychedelic experiences.



Shit I kind of missed that those were his first psychedelic experiences. Theres your problem KJ. That's a hell of a lot for your first times.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404564 - 12/28/19 11:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Those weren’t my first. My first was 300, then 150, then 450, then 675. Then 3g, then 5g.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404587 - 12/28/19 12:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I do know a heavy acid trip had me having visual distortion for about 2 months after. Im not sure the dosage but 5 hits of pure LSD had me fucked up for a while. Shrooms can have this affect too but it seams like not as long. It sounds like your still having after glow but I could be wrong. I’d probably lay off the psychedelics for a month like you said, except for weed I’d definitely smoke that lol



And it completely or almost completely (similar to where I am now) went away afterwards? If so that's great news for me



Yeah it went away. Honestly I don’t do LSD anymore because it was hard for me to not do too much because I always bought 100hit sheets. I’d get way out of control sometimes on a acid binge and I’d put the drug over everything. It caused more problems for me then it helped with so I promised to never do it again. When I was doing it often it would get visuals even when I was at work and sober. Once I stopped I’d say it took a month or longer for my visual perception to return to normal.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26404786 - 12/28/19 02:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I absolutely love tripping and I believe it has had a very positive affect on my mind and my health. I'd hate to have to give it up, but my vision is more important. What do you guys think?






Take this however you will....

....but when it comes to "HPPD" (after being around this place for over a decade now), to me it seems that it is mostly people that are new to psychedelics that talk about "HPPD" more so than those that have been working with psychedelics for years and have lots of trips under the belt.

Like I don't often hear from people that have been working with psychedelics for years/decades, those that have 100's or 1000's of trips, talk about or being concerned about HPPD......it is mostly folks that are new to psychedelics that talk about HPPD.

If HPPD was a major issue with psychedelics...I feel a lot more of the "old heads" and ones with lots of trips over the years would be the ones talking about it. But it's mostly newbies that talk about it.



I do feel psychedelics can, to an extent, leave a persisting impact on one's visual perception.....but I also feel a BIG part of it is people are just more aware of their visual perception (and sensory perception in general) after having their first several trips and they are noticing things they haven't noticed before.



For myself.....I've been working with psychedelics for about 11 years now, have had around 250+ trips (LSD, mushrooms, mescaline, DMT), I do feel my visual perception has been slightly altered but it's not something that bothers or affects me much. It's something that has not been on my mind since basically the first year I started to work with psychedelics lol, and I do not feel like I'm impacting my visual perception more and more with every trip.





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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: openmind]
    #26404804 - 12/28/19 02:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’m not offended by that, I recognize that I’m new and I have a lot to learn from people who are more experienced. I do hope you’re right :smile:

Thanks for the reassurance


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404819 - 12/28/19 02:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Korean Jesus is the type to believe his dealer that he has 300ug hits.

I'm just saying man..learn to swim before jumping in the pool.

Open mind is right. I wish I had it in me to be so nice when telling a noob he is totally exaggerating.

What next.. serotonin syndrome?

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404827 - 12/28/19 02:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Is it ur hobby to stalk my posts and make inane comments?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26404833 - 12/28/19 02:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'll second OM's view on HPPD. I think it's more of a delusional reaction to your enhanced perceptions.
I do have 'visual snow', and, at first, I was really freaked out that I had permanently scarred my optic nerve or some shit like that.
But, after abstaining for even a little bit of time, I noticed that my sensitivity to the static had gone down.
Fast forward to some odd hundreds of trips later, I still have that static, and it's still just as dependent on the sensitivity of my perception.

Later I found out that many of my family members have different sorts of migraine disorders - those who've not taken drugs included - and that 'visual snow' is included in those migraine disorders.
I also get ocular migraines... you wanna talk about feeling like your vision has been permanently damaged. However, I don't even get the usual painful headache style of migraine, but my father is crippled by them from time to time.

Try taking better care of yourself. A diet predominately plant-based with well-sourced meats. Exercise. Mental well-being exercises like meditation or just proper relaxation. Adequate rest. Abstinence from toxic substances. Breathing. All of those things will help to relieve of negative lifestyle side-effects.

It's easy to sensationalize drug use on a drug culture forum. But it will fuck you up (not in the 'cool' way) if you don't use them with moderation. Everyone's moderation is different.

edit: side note: stop staring at shit like that in your signature. Look at patterns in nature and geometry if you want to have some optic awe.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404839 - 12/28/19 02:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Your attitude was "you can't tell me anything" when you initially signed up here. You asked mods for drugs. Your sig and avatar along with your little headline are all so noobish. You are just extremely noob right now and you are taking doses like you are not and I don't want anyone getting hurt and I don't want you putting out any information that gets anyone hurt. Look, that behavior put me in 3 psych wards. I could have killed someone or myself. I don't want to see anything crazy happen to you or anyone else. Have fun but don't be a damn fool.

And you don't just go from having one or two regular doses to jumping up to 600+ug acid and 5g mushrooms. That's not how it works. Just because you tripped a couple times on regular doses doesn't mean you are ready for the big ones. SLOW DOWN your brain isn't ready


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Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404926 - 12/28/19 03:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

"That's not how it works" according to whom? Look, I respect that you're an experienced pyschonaut. But I can't take you seriously when you use bad faith arguments like me "asking mods for drugs," when you're the one who convinced me to do it. And for the record:

Yeah, dumb of me. But keep it real.

I'd love to take you seriously but the vast majority of your comments on my posts are simply trolling. Just chill man, lol. If you don't like me you don't have to give me advice :smile:


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404966 - 12/28/19 03:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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And you don't just go from having one or two regular doses to jumping up to 600+ug acid and 5g mushrooms. That's not how it works. Just because you tripped a couple times on regular doses doesn't mean you are ready for the big ones. SLOW DOWN your brain isn't ready



I agree with this. Not a great idea. Maybe it ended up working out for you-kind of sounds like it didn't exactly though-But it's wreckless. I had multiple doses at a half eighth and below before I ever took an eighth. It's just not really safe to jump up so quick. Ive done wreckless things with drugs to so i get the mindset but you really should've slowed it down.


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    #26404981 - 12/28/19 04:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I decided I will wait a while before tripping again. Either until my "HPPD" symptoms are gone or until I'm ready to deal with more intense visual distortions. I'll try to smoke weed seldomly to accelerate the improvement process.

I'm glad others have said these symptoms usually go away and I'm optimistic that this is just a minor speedbump in my psychedelic journey.

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    #26404984 - 12/28/19 04:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Moral of the story would be just to relax and see what happens. Assuming things will get better overtime. But, like OM said earlier, you may now have a better understanding of your perception and bypassing filters that were set up prior to a trip.

I defiently feel like mushrooms/lsd break down filtered barriers that allow us to see what's right in front of us.. but we're unable to see it with our filtered eyes. Pretty nuts when you really think about it.


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    #26405184 - 12/28/19 06:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It is hard for me to understand if you are concerned or just playing, KJ.  You had a thread a few weeks ago about HPPD and your "concerns".  The overwhelming view was that is was just afterglow and you should lay off tripping and weed and see if it all resolved.

But now you are still taking part, and more frequently than you said you would.  So you can't be that concerned really?

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    #26405261 - 12/28/19 07:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).

edit: I forgot to mention a 3g dose a day after my 675. I didn't realize there was cross tolerance beforehand, and the 3g did almost nothing for me in terms of visuals but it did put me in another headspace.




I find this hard to believe, who tested your tabs? what experience with LSD do you have to measure what 100ug let along 450ug should do?...OH 450ug was your first dose? uh huh....i think i see what is happening here...
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Korean Jesus is the type to believe his dealer that he has 300ug hits.

I'm just saying man..learn to swim before jumping in the pool.

Open mind is right. I wish I had it in me to be so nice when telling a noob he is totally exaggerating.

What next.. serotonin syndrome?

Sorry..I couldn't resist




OH shit so does someone else...
I try to be nice, but this thread is suspect. and reading OPs other posts its nothing more than bullshit.

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Is it ur hobby to stalk my posts and make inane comments?




No one is stalking u, but some users when active will come across many posts from the same user. When these posts raise red flags; refer to above.

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Korean Jesus said:
"That's not how it works" according to whom? Look, I respect that you're an experienced pyschonaut. But I can't take you seriously when you use bad faith arguments like me "asking mods for drugs," when you're the one who convinced me to do it. And for the record:

Yeah, dumb of me. But keep it real.

I'd love to take you seriously but the vast majority of your comments on my posts are simply trolling. Just chill man, lol. If you don't like me you don't have to give me advice :smile:




Umm i have no idea about the accusations being described here, but if you were actually dumb enough to PM a mod with the intent of procuring DMT then wow...
No one is trolling you, but the shit you are saying(in this thread and others) shows exactly how inexperienced and foolish you are.
Maybe stick around and read more before you decide to post. You sound like a :underage:.

Bill can be short and sometimes rude, but in my browsing of the forum he seems to be a straight shooter.

again u claim 450ug was your first acid trip and 5g was your first mushrooms trip. Also your experiencing "slight visual distortions" and are "thinking of" laying of psychedelics.
Bitch please, just no.
:nojustno:

Damn my bullshit detector is getting some work in today.


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    #26405265 - 12/28/19 07:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

How much acid have you done? That’s the one that can really leave you with persisting visual stuff. I did a a lot of acid when I was 18-19 years old and for awhile after had some weird visual stuff going on. It’s mostly gone away but part of it is indeed permanent...it’s nothing too distracting though, very used to it now and don’t even notice it.

I don’t want to say as a fact that mushrooms couldn’t cause the same thing, but I’ve since taken many, many, more high dose mushroom trips than I ever did LSD. & I’ve gotten some visual phenomena in the days after said mushroom trips, but it always subsides/goes away. If you are mostly a person that trips shrooms, I’m willing to bet whatever is going on is going to go away before long. Its smart not to trip right now if you are worried about it though. The mushrooms will always be there later.


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    #26405275 - 12/28/19 07:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Korean Jesus said:
Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).

edit: I forgot to mention a 3g dose a day after my 675. I didn't realize there was cross tolerance beforehand, and the 3g did almost nothing for me in terms of visuals but it did put me in another headspace.




I find this hard to believe, who tested your tabs? what experience with LSD do you have to measure what 100ug let along 450ug should do?...OH 450ug was your first dose? uh huh....i think i see what is happening here...
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Korean Jesus is the type to believe his dealer that he has 300ug hits.

I'm just saying man..learn to swim before jumping in the pool.

Open mind is right. I wish I had it in me to be so nice when telling a noob he is totally exaggerating.

What next.. serotonin syndrome?

Sorry..I couldn't resist




OH shit so does someone else...
I try to be nice, but this thread is suspect. and reading OPs other posts its nothing more than bullshit.

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Korean Jesus said:
Is it ur hobby to stalk my posts and make inane comments?




No one is stalking u, but some users when active will come across many posts from the same user. When these posts raise red flags; refer to above.

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Korean Jesus said:
"That's not how it works" according to whom? Look, I respect that you're an experienced pyschonaut. But I can't take you seriously when you use bad faith arguments like me "asking mods for drugs," when you're the one who convinced me to do it. And for the record:

Yeah, dumb of me. But keep it real.

I'd love to take you seriously but the vast majority of your comments on my posts are simply trolling. Just chill man, lol. If you don't like me you don't have to give me advice :smile:




Umm i have no idea about the accusations being described here, but if you were actually dumb enough to PM a mod with the intent of procuring DMT then wow...
No one is trolling you, but the shit you are saying(in this thread and others) shows exactly how inexperienced and foolish you are.
Maybe stick around and read more before you decide to post. You sound like a :underage:.

Bill can be short and sometimes rude, but in my browsing of the forum he seems to be a straight shooter.

again u claim 450ug was your first acid trip and 5g was your first mushrooms trip. Also your experiencing "slight visual distortions" and are "thinking of" laying of psychedelics.
Bitch please, just no.
:nojustno:

Damn my bullshit detector is getting some work in today.



Do you not know how to read? 450 was my third dose... jesus christ man, if you’re that dumb, just stop contributing. Better to shut up and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt...


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26405278 - 12/28/19 07:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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How much acid have you done? That’s the one that can really leave you with persisting visual stuff. I did a a lot of acid when I was 18-19 years old and for awhile after had some weird visual stuff going on. It’s mostly gone away but part of it is indeed permanent...it’s nothing too distracting though, very used to it now and don’t even notice it.

I don’t want to say as a fact that mushrooms couldn’t cause the same thing, but I’ve since taken many, many, more high dose mushroom trips than I ever did LSD. & I’ve gotten some visual phenomena in the days after said mushroom trips, but it always subsides/goes away. If you are mostly a person that trips shrooms, I’m willing to bet whatever is going on is going to go away before long. Its smart not to trip right now if you are worried about it though. The mushrooms will always be there later.



All my HPPD research seems to indicate that LSD causes it while shrooms dont, although boards like this seem to indicate that shrooms can cause it. Regardless I think I’ll lay off the crazy acid doses bc now that I think about it that’s when the visual effects started occurring. Shrooms seem like the better bet for large doses, more powerful & more introspective anyways.


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    #26405282 - 12/28/19 07:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).





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Those weren’t my first. My first was 300, then 150, then 450, then 675. Then 3g, then 5g.




:facepalm: if you knew English you would understand why this is suspect.

also if this account is any bit of true(its not, but ill entertain it) then stop doing drugs so often. Space your psychedelic use out to at least 1 week, 2 preferably, 4 or more to get the most out of it.


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    #26405294 - 12/28/19 07:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you not know how to read? 450 was my third dose... jesus christ man, if you’re that dumb, just stop contributing. Better to shut up and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt...




feel free to read my addendum, i did not see that post while reading through and becoming increasingly aggravated at your uninformed an sensationalized posts.

I will clear this up for you... Your 300ug, 450ug, or 675ug first acid dose or 3g or 5g first shroom dose(whatever the fuck it is) could be believable if the text that preceded and followed wasn't so silly.
Im only reacting to the shit you say bud, i have nothing against you and wish you well, but this "mild hppd" shit you claim is silly along with the dosages.

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    #26405297 - 12/28/19 07:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Korean Jesus said:
Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).





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Those weren’t my first. My first was 300, then 150, then 450, then 675. Then 3g, then 5g.




:facepalm: if you knew English you would understand why this is suspect.

also if this account is any bit of true(its not, but ill entertain it) then stop doing drugs so often. Space your psychedelic use out to at least 1 week, 2 preferably, 4 or more to get the most out of it.




Maybe, just maybe, spend only two seconds reading my posts? I haven’t tripped in almost a month and I’m not planning on tripping for at least another month. If you don’t believe my account is “any bit of true” (lol?) go read my trip reports – if you’re literate, that is.


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    #26405301 - 12/28/19 07:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you not know how to read? 450 was my third dose... jesus christ man, if you’re that dumb, just stop contributing. Better to shut up and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt...




feel free to read my addendum, i did not see that post while reading through and becoming increasingly aggravated at your uninformed an sensationalized posts.

I will clear this up for you... Your 300ug, 450ug, or 675ug first acid dose or 3g or 5g first shroom dose(whatever the fuck it is) could be believable if the text that preceded and followed wasn't so silly.
Im only reacting to the shit you say bud, i have nothing against you and wish you well, but this "mild hppd" shit you claim is silly along with the dosages.

And now im arguing with and idiot and being beaten with experience eh?



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Do you not know how to read? 450 was my third dose... jesus christ man, if you’re that dumb, just stop contributing. Better to shut up and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt...




feel free to read my addendum, i did not see that post while reading through and becoming increasingly aggravated at your uninformed an sensationalized posts.

I will clear this up for you... Your 300ug, 450ug, or 675ug first acid dose or 3g or 5g first shroom dose(whatever the fuck it is) could be believable if the text that preceded and followed wasn't so silly.
Im only reacting to the shit you say bud, i have nothing against you and wish you well, but this "mild hppd" shit you claim is silly along with the dosages.

And now im arguing with and idiot and being beaten with experience eh?



Congrats bro, you’ve gone from annoying to actually mildly amusing. I’m literally being told that my trips didn’t happen by an experienced psychonaut who won’t even read my posts 😂. Maybe I should stop completely if pyschs will fry my brain like they did yours 🤔

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26405313 - 12/28/19 07:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Psilotyl said:
How much acid have you done? That’s the one that can really leave you with persisting visual stuff. I did a a lot of acid when I was 18-19 years old and for awhile after had some weird visual stuff going on. It’s mostly gone away but part of it is indeed permanent...it’s nothing too distracting though, very used to it now and don’t even notice it.

I don’t want to say as a fact that mushrooms couldn’t cause the same thing, but I’ve since taken many, many, more high dose mushroom trips than I ever did LSD. & I’ve gotten some visual phenomena in the days after said mushroom trips, but it always subsides/goes away. If you are mostly a person that trips shrooms, I’m willing to bet whatever is going on is going to go away before long. Its smart not to trip right now if you are worried about it though. The mushrooms will always be there later.



All my HPPD research seems to indicate that LSD causes it while shrooms dont, although boards like this seem to indicate that shrooms can cause it. Regardless I think I’ll lay off the crazy acid doses bc now that I think about it that’s when the visual effects started occurring. Shrooms seem like the better bet for large doses, more powerful & more introspective anyways.




There you go. I definitely think LSD has a shelf life. At a certain point you just get it and have learned all (or most there) is to learn. Plus the whole “acid casualty” thing is definitely real, doesn’t always happen from one massive does either but can over time with a lot of use. I’ve seen that. I’m a minor case, lol.

Put it away and do it again in another decade or two, when you’re a different person type thing - that’s where I’m still at.

Mushrooms on the other hand are continually, endlessly fascinating. There seems to be no end. LSD is not as nuanced of a substance. My understanding is that LSD basically just inundates most the 5-HT2 & 5-HT1 receptors, whereas psilocin is more selective, hitting some of the same ones but not all, and in different affinity. I’m certainly no expert on all that though.

Overall I personally just find psilocybin mushrooms to be a little bit more sophisticated and more enjoyable of a psychedelic. More potential. A lot of psychic energy that can really make things interesting and powerful in novel ways. I’m continually surprised by them. That’s just me though.


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    #26405323 - 12/28/19 08:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

And what’s that dude’s problem?

Babylon are you mad yo city fell? Missing the gardens? The Persian hoes of olde? Disappointed Alexander the Great died in it and was never able to make it his capitol? Mad Saddam Hussain built a bunch of weird shit there?

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26405326 - 12/28/19 08:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).

edit: I forgot to mention a 3g dose a day after my 675. I didn't realize there was cross tolerance beforehand, and the 3g did almost nothing for me in terms of visuals but it did put me in another headspace.




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Maybe, just maybe, spend only two seconds reading my posts? I haven’t tripped in almost a month and I’m not planning on tripping for at least another month. If you don’t believe my account is “any bit of true” (lol?) go read my trip reports – if you’re literate, that is.




Again you contradict yourself...
I'd rather not argue all night, but i have 6 beers left so lets go buddy :rofl:

All I'm saying is your posts don"t add up, your relatively inexperienced and making some claims that really grind my gears.

I have no doubt HPPD is a real condition. I doubt you suffer from it.

I do however doubt you took 675ug, 450ug, 300ug of LSD as your first dose and are here to talk about and give your advice to others after less than 2 months.

My first LSD dose was 100ug-150ug(tabs not tested, but that WOW was strong) my first mushroom dose was 3g-3.5g of some albino cubensis, and both rocked me to my core.

The last thing I thought about was posting about it on an online forum. It took a good amount of time to make any sense of those experiences. Although I did take more of each a month or so later I never thought "I should sign up for the shroomery and claim i have HPPD because i had my world rocked and now im seeing minor distortions and sprites in my vision".

FWIW these experiences took place before i registered here, but i am no "experienced psychonaut" there are many here who could eat more acid, shrooms, smoke more deems, etc. And there are many who have.

I will say again I have nothing against you, but you story seems at the very least "cloudy".


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    #26405330 - 12/28/19 08:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Korean Jesus said:
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Psilotyl said:
How much acid have you done? That’s the one that can really leave you with persisting visual stuff. I did a a lot of acid when I was 18-19 years old and for awhile after had some weird visual stuff going on. It’s mostly gone away but part of it is indeed permanent...it’s nothing too distracting though, very used to it now and don’t even notice it.

I don’t want to say as a fact that mushrooms couldn’t cause the same thing, but I’ve since taken many, many, more high dose mushroom trips than I ever did LSD. & I’ve gotten some visual phenomena in the days after said mushroom trips, but it always subsides/goes away. If you are mostly a person that trips shrooms, I’m willing to bet whatever is going on is going to go away before long. Its smart not to trip right now if you are worried about it though. The mushrooms will always be there later.



All my HPPD research seems to indicate that LSD causes it while shrooms dont, although boards like this seem to indicate that shrooms can cause it. Regardless I think I’ll lay off the crazy acid doses bc now that I think about it that’s when the visual effects started occurring. Shrooms seem like the better bet for large doses, more powerful & more introspective anyways.




There you go. I definitely think LSD has a shelf life. At a certain point you just get it and have learned all (or most there) is to learn. Plus the whole “acid casualty” thing is definitely real, doesn’t always happen from one massive does either but can over time with a lot of use. I’ve seen that. I’m a minor case, lol.

Put it away and do it again in another decade or two, when you’re a different person type thing - that’s where I’m still at.

Mushrooms on the other hand are continually, endlessly fascinating. There seems to be no end. LSD is not as nuanced of a substance. My understanding is that LSD basically just inundates most the 5-HT2 & 5-HT1 receptors, whereas psilocin is more selective, hitting some of the same ones but not all, and in different affinity. I’m certainly no expert on all that though.

Overall I personally just find psilocybin mushrooms to be a little bit more sophisticated and more enjoyable of a psychedelic. More potential. A lot of psychic energy that can really make things interesting and powerful in novel ways. I’m continually surprised by them. That’s just me though.




That’s interesting from a biological perspective. I do find that acid seems to be easier on the mind though, as I’ve never felt the same kind of terror on acid  that I have on shrooms (though neither have I felt the insane euphoria, more like a mellowed out euphoria). To me it simply feels less powerful - it doesn’t really engage the mind as much. It’s probably anecdotal though, I bet you could find people here who say the opposite


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    #26405335 - 12/28/19 08:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Congrats bro, you’ve gone from annoying to actually mildly amusing. I’m literally being told that my trips didn’t happen by an experienced psychonaut who won’t even read my posts 😂. Maybe I should stop completely if pyschs will fry my brain like they did yours 🤔

Stop necroing a dead thread. Can the mods just close this before it becomes a repeat of vaginal microdosing?





Right if you wanna grow up to be just like me then keep going buddy:lol:

I didn't doubt you tripped, i just doubt you have any idea how to gauge potency with no former experience. IE if you friend/dealer tells you a tab is 100ug it probably isn't.

Close the thread why? Its not dead, your just getting called out.

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And what’s that dude’s problem?

Babylon are you mad yo city fell? Missing the gardens? The Persian hoes of olde? Disappointed Alexander the Great died in it and was never able to make it his capitol? Mad Saddam Hussain built a bunch of weird shit there?

I got more history/semi-current event jokes for ya to help you feel better if you need em bro. Hmu. Text it 1-800-BABYLON




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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26405337 - 12/28/19 08:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).

edit: I forgot to mention a 3g dose a day after my 675. I didn't realize there was cross tolerance beforehand, and the 3g did almost nothing for me in terms of visuals but it did put me in another headspace.




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Maybe, just maybe, spend only two seconds reading my posts? I haven’t tripped in almost a month and I’m not planning on tripping for at least another month. If you don’t believe my account is “any bit of true” (lol?) go read my trip reports – if you’re literate, that is.




Again you contradict yourself...
I'd rather not argue all night, but i have 6 beers left so lets go buddy :rofl:

All I'm saying is your posts don"t add up, your relatively inexperienced and making some claims that really grind my gears.

I have no doubt HPPD is a real condition. I doubt you suffer from it.

I do however doubt you took 675ug, 450ug, 300ug of LSD as your first dose and are here to talk about and give your advice to others after less than 2 months.

My first LSD dose was 100ug-150ug(tabs not tested, but that WOW was strong) my first mushroom dose was 3g-3.5g of some albino cubensis, and both rocked me to my core.

The last thing I thought about was posting about it on an online forum. It took a good amount of time to make any sense of those experiences. Although I did take more of each a month or so later I never thought "I should sign up for the shroomery and claim i have HPPD because i had my world rocked and now im seeing minor distortions and sprites in my vision".

FWIW these experiences took place before i registered here, but i am no "experienced psychonaut" there are many here who could eat more acid, shrooms, smoke more deems, etc. And there are many who have.

I will say again I have nothing against you, but you story seems at the very least "cloudy".



Look, there’s no point in arguing with you about this. If my posts seem suspicious to you so be it, doesn’t really affect either of our lives. It’s a little bit insulting to act like my experiences don’t exist but I’m not going to pretend I have it even as close to as bad as people with clinical HPPD so I don’t really have the right to complain. All I’m saying is that you can keep your thoughts to yourself.

By the way, I browsed this forum BEFORE my first trip. I did a lot of research and came across it. After tripping I was very excited to share my experiences and compare them with others’. Maybe we just have different personalities? Not everyone in the world is exactly the same as you :wink:

And I suggested the thread be closed because our argument is pointless and annoying to anyone else reading the thread. And I’m not mature enough just to ignore you.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26405346 - 12/28/19 08:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Congrats bro, you’ve gone from annoying to actually mildly amusing. I’m literally being told that my trips didn’t happen by an experienced psychonaut who won’t even read my posts 😂. Maybe I should stop completely if pyschs will fry my brain like they did yours 🤔

Stop necroing a dead thread. Can the mods just close this before it becomes a repeat of vaginal microdosing?





Right if you wanna grow up to be just like me then keep going buddy:lol:

I didn't doubt you tripped, i just doubt you have any idea how to gauge potency with no former experience. IE if you friend/dealer tells you a tab is 100ug it probably isn't.

Close the thread why? Its not dead, your just getting called out.

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And what’s that dude’s problem?

Babylon are you mad yo city fell? Missing the gardens? The Persian hoes of olde? Disappointed Alexander the Great died in it and was never able to make it his capitol? Mad Saddam Hussain built a bunch of weird shit there?

I got more history/semi-current event jokes for ya to help you feel better if you need em bro. Hmu. Text it 1-800-BABYLON




Ahhh shit i like this guy! :borat:

I need more jokes, but my cell service is shit here. Lay em on me!




Haha 😂

Lemme tell you, I got problems. Its CHOAS on the mycology front rn...my FUCKING LC’s again man. They can be so damn rude. I mean you’d THINK because they are honey they’d sweet, but NO. Just the other day, one of them got REALLY stirred up.

And shit, my Martha. Fuck. I’m not sure what to tell myself about all that goes on with her. She’s always had a foul mouth. Multiple racks, somehow she ain’t hot doe. She even did time for trying to rig in with the New York Spore Exchange (NYSE). This is common knowledge.

You’d think I’d learn, but no. It is what it is. I’ll be a horses ass, shit out and colonized by mycellium, fruited into a damn cubensis and eaten by some madman. I am doomed. DOOMED


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26405369 - 12/28/19 08:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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How much acid have you done? That’s the one that can really leave you with persisting visual stuff. I did a a lot of acid when I was 18-19 years old and for awhile after had some weird visual stuff going on. It’s mostly gone away but part of it is indeed permanent...it’s nothing too distracting though, very used to it now and don’t even notice it.

I don’t want to say as a fact that mushrooms couldn’t cause the same thing, but I’ve since taken many, many, more high dose mushroom trips than I ever did LSD. & I’ve gotten some visual phenomena in the days after said mushroom trips, but it always subsides/goes away. If you are mostly a person that trips shrooms, I’m willing to bet whatever is going on is going to go away before long. Its smart not to trip right now if you are worried about it though. The mushrooms will always be there later.



All my HPPD research seems to indicate that LSD causes it while shrooms dont, although boards like this seem to indicate that shrooms can cause it. Regardless I think I’ll lay off the crazy acid doses bc now that I think about it that’s when the visual effects started occurring. Shrooms seem like the better bet for large doses, more powerful & more introspective anyways.




There you go. I definitely think LSD has a shelf life. At a certain point you just get it and have learned all (or most there) is to learn. Plus the whole “acid casualty” thing is definitely real, doesn’t always happen from one massive does either but can over time with a lot of use. I’ve seen that. I’m a minor case, lol.

Put it away and do it again in another decade or two, when you’re a different person type thing - that’s where I’m still at.

Mushrooms on the other hand are continually, endlessly fascinating. There seems to be no end. LSD is not as nuanced of a substance. My understanding is that LSD basically just inundates most the 5-HT2 & 5-HT1 receptors, whereas psilocin is more selective, hitting some of the same ones but not all, and in different affinity. I’m certainly no expert on all that though.

Overall I personally just find psilocybin mushrooms to be a little bit more sophisticated and more enjoyable of a psychedelic. More potential. A lot of psychic energy that can really make things interesting and powerful in novel ways. I’m continually surprised by them. That’s just me though.




That’s interesting from a biological perspective. I do find that acid seems to be easier on the mind though, as I’ve never felt the same kind of terror on acid  that I have on shrooms (though neither have I felt the insane euphoria, more like a mellowed out euphoria). To me it simply feels less powerful - it doesn’t really engage the mind as much. It’s probably anecdotal though, I bet you could find people here who say the opposite




Up the dose. It’s cleaner up there and there is immense power. 5g-7g good cubensis, alone in darkness. It’s almost like a different drug. Maybe you have experience with this though for all I know and it just affects you differently than it does me. Psychedelics are different for everyone kinda like you said. But if you’ve yet to experiment with the higher psilocybin levels it’s certainly an amazing thing indeed that I highly recommend. Just mind your set, setting, and all that jazz of course. Oddly enough there is somehow less “scary shit” potential in the high dose, or so I’ve found. All my difficult trips were on like 2.5-4g


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26405371 - 12/28/19 08:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Look, there’s no point in arguing with you about this. If my posts seem suspicious to you so be it, doesn’t really affect either of our lives.




Right, but i stand by my words.

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It’s a little bit insulting to act like my experiences don’t exist




I never said they didn't, i simply explained my view that your claims seem exaggerated or uniformed, but what do i know you could be a freak of nature who can eat a tenstrip with no tolerance and not even flinch... it is possible:notsureif:

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but I’m not going to pretend I have it even as close to as bad as people with clinical HPPD so I don’t really have the right to complain.




Bingo! Now we get to the point at hand. Slight visual distortions and even more intense visual phenomenon have occurred in my own experiences after partaking in psychedelics, i would never claim that to be HPPD as they last a very short time(as you stated with your case) or are almost unnoticeable. A long break will make these occurrences disappear.

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All I’m saying is that you can keep your thoughts to yourself.




:hahthatsrich: Nope this is a public forum. If you don't like being called out for exaggerating circumstances then take your own advice and "shut up". Or retreat to your "safe place".

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By the way, I browsed this forum BEFORE my first trip. I did a lot of research and came across it. After tripping I was very excited to share my experiences and compare them with others’. Maybe we just have different personalities? Not everyone in the world is exactly the same as you :wink:




Same here, i spent countless hours reading posts here, learning to grow shrooms, dosages, what to expect, reviewing extraction teks, etc. What got me to finally post was my failure to breakthrough with DMT. Shroomery members quickly and politely assisted me to my goal.

We definitely have different personalities.

Of course noone is the same as me, but claiming HPPD and posting about it everywhere you can, Especially when your just barely a month away from your last dose, will rub some people the wrong way.

If you truly are taking the doses you claim at the frequency you claim then stop! You are wasting your money and energy taking psychedelics every 3 days. It takes a week for tolerance to drop to a reasonable level, many like to space it by at least a month, some even reserve it to annually or bi-annually.

I could eat a 10 strip and have it rock my world, to get the same experience 3 days later would take at least 30hits, most likely a lot more. If it makes you feel better to claim heroic doses then go ahead and waste you acid/shrooms dosing regularly, you will be able to eat more, but you will not go any deeper.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26405374 - 12/28/19 08:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Haha 😂

Lemme tell you, I got problems. Its CHOAS on the mycology front rn...my FUCKING LC’s again man. They can be so damn rude. I mean you’d THINK because they are honey they’d sweet, but NO. Just the other day, one of them got REALLY stirred up.

And shit, my Martha. Fuck. I’m not sure what to tell myself about all that goes on with her. She’s always had a foul mouth. Multiple racks, somehow she ain’t hot doe. She even did time for trying to rig in with the New York Spore Exchange (NYSE). This is common knowledge.

You’d think I’d learn, but no. It is what it is. I’ll be a horses ass, shit out and colonized by mycellium, fruited into a damn cubensis and eaten by some madman. I am doomed. DOOMED



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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26405534 - 12/28/19 11:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Smoking weed exacerbates visual distortions and may prolong hppd like symptoms indefinitely, as long as you smoke it that is.

I've been tripping for 25 years and the only times I've had prolonged hppd like symptoms were after smoking fuckloads of changa and when I was a stoner.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26405942 - 12/29/19 08:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you not know how to read? 450 was my third dose... jesus christ man, if you’re that dumb, just stop contributing. Better to shut up and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt...




feel free to read my addendum, i did not see that post while reading through and becoming increasingly aggravated at your uninformed an sensationalized posts.

I will clear this up for you... Your 300ug, 450ug, or 675ug first acid dose or 3g or 5g first shroom dose(whatever the fuck it is) could be believable if the text that preceded and followed wasn't so silly.
Im only reacting to the shit you say bud, i have nothing against you and wish you well, but this "mild hppd" shit you claim is silly along with the dosages.

And now im arguing with and idiot and being beaten with experience eh?





You know what idiots do...they drag you down and beat you with experience. Whatever that saying is.

This dude Korean J-sus(I don't want to blaspheme the name of Jesus like that) is going to severely hurt himself or someone else with this chaotic behavior. Doing 5g of mushrooms and 600ug+ of acid with so little experience is frightening. I'm ALL for getting right to the point of things and not bullshitting around but this is just making a mockery out of psychedelics and the people that use them.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26405983 - 12/29/19 09:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not closing your thread just because people are saying things you don't like but need to hear.

I would strongly suggest growing up and try to be less naïve about drugs.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26406052 - 12/29/19 10:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Gotta love the self-entitled posters including mr. mod who think they know everything. I know what I can and can’t handle, and if I’m wrong it affects me and not you guys. This thread has nothing to do with how many grams of mushrooms I used a month ago so I’m not looking for a lecture about how I should trip 50 times on half a gram before I try anything else

Anyone acting like the issue is that I tripped a higher dose than they would have is doing so in bad faith. Yeah, it's possible that high dosage contributed to lasting visuals, but it's just insulting to say that the symptoms I'm having are because I somehow wasn't "ready" for the doses I took and loved taking.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26406081 - 12/29/19 10:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Korean J is going to make me switch my username back to TheMushroomJesus so I can show the site how to accurately portray a biblical prophet. I am not liking what I am seeing so far.

And how can you not see that your body is telling you to slow down by your "HPPD?"


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    #26406084 - 12/29/19 10:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Gotta love the self-entitled posters including mr. mod who think they know everything. I know what I can and can’t handle, and if I’m wrong it affects me and not you guys. This thread has nothing to do with how many grams of mushrooms I used a month ago so I’m not looking for a lecture about how I should trip 50 times on half a gram before I try anything else

Anyone acting like the issue is that I tripped a higher dose than they would have is doing so in bad faith. It’s simply not the issue.




Jesus. What do you even want or hope to gain out of this thread man? It’s a train wreck.


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    #26406085 - 12/29/19 10:35 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Gotta love the self-entitled posters including mr. mod who think they know everything. I know what I can and can’t handle, and if I’m wrong it affects me and not you guys. This thread has nothing to do with how many grams of mushrooms I used a month ago so I’m not looking for a lecture about how I should trip 50 times on half a gram before I try anything else

Anyone acting like the issue is that I tripped a higher dose than they would have is doing so in bad faith. Yeah, it's possible that high dosage contributed to lasting visuals, but it's just insulting to say that the symptoms I'm having are because I somehow wasn't "ready" for the doses I took and loved taking.



Idk what you're rambling on about. I don't care what doses you take. Go big or go home. It's just everyone can tell most of what you posted is bullshit lol


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26406106 - 12/29/19 10:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Gotta love the self-entitled posters including mr. mod who think they know everything. I know what I can and can’t handle, and if I’m wrong it affects me and not you guys. This thread has nothing to do with how many grams of mushrooms I used a month ago so I’m not looking for a lecture about how I should trip 50 times on half a gram before I try anything else

Anyone acting like the issue is that I tripped a higher dose than they would have is doing so in bad faith. It’s simply not the issue.




Jesus. What do you even want or hope to gain out of this thread man? It’s a train wreck.



There's a reason I wanted it closed after I got my answer

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Gotta love the self-entitled posters including mr. mod who think they know everything. I know what I can and can’t handle, and if I’m wrong it affects me and not you guys. This thread has nothing to do with how many grams of mushrooms I used a month ago so I’m not looking for a lecture about how I should trip 50 times on half a gram before I try anything else

Anyone acting like the issue is that I tripped a higher dose than they would have is doing so in bad faith. Yeah, it's possible that high dosage contributed to lasting visuals, but it's just insulting to say that the symptoms I'm having are because I somehow wasn't "ready" for the doses I took and loved taking.



Idk what you're rambling on about. I don't care what doses you take. Go big or go home. It's just everyone can tell most of what you posted is bullshit lol



Jesus, they employ you to be a moderator? There's a reason these communities have a toxic reputation and it's because of people like you who refuse to believe that negative effects could ever exist.

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Korean J is going to make me switch my username back to TheMushroomJesus so I can show the site how to accurately portray a biblical prophet. I am not liking what I am seeing so far.

And how can you not see that your body is telling you to slow down by your "HPPD?"



What part of I haven't tripped in a month do you refuse to understand?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26406109 - 12/29/19 10:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Gotta love the self-entitled posters including mr. mod who think they know everything. I know what I can and can’t handle, and if I’m wrong it affects me and not you guys. This thread has nothing to do with how many grams of mushrooms I used a month ago so I’m not looking for a lecture about how I should trip 50 times on half a gram before I try anything else

Anyone acting like the issue is that I tripped a higher dose than they would have is doing so in bad faith. Yeah, it's possible that high dosage contributed to lasting visuals, but it's just insulting to say that the symptoms I'm having are because I somehow wasn't "ready" for the doses I took and loved taking.




Yeah some of the posts may seem a bit condescending to you and rightly so, tone is impossible to accurately reflect in this form lol.

But I'm gonna guess it's because yeah sure you can do what you want, but human compassion towards other humans generally wants to avoid seeing other in unecessary pain and suffering, so maybe people are just trying to steer you towards the safer end of psychedelic use?

But ultimately, yes you can do whatever you want :smile:

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    #26406116 - 12/29/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's obvious which posts are trying to be genuinely helpful and which ones are trolling/snarky/egotistical condescension.


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    #26406237 - 12/29/19 12:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You’re missing the point. What feels like righteous indignation to you reads as a disjointed, defensive overreaction to the people on this thread. Calm down. There is no battle to be won here. Just chill out and show your capable of a certain degree of listening as well as appreciation. Yes, I said that. You know why? Not because of some “toxic energy” like you suggest. I say it because this is honestly a good place man. Ive found that the Shroomery is full of knowledgable individuals and interesting characters. We learn from each other. Insulting a person whom a ton of us have learned from like Bod does nothing except make you look like an ass to everyone. Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s just a fact. Is that really what you want? Again, there is no battle to be won...nothing worth fighting over even if you feel attacked. What would you even gain if you” won” your argument at this point? ...This is an Internet forum. Just trying to help you understand since it’s obvious you’re not seeing the full scope of things here. I hope you get where I’m coming from. Signing off this thread now


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26406243 - 12/29/19 12:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

KJ, I think you want to have an affliction, you won't be happy until someone tells you have HPPD.


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    #26406279 - 12/29/19 12:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

A few years ago I got depersonalization disorder from tripping. It took me a couple years to come back to reality..I don't think it's good to trip all the time. These substances can honestly make you go crazy. If you push it hard enough something bad will happen sooner or later. Sure there's people out there that can handle it but the average person probably shouldn't do it more than a few times a year. Even Terrence mckenna lost his mind and had to stop taking high doses.. Maybe it's just time for you to stop and try something else in life. There's nothing wrong with moving on to something else. You don't need these substances to have a spiritual experience.


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    #26406596 - 12/29/19 04:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Korean J is going to make me switch my username back to TheMushroomJesus so I can show the site how to accurately portray a biblical prophet. I am not liking what I am seeing so far.

And how can you not see that your body is telling you to slow down by your "HPPD?"




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From bill o reily to the modern psychedelic jesus...what a transtition that would be:lol:

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Jesus. What do you even want or hope to gain out of this thread man? It’s a train wreck.




Right this thread is called "is it safe for me to keep tripping?"
You got answers you didn't like. Read this thread again some of us have been short, dickish, and told you things you don't like (mostly me:lol:). No one had said it just to spite you. We are trying to get across a point that ties into your original question, rather than take the tough love you have become defensive and are trying to go to war with long time members and mods:facepalm:

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Jesus, they employ you to be a moderator? There's a reason these communities have a toxic reputation and it's because of people like you who refuse to believe that negative effects could ever exist.




:lolwut: Unless im mistaken mods are not compensated:shrug:
Toxic reputation? seriously what are you on about?
Negative effects do exist, seriously bud read this thread again.

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You’re missing the point. What feels like righteous indignation to you reads as a disjointed, defensive overreaction to the people on this thread. Calm down. There is no battle to be won here. Just chill out and show your capable of a certain degree of listening as well as appreciation. Yes, I said that. You know why? Not because of some “toxic energy” like you suggest. I say it because this is honestly a good place man. Ive found that the Shroomery is full of knowledgable individuals and interesting characters. We learn from each other. Insulting a person whom a ton of us have learned from like Bod does nothing except make you like an ass to everyone. Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s just a fact. Is that really what you want? Again, there is no battle to be won...nothing worth fighting over even if you feel attacked. What would you even gain if you” won” your argument at this point? ...This is an Internet forum. Just trying to help you understand since it’s obvious you’re not seeing the full scope of things here. I hope you get where I’m coming from. Signing off this thread now




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    #26406607 - 12/29/19 04:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Smoking weed is going too make it much more intense.

It's not permanent "damage" - it's just your brain rewiring itself in better ways unless you are truly abusing psychedelics (which you're getting close too).  There's really no reason to take high doses of psychedelics more then twice a month, and doses of 500ug+ (or 7g mushrooms) really are a once or twice a year thing.  Smoking weed will make it infinitely worse by the way.

I had HPPD for a little while, but it mostly all went away.  The world is still brighter and more colorful, but that's due to an increase in serotonin in my brain due to taking herbal SRI supplements and effective micorodsing.  The same effect that would happen to someone who takes an SSRI when they are defficient in serotonin.

I, for one, now love the way my world looks. Everything is beautiful, slightly surreal, and deeply bright and colorful.  I'm also lucky to have like 20/20 vision as well.


So basically... no you're not on track to do permanent damage, but I'd cut back and avoid super heavy 5ht drugs like nbomes, 2c's, and DOx.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26406631 - 12/29/19 04:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Korean Jesus your signature gif is giving me hppd... seriously just trying to read this thread is hard with that thing going. You can't bombard your eyes with that stuff and not expect it to hang around. Its like when you play too much fps and close your eyes and see the game.

I think your doses are too high. I think most people around here dose too high. There is definitely a bravado about this 5g dick measurement thing. What are you trying to accomplish at these doses?

You are young I assume, my advice: if you're concerned lay off and wait for it to go away. If it does maybe try lower doses next time? If it doesn't then don't trip anymore.


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    #26406752 - 12/29/19 06:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Korean Jesus said:I get very brief afterimages that become not brief if I close my eyes after looking at very bright objects in the dark. If I stare at something for a while and let my eyes unfocus it starts to move.





OK PLEASE everyone try sitting in the dark for about 30 seconds, shine a bright light in your face then close your eyes and report back whether or not you see an after image...

This is a totally normal thing..OP you're thinking too much and worrying about dumb shit.  I'd say your eyes/vision are totally safe when it comes to trippin.  It's your pansy ass mentality that makes me think this isn't safe for you.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26406889 - 12/29/19 08:59 PM (4 years, 30 days ago)

My personal theory with HPPD is:
If you have an experience that becomes too much to handle, and you fight it, you get lasting visuals.

The only time it really became noticeable for me was after a very traumatic experience with LSD.

(Oh and I was smoking large amounts of cannabis/hashish at the time)
As someone in this thread mentioned, I do think there is some kind of connection there.

Whenever you alter cognitive function on a daily basis it eventually starts to change how your brain works.


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    #26412083 - 01/02/20 08:32 AM (4 years, 27 days ago)

I'm gonna smoke today, which will make the symptoms increase again, so here's my 5 day update for anybody interested.
Visual snow is almost completely gone. There are still small light patterns w my eyes closed in the dark but just about nothing in the light.
Movement persists on the intersection of walls and cielings and if I let my eyes unfocus a ton but it's less than before.
Afterimages are still vivid if I close my eyes but much less so than before, and pretty much nonexistent / same as normal vision with my eyes open.

I sometimes get weird audio hallucinations like faint music playing that go away within a few seconds of waking up, they've never been unpleasant though.

So definite improvement but not fully gone.

A really cool thing is I can basically track how close I am to falling asleep because the light patterns increase slightly as I get closer to sleeping, so I can actually time how long it'll be until I sleep pretty well by looking at the light patterns with my eyes closed. If they don't start increasing I know I'm not getting closer to falling asleep.


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What feels like righteous indignation to you reads as a disjointed, defensive overreaction to the people on this thread.



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    #26412129 - 01/02/20 09:07 AM (4 years, 27 days ago)

I think HPPD is more of an issue with cid.


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    #26412555 - 01/02/20 01:39 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

If you are getting audio hallucinations, you really should stop.

One of the guys who originally mentored me into this hobby told me about how he had lasting auditory hallucinations from years of doing LSD.

Like he would be out in his yard and hed hear his kid call his name only to notice that hes alone.

He also said something about this weird buzzing/electric sensation hed get in his molars.

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    #26412586 - 01/02/20 01:56 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

Something to keep in mind is that it might help to have some anti-psychotics around if you do start to go into a perma-trip state. Might happen the next high dose you take. Will not hurt to find a psychiatrist and have some meds as a backup if you are worried about the next trip.


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    #26412620 - 01/02/20 02:11 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

*takes bite out of sheet of acid

“You better hope there’s some Thorazine in that bag, because if there’s not you’re in bad trouble tomorrow.”

Seems kind of nuts to me, continuing to trip even if you are already experiencing concerning psychiatric symptoms.

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    #26412627 - 01/02/20 02:14 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

Yeah i’m not planning on doing psychedelics again unless HPPD symptoms completely go away

They seem to be reducing steadily though over time


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    #26413018 - 01/02/20 06:16 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

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One of the guys who originally mentored me into this hobby told me about how he had lasting auditory hallucinations from years of doing LSD.

Like he would be out in his yard and hed hear his kid call his name only to notice that hes alone


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I agree with your caution.  It is worth mentioning though, that these sorts of things do happen to people who have never done psychedelics or taken any type of drug before.  Of course it is a rare event, but many people have described events like this to me who walk the straight and narrow.


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    #26416641 - 01/04/20 08:31 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Can someone with normal vision help me discern what is normal? I'm struggling to remember how my vision was a few months ago.

1. Is it normal for there to be slight movement of fine text (and slight trails on them) when you let your eyes go out of focus for a few seconds?

2. Is it normal for the image of a very bright screen to linger for an instant (something like a tenth of a second to half a second if it's very bright) in the dark when you flick your eyes away from it?

3. To what extent are afterimages normal? Should they appear from anything other than staring into a direct source of light (like a bulb or the sun)?

4. Is very subtle visual snow, detectable only if focused upon in the dark, normal at all?

5. Are vivid afterimages, where you can see the shape of an object as well as finer details within it, normal if you close your eyes after looking at a bright screen in the dark?

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    #26416657 - 01/04/20 08:45 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

:huxleyfacepalm:
1. yes
2. yes especially if you stare at it, many optical illusions use this trick so you can "see jesus on your wall"
3. if you focus long enough it will happen to anyone
4. yes
5. absolutely, see answer for 2

Now questions for you:

1. Are you willing to live with/exacerbate these issues just to get high?
2. Why did you smoke weed knowing full well others in this thread told you it would extend and intensify your symptoms?
3. Why are you asking questions if you wont take the good advice given to you?

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    #26416685 - 01/04/20 09:11 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

You just said they're all normal, then told me to stop. lol


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    #26416688 - 01/04/20 09:13 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Yeah I'm easily willing to live with them (they have no negative effect) but I'm not at all willing to exacerbate them greatly (that could have untold negative effects)

No reason to have the same conversations we had on earlier pages again... I'm just asking for people's perspectives on what is normal vision so that I can compare and know when it's safe for me to do pyschedelics again.

If you think that makes me stupid, so be it. But it's at a point now where even smoking weed doesn't make the visual effects actually impede my vision (as it did a week ago), so there is no reason for me not to.

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    #26416696 - 01/04/20 09:17 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

One of these times you will turn into a  glass of juice.


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    #26416701 - 01/04/20 09:21 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Prolly need salvia for that


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26416954 - 01/05/20 02:12 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Can someone with normal vision help me discern what is normal? I'm struggling to remember how my vision was a few months ago.

1. Is it normal for there to be slight movement of fine text (and slight trails on them) when you let your eyes go out of focus for a few seconds?

2. Is it normal for the image of a very bright screen to linger for an instant (something like a tenth of a second to half a second if it's very bright) in the dark when you flick your eyes away from it?

3. To what extent are afterimages normal? Should they appear from anything other than staring into a direct source of light (like a bulb or the sun)?

4. Is very subtle visual snow, detectable only if focused upon in the dark, normal at all?

5. Are vivid afterimages, where you can see the shape of an object as well as finer details within it, normal if you close your eyes after looking at a bright screen in the dark?

Thanks for any responses



I’ve been thinking about your posts for ages now, KJ.
You see, all this talk of HPPD has made me turn my gaze towards myself! I have never had 20/20 vision, but over the last year, I have noticed difficulties reading small print. My reading glasses prescription is correct so it’s not that. It’s almost like I can’t focus in the centre of my vision. Don’t know how else to describe it.

But since I am now doing regular trips at two week intervals,  I wondered if that may be too frequent. I am not doing heroic doses, generally doing between 3.5 and 4.0g dry cubensis. It’s almost like you’ve had too much alcohol!. I do smoke a lot of weed; have done for 20cyears, so could also be related to that.
But in response to your numbered questions above, I would say:-
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. I get them walking my dogs in the woods when it’s dim.
4. Yes (low light phenomenon)
5. Yes.

Here’s something to give you a laugh. Yesterday in the woods, walking under an iron pipe I walk under everyday; yesterday I walked into it and knocked myself over. Ended up hands and backside in the river and a throbbing head. Must have got concussion because my head split open in two places, had headache all day and felt sick! But the effect this “concussion” had on my vision was exactly like HPPD sounds.........

Take care,
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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26417211 - 01/05/20 09:22 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Maybe we all have mild HPPD and I’m the only one that noticed it, lol. I’ve always been an incredibly observant person

The comparison to alcohol is good. Haven’t you ever wanted to read text on your phone but you’re too drunk to do so? That’d suck as a permanent state... but a lot of posters here have eased my anxiety. Maybe my vision was “better” before, but if what I’m describing is commonplace and undetrimental then it really isn’t a problem.

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26417230 - 01/05/20 09:35 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

AHem, I do too much alcohol too 😱

Gonna do “rest of dry January” starting tomorrow, Monday....

At least I’ve got a trip on Friday to look forwards to.....

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    #26417442 - 01/05/20 11:49 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

I love the feeling of alcohol gives but I rarely drink it because getting drunk makes me nauseous and vodka tastes like shit.

It’s too bad drugs like weed & psychedelics that are significantly better for your health and feeling are illegal


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    #26417451 - 01/05/20 11:54 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Agreed, friend


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    #26417463 - 01/05/20 12:05 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Let me say this again...
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This is a totally normal thing..OP you're thinking too much and worrying about dumb shit.  I'd say your eyes/vision are totally safe when it comes to trippin.  It's your pansy ass mentality that makes me think this isn't safe for you.




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    #26417464 - 01/05/20 12:08 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Mmm I’m starting to agree with you actually Stallion

Can’t be too careful though. Better safe than sorry


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    #26417516 - 01/05/20 12:48 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Let me say this again...
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TheStallionMang said:
This is a totally normal thing..OP you're thinking too much and worrying about dumb shit.  I'd say your eyes/vision are totally safe when it comes to trippin.  It's your pansy ass mentality that makes me think this isn't safe for you.






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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26417612 - 01/05/20 02:02 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Are you implying that I or we should be more compassionate to people that convince themselves of having a non-existent problem?

I deal too much with that in everyday life to have any patience left for it and things would be soooo much better for everyone if people dealt with the real problems in and around themselves instead of, literally in this case, "looking" for a problem.

Korean JC, if you're really concerned, go get your eyes checked but it looks like you've been told a few times at least that what you experience is normal.


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    #26417672 - 01/05/20 02:36 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Also, if you look KJ's history of post topics, the subjects are almost exclusively a rather redundant hyprochondriasis that's very normal of young people in their early exploration of psychedelics.

Many of those who've given responses of their experienced advice are probably pretty fed up with that advice not being honored at all - just more of the same paranoia and delusional belief that something is irreparably damaged.
It's disrespectful to those you're seeking advice from, and, quite frankly, kind of odd to reach out only to repel everything you hear because you read some wikipedia articles on some conditions that have almost no real evidence-based proof behind their theories.


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    #26417717 - 01/05/20 03:00 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Well said footpath, don't ask if you're just going to ignore everyone or keep asking the same questions.

KoreanJesus, maybe this will help...a video about moving illusions


and for anyone else that is tired of wasting energy trying to help people that don't really want good advice...this is freaking hilarious
https://www.captiongenerator.com/1575182/A-TC-in-a-Noob-Thread


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    #26417739 - 01/05/20 03:11 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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and for anyone else that is tired of wasting energy trying to help people that don't really want good advice...this is freaking hilarious
https://www.captiongenerator.com/1575182/A-TC-in-a-Noob-Thread



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    #26417771 - 01/05/20 03:27 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

It’s obvious some people get more visual anomalies than others


speaking to nobody in particular, if ur gonna be a toxic fuckwad u can stfu :smile:
didn’t ur mother ever tell u if u have nothing nice to say don’t say it?

many thanks to DJ Ed and SFS96 for helping me realize im fine in a constructive manner

prolly gonna trip again soon, no more monstrous acid doses for a while tho

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    #26417820 - 01/05/20 04:00 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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prolly gonna trip again soon, no more monstrous acid doses for a while tho

pce 🤞🏻




Good for you KJ, maybe someday people (not talking to anyone in particular) will realize that not everyone is interested in coddling people with made-up problems that need the same question answered multiple times


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang] * 1
    #26417826 - 01/05/20 04:05 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

How dare I be concerned for my safety 😭

Some people here are so toxic, I wonder if they’re being internet tough guys or if they seriously have no regard for their own safety

Why don’t you go back to convincing people to trip on plane rides? Seems like one of your better ideas tbh

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Spoken like a true american asshole




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Seems to me there are a lot of mamby pamby little butthurt self righteous entitled assholes




Hmmm starting to think the former 🤔

Go take your own advice my man

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Each of us are 1 out of about 7,500,000,000 (7.5 billion) people on this one planet, which is just one planet out of an estimated 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the observable universe.
We are all nothing
Even all of us humans combined are still nothing.
Who could possible say that we as individuals matter at all in the grand scheme of things?
Next time you think you've got big problems.  Look up at the sky and ponder these things if you want to put your overwhelming problems into perspective.




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    #26417871 - 01/05/20 04:32 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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speaking to nobody in particular, if ur gonna be a toxic fuckwad u can stfu :smile:
didn’t ur mother ever tell u if u have nothing nice to say don’t say it?




Yep. My father also said "stop being a crybaby" and "don't be an idiot, use your head".
Sounds like your parents never told you "no".

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monstrous acid doses



:callingbullshit:

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Some people here are so toxic



Or....Maybe, just maybe... you are an over exaggerating pansy ass bitch boy? :ohmy:


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26417883 - 01/05/20 04:38 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

All the angry keyboard warriors out of school right now?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26417888 - 01/05/20 04:40 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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All the angry keyboard warriors out of school right now?




LMAO its pretty obvious your the only one still in school bud... :underageban:


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    #26417890 - 01/05/20 04:40 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Lurker here.

Feel obliged to say Stallion & Babylon are angry people and Korean Jesus is a defensive keyboard warrior.

You’re all annoying and immature

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26417894 - 01/05/20 04:42 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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How dare I be concerned for my safety 😭

Some people here are so toxic, I wonder if they’re being internet tough guys or if they seriously have no regard for their own safety

Why don’t you go back to convincing people to trip on plane rides? Seems like one of your better ideas tbh

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Spoken like a true american asshole




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Seems to me there are a lot of mamby pamby little butthurt self righteous entitled assholes




Hmmm starting to think the former 🤔

Go take your own advice my man

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Each of us are 1 out of about 7,500,000,000 (7.5 billion) people on this one planet, which is just one planet out of an estimated 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the observable universe.
We are all nothing
Even all of us humans combined are still nothing.
Who could possible say that we as individuals matter at all in the grand scheme of things?
Next time you think you've got big problems.  Look up at the sky and ponder these things if you want to put your overwhelming problems into perspective.







Yo KJ, I got nothing against you man but you are proving my point about all the mamby pamby little cry babies that are too afraid to experience anything that is at all hard to deal with or the least little bit scary.

If one knows they're own mind and feels confident in their ability to lead themselves instead of allowing their mind to lead, they can do a lot of things including trip in possibly hairy situations and still have a good time...such as, planes, wedding receptions, in strange big cities, outside in the dead of winter, police stations

You're obviously more than a little riled up if you're going thru my old posts.
I stand by every word I said and I feel sorry for the chicken shits of the world. 
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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26417906 - 01/05/20 04:46 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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All the angry keyboard warriors out of school right now?




LMAO its pretty obvious your the only one still in school bud... :underageban:



Does that gif remind you of your experiences as a child with your family?

Look man, I truly feel sorry for people who grew up in shitty households. It’s no joke and nothing to make fun of. You strike me as somebody who may have had an over-aggressive father figure in your life. I’m not saying this to be mean at all - just know that whatever you’re going through, venting online won’t help. You should try counseling.

I truly hope the best for you man. Good luck.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: pokerstars935]
    #26417907 - 01/05/20 04:46 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Lurker here.

Feel obliged to say Stallion & Babylon are angry people and Korean Jesus is a defensive keyboard warrior.

You’re all annoying and immature

Please all stfu




Haha..check it out BabylonRuleDem..we inspired a lurker to make their very first post to point out that we're annoying and immature.

Pokerstars...sounds like you haven't had enough tough love in your life either buddy
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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26417911 - 01/05/20 04:48 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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no more monstrous acid doses for a while tho





Good choice. I'm beginning to repeat what I said in previous posts, but it's a point worth stressing that LSD in high doses is really the only thing I would worry about when it comes to HPPD. Like I said, I have some permanent but not really serious visual disturbances in my peripheral vision from LSD use. I've had a few of the proverbial "acid flashbacks." So all of that is definitely a thing.

Again, I think once you've been to "that place" enough, there isn't really a lot left to learn. The insights and things I learned from LSD largely stuck with me, at least to a high enough degree so that I saw no reason to continue to take it any more anyway. Albert Hoffman himself said he stopped taking LSD after a point for the same reason. In his later life, he only took low doses to enhance enjoyment of nature. Worth reading about.

In my opinion, LSD in general fits the model of "once you get the message, hang up the phone." Instead of purely "giving," I think it starts to take a little bit from you after a certain amount of use. At least that's how I see it.

So, if you really wanna stay "safe", stick to mushrooms...or DMT if really wanna blast off into uncharted realms. You'll be fine. Best of luck.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26417923 - 01/05/20 04:52 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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All the angry keyboard warriors out of school right now?




LMAO its pretty obvious your the only one still in school bud... :underageban:



Does that gif remind you of your experiences as a child with your family?

Look man, I truly feel sorry for people who grew up in shitty households. It’s no joke and nothing to make fun of. You strike me as somebody who may have had an over-aggressive father figure in your life. I’m not saying this to be mean at all - just know that whatever you’re going through, venting online won’t help. You should try counseling.

I truly hope the best for you man. Good luck.




KoreanJesus, just wondering, did you have a dad at home?
And can you explain the phrase under your name? "she blow that dick like a cello"  Are you aware that a cello is a string instrument and is played with the hands, not the mouth?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26417932 - 01/05/20 04:55 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

I’m going to refrain from personal insults because I truly do feel bad for you

Here’s a hot tip Mr. Stallion. When you have a question, use google to answer it.

www.google.com

While you’re there, you should look up “counseling.” I’m sure you’ll be able to find some good professional help!

Good luck in your new year, and cheers to self betterment 🍻


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26417947 - 01/05/20 05:08 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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I’m going to refrain from personal insults because I truly do feel bad for you

Here’s a hot tip Mr. Stallion. When you have a question, use google to answer it.

www.google.com

While you’re there, you should look up “counseling.” I’m sure you’ll be able to find some good professional help!

Good luck in your new year, and cheers to self betterment 🍻




Please don't waste any of your precious emotional energy feeling bad for me. I don't need it cause I'm not some little softie

Exactly where was the personal insult?  You're insinuating that certain people had a shitty home life and a harsh father without asking or knowing what their situation was and I'm just asking you a question.  Maybe I hit a sore spot and I'm sorry if I did..ok not really

And as far a telling me to go ask google...um, dude do you realize how much shit you ask people on here?

One more question if you don't mind. Why is your name KoreanJesus if you don't believe in God as you stated in a previous post?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26417950 - 01/05/20 05:09 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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All the angry keyboard warriors out of school right now?




LMAO its pretty obvious your the only one still in school bud... :underageban:



Does that gif remind you of your experiences as a child with your family?

Look man, I truly feel sorry for people who grew up in shitty households. It’s no joke and nothing to make fun of. You strike me as somebody who may have had an over-aggressive father figure in your life. I’m not saying this to be mean at all - just know that whatever you’re going through, venting online won’t help. You should try counseling.

I truly hope the best for you man. Good luck.




Same to you bud good luck. Life is not all rainbows and butterflies, im glad i was/am prepared for whatever may come.
Hopefully your using mommy's money to get a law degree. That was an excellent attempt to divert, you would make a good lawyer.

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Lurker here.

Feel obliged to say Stallion & Babylon are angry people and Korean Jesus is a defensive keyboard warrior.

You’re all annoying and immature

Please all stfu




Haha..check it out BabylonRuleDem..we inspired a lurker to make their very first post to point out that we're annoying and immature.

Pokerstars...sounds like you haven't had enough tough love in your life either buddy
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:lolsy: you forgot angry to

Lots of soft kids these days, they must think this is a "safe place".


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26417953 - 01/05/20 05:10 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

No personal insults? Reread your posts my man, you just insinuated I didn’t have a dad at home 😂

And for your last question, google is your friend

Here’s a hint for you: they’re both references. One to a heavily memed song, one to a very funny movie.

Any more questions?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26417957 - 01/05/20 05:13 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Lots of soft kids these days, they must think this is a "safe place".




Maybe they'd get along better here if all these "soft kids" mom's were mods

This place could be so much better but it really sucks lately


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    #26417959 - 01/05/20 05:14 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Look I don’t have any beef with you stallion. I’m sure you mean well. You were a little overagressive and me a little overdefensive.

Let’s just end it at that. We both agree on the answer to the thread now.


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    #26417974 - 01/05/20 05:20 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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No personal insults? Reread your posts my man, you just insinuated I didn’t have a dad at home 😂

And for your last question, google is your friend

Here’s a hint for you: they’re both references. One to a heavily memed song, one to a very funny movie.

Any more questions?




And you insinuated i grew up in a abusive household with some bs to play of the insulting nature of the comment.
How fucking soft are you bud.
Fwiw i grew up in a household with discipline, if you did something you shouldn't then my parents let us know. Probably why i left when i was 16 and made a lot of mistakes because i thought i could do whatever the fuck i wanted.
Abusive no, strict yes.

So did you have a father growing up?


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    #26417979 - 01/05/20 05:22 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Yes, I insinuated that because it’s the nicest possible reason I can imagine for your personality being as... uhm... well I don’t want to get banned for flaming as it is.

Yes, I have a father if you really want to know. He taught me not to be an asshole dickwad.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26417988 - 01/05/20 05:25 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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I'm not closing your thread just because people are saying things you don't like but need to hear.

I would strongly suggest growing up and try to be less naïve about drugs.




Oh my..looks like OP asked bodhisatta to close this thread way back on page 3 because hims didnt wike the wesponses hims was getting!

Yo KJ, I just re-read all my posts under your thread and still don't see how I was being personally insulting. 

Let's see what the group thinks:
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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26417997 - 01/05/20 05:28 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

No beef stallion, stop with the pettiness. I’m sure you’re over it. Just drop it.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26418028 - 01/05/20 05:44 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

uhhhh, I don't know man. I'm feeling all
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    #26418035 - 01/05/20 05:46 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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No beef stallion, stop with the pettiness. I’m sure you’re over it. Just drop it.



Why did you edit your post to include "stop with the pettiness"?
You didn't get called petty or asked to stop when you started quoting me from unrelated threads earlier..how typical


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26418044 - 01/05/20 05:50 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Just got this PM from Korean Jesus:

"rereading all the posts it looks like I saw a post by bab and conflated it w what u were saying, that's why I launched on my family rant.

if we keep arguing in the thread we're both going to get banned for flaming bc the mods are assholes.

point taken on both sides im guessing? i said what i wanted to say and you said what you wanted to say. lets just drop it man, seriously"

Dude, if you realize you misread shit and have something to apologize for, then have the balls to post it in the thread for all to see.  I've been more than patient with your crap but that's at an end


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