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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26416688 - 01/04/20 09:13 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Yeah I'm easily willing to live with them (they have no negative effect) but I'm not at all willing to exacerbate them greatly (that could have untold negative effects)

No reason to have the same conversations we had on earlier pages again... I'm just asking for people's perspectives on what is normal vision so that I can compare and know when it's safe for me to do pyschedelics again.

If you think that makes me stupid, so be it. But it's at a point now where even smoking weed doesn't make the visual effects actually impede my vision (as it did a week ago), so there is no reason for me not to.

Not looking for judgement or advice just info :smile:


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26416696 - 01/04/20 09:17 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

One of these times you will turn into a  glass of juice.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26416701 - 01/04/20 09:21 PM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Prolly need salvia for that


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26416954 - 01/05/20 02:12 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Korean Jesus said:
Can someone with normal vision help me discern what is normal? I'm struggling to remember how my vision was a few months ago.

1. Is it normal for there to be slight movement of fine text (and slight trails on them) when you let your eyes go out of focus for a few seconds?

2. Is it normal for the image of a very bright screen to linger for an instant (something like a tenth of a second to half a second if it's very bright) in the dark when you flick your eyes away from it?

3. To what extent are afterimages normal? Should they appear from anything other than staring into a direct source of light (like a bulb or the sun)?

4. Is very subtle visual snow, detectable only if focused upon in the dark, normal at all?

5. Are vivid afterimages, where you can see the shape of an object as well as finer details within it, normal if you close your eyes after looking at a bright screen in the dark?

Thanks for any responses



I’ve been thinking about your posts for ages now, KJ.
You see, all this talk of HPPD has made me turn my gaze towards myself! I have never had 20/20 vision, but over the last year, I have noticed difficulties reading small print. My reading glasses prescription is correct so it’s not that. It’s almost like I can’t focus in the centre of my vision. Don’t know how else to describe it.

But since I am now doing regular trips at two week intervals,  I wondered if that may be too frequent. I am not doing heroic doses, generally doing between 3.5 and 4.0g dry cubensis. It’s almost like you’ve had too much alcohol!. I do smoke a lot of weed; have done for 20cyears, so could also be related to that.
But in response to your numbered questions above, I would say:-
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. I get them walking my dogs in the woods when it’s dim.
4. Yes (low light phenomenon)
5. Yes.

Here’s something to give you a laugh. Yesterday in the woods, walking under an iron pipe I walk under everyday; yesterday I walked into it and knocked myself over. Ended up hands and backside in the river and a throbbing head. Must have got concussion because my head split open in two places, had headache all day and felt sick! But the effect this “concussion” had on my vision was exactly like HPPD sounds.........

Take care,
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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26417211 - 01/05/20 09:22 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Maybe we all have mild HPPD and I’m the only one that noticed it, lol. I’ve always been an incredibly observant person

The comparison to alcohol is good. Haven’t you ever wanted to read text on your phone but you’re too drunk to do so? That’d suck as a permanent state... but a lot of posters here have eased my anxiety. Maybe my vision was “better” before, but if what I’m describing is commonplace and undetrimental then it really isn’t a problem.

Thanks for your perspective.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26417230 - 01/05/20 09:35 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

AHem, I do too much alcohol too 😱

Gonna do “rest of dry January” starting tomorrow, Monday....

At least I’ve got a trip on Friday to look forwards to.....

Mush love,
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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26417442 - 01/05/20 11:49 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

I love the feeling of alcohol gives but I rarely drink it because getting drunk makes me nauseous and vodka tastes like shit.

It’s too bad drugs like weed & psychedelics that are significantly better for your health and feeling are illegal


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26417451 - 01/05/20 11:54 AM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Agreed, friend


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang] * 1
    #26417463 - 01/05/20 12:05 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Let me say this again...
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This is a totally normal thing..OP you're thinking too much and worrying about dumb shit.  I'd say your eyes/vision are totally safe when it comes to trippin.  It's your pansy ass mentality that makes me think this isn't safe for you.




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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26417464 - 01/05/20 12:08 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Mmm I’m starting to agree with you actually Stallion

Can’t be too careful though. Better safe than sorry


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26417516 - 01/05/20 12:48 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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Let me say this again...
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TheStallionMang said:
This is a totally normal thing..OP you're thinking too much and worrying about dumb shit.  I'd say your eyes/vision are totally safe when it comes to trippin.  It's your pansy ass mentality that makes me think this isn't safe for you.






The compassion in this thread is off the charts....

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26417612 - 01/05/20 02:02 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Are you implying that I or we should be more compassionate to people that convince themselves of having a non-existent problem?

I deal too much with that in everyday life to have any patience left for it and things would be soooo much better for everyone if people dealt with the real problems in and around themselves instead of, literally in this case, "looking" for a problem.

Korean JC, if you're really concerned, go get your eyes checked but it looks like you've been told a few times at least that what you experience is normal.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang] * 3
    #26417672 - 01/05/20 02:36 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Also, if you look KJ's history of post topics, the subjects are almost exclusively a rather redundant hyprochondriasis that's very normal of young people in their early exploration of psychedelics.

Many of those who've given responses of their experienced advice are probably pretty fed up with that advice not being honored at all - just more of the same paranoia and delusional belief that something is irreparably damaged.
It's disrespectful to those you're seeking advice from, and, quite frankly, kind of odd to reach out only to repel everything you hear because you read some wikipedia articles on some conditions that have almost no real evidence-based proof behind their theories.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: footpath]
    #26417717 - 01/05/20 03:00 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Well said footpath, don't ask if you're just going to ignore everyone or keep asking the same questions.

KoreanJesus, maybe this will help...a video about moving illusions


and for anyone else that is tired of wasting energy trying to help people that don't really want good advice...this is freaking hilarious
https://www.captiongenerator.com/1575182/A-TC-in-a-Noob-Thread


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang] * 1
    #26417739 - 01/05/20 03:11 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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and for anyone else that is tired of wasting energy trying to help people that don't really want good advice...this is freaking hilarious
https://www.captiongenerator.com/1575182/A-TC-in-a-Noob-Thread



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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26417771 - 01/05/20 03:27 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

It’s obvious some people get more visual anomalies than others


speaking to nobody in particular, if ur gonna be a toxic fuckwad u can stfu :smile:
didn’t ur mother ever tell u if u have nothing nice to say don’t say it?

many thanks to DJ Ed and SFS96 for helping me realize im fine in a constructive manner

prolly gonna trip again soon, no more monstrous acid doses for a while tho

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26417820 - 01/05/20 04:00 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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prolly gonna trip again soon, no more monstrous acid doses for a while tho

pce 🤞🏻




Good for you KJ, maybe someday people (not talking to anyone in particular) will realize that not everyone is interested in coddling people with made-up problems that need the same question answered multiple times


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: TheStallionMang] * 1
    #26417826 - 01/05/20 04:05 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

How dare I be concerned for my safety 😭

Some people here are so toxic, I wonder if they’re being internet tough guys or if they seriously have no regard for their own safety

Why don’t you go back to convincing people to trip on plane rides? Seems like one of your better ideas tbh

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Spoken like a true american asshole




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Seems to me there are a lot of mamby pamby little butthurt self righteous entitled assholes




Hmmm starting to think the former 🤔

Go take your own advice my man

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Each of us are 1 out of about 7,500,000,000 (7.5 billion) people on this one planet, which is just one planet out of an estimated 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the observable universe.
We are all nothing
Even all of us humans combined are still nothing.
Who could possible say that we as individuals matter at all in the grand scheme of things?
Next time you think you've got big problems.  Look up at the sky and ponder these things if you want to put your overwhelming problems into perspective.




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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26417871 - 01/05/20 04:32 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

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speaking to nobody in particular, if ur gonna be a toxic fuckwad u can stfu :smile:
didn’t ur mother ever tell u if u have nothing nice to say don’t say it?




Yep. My father also said "stop being a crybaby" and "don't be an idiot, use your head".
Sounds like your parents never told you "no".

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monstrous acid doses



:callingbullshit:

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Some people here are so toxic



Or....Maybe, just maybe... you are an over exaggerating pansy ass bitch boy? :ohmy:


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26417883 - 01/05/20 04:38 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

All the angry keyboard warriors out of school right now?


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