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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26406109 - 12/29/19 10:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Korean Jesus said:
Gotta love the self-entitled posters including mr. mod who think they know everything. I know what I can and can’t handle, and if I’m wrong it affects me and not you guys. This thread has nothing to do with how many grams of mushrooms I used a month ago so I’m not looking for a lecture about how I should trip 50 times on half a gram before I try anything else

Anyone acting like the issue is that I tripped a higher dose than they would have is doing so in bad faith. Yeah, it's possible that high dosage contributed to lasting visuals, but it's just insulting to say that the symptoms I'm having are because I somehow wasn't "ready" for the doses I took and loved taking.




Yeah some of the posts may seem a bit condescending to you and rightly so, tone is impossible to accurately reflect in this form lol.

But I'm gonna guess it's because yeah sure you can do what you want, but human compassion towards other humans generally wants to avoid seeing other in unecessary pain and suffering, so maybe people are just trying to steer you towards the safer end of psychedelic use?

But ultimately, yes you can do whatever you want :smile:

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: mu5h13]
    #26406116 - 12/29/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's obvious which posts are trying to be genuinely helpful and which ones are trolling/snarky/egotistical condescension.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26406237 - 12/29/19 12:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You’re missing the point. What feels like righteous indignation to you reads as a disjointed, defensive overreaction to the people on this thread. Calm down. There is no battle to be won here. Just chill out and show your capable of a certain degree of listening as well as appreciation. Yes, I said that. You know why? Not because of some “toxic energy” like you suggest. I say it because this is honestly a good place man. Ive found that the Shroomery is full of knowledgable individuals and interesting characters. We learn from each other. Insulting a person whom a ton of us have learned from like Bod does nothing except make you look like an ass to everyone. Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s just a fact. Is that really what you want? Again, there is no battle to be won...nothing worth fighting over even if you feel attacked. What would you even gain if you” won” your argument at this point? ...This is an Internet forum. Just trying to help you understand since it’s obvious you’re not seeing the full scope of things here. I hope you get where I’m coming from. Signing off this thread now


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26406243 - 12/29/19 12:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

KJ, I think you want to have an affliction, you won't be happy until someone tells you have HPPD.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26406279 - 12/29/19 12:23 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

A few years ago I got depersonalization disorder from tripping. It took me a couple years to come back to reality..I don't think it's good to trip all the time. These substances can honestly make you go crazy. If you push it hard enough something bad will happen sooner or later. Sure there's people out there that can handle it but the average person probably shouldn't do it more than a few times a year. Even Terrence mckenna lost his mind and had to stop taking high doses.. Maybe it's just time for you to stop and try something else in life. There's nothing wrong with moving on to something else. You don't need these substances to have a spiritual experience.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Shenmue]
    #26406596 - 12/29/19 04:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
Korean J is going to make me switch my username back to TheMushroomJesus so I can show the site how to accurately portray a biblical prophet. I am not liking what I am seeing so far.

And how can you not see that your body is telling you to slow down by your "HPPD?"




:datass:
From bill o reily to the modern psychedelic jesus...what a transtition that would be:lol:

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Psilotyl said:
Jesus. What do you even want or hope to gain out of this thread man? It’s a train wreck.




Right this thread is called "is it safe for me to keep tripping?"
You got answers you didn't like. Read this thread again some of us have been short, dickish, and told you things you don't like (mostly me:lol:). No one had said it just to spite you. We are trying to get across a point that ties into your original question, rather than take the tough love you have become defensive and are trying to go to war with long time members and mods:facepalm:

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Jesus, they employ you to be a moderator? There's a reason these communities have a toxic reputation and it's because of people like you who refuse to believe that negative effects could ever exist.




:lolwut: Unless im mistaken mods are not compensated:shrug:
Toxic reputation? seriously what are you on about?
Negative effects do exist, seriously bud read this thread again.

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You’re missing the point. What feels like righteous indignation to you reads as a disjointed, defensive overreaction to the people on this thread. Calm down. There is no battle to be won here. Just chill out and show your capable of a certain degree of listening as well as appreciation. Yes, I said that. You know why? Not because of some “toxic energy” like you suggest. I say it because this is honestly a good place man. Ive found that the Shroomery is full of knowledgable individuals and interesting characters. We learn from each other. Insulting a person whom a ton of us have learned from like Bod does nothing except make you like an ass to everyone. Sorry to burst your bubble but it’s just a fact. Is that really what you want? Again, there is no battle to be won...nothing worth fighting over even if you feel attacked. What would you even gain if you” won” your argument at this point? ...This is an Internet forum. Just trying to help you understand since it’s obvious you’re not seeing the full scope of things here. I hope you get where I’m coming from. Signing off this thread now




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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26406607 - 12/29/19 04:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Smoking weed is going too make it much more intense.

It's not permanent "damage" - it's just your brain rewiring itself in better ways unless you are truly abusing psychedelics (which you're getting close too).  There's really no reason to take high doses of psychedelics more then twice a month, and doses of 500ug+ (or 7g mushrooms) really are a once or twice a year thing.  Smoking weed will make it infinitely worse by the way.

I had HPPD for a little while, but it mostly all went away.  The world is still brighter and more colorful, but that's due to an increase in serotonin in my brain due to taking herbal SRI supplements and effective micorodsing.  The same effect that would happen to someone who takes an SSRI when they are defficient in serotonin.

I, for one, now love the way my world looks. Everything is beautiful, slightly surreal, and deeply bright and colorful.  I'm also lucky to have like 20/20 vision as well.


So basically... no you're not on track to do permanent damage, but I'd cut back and avoid super heavy 5ht drugs like nbomes, 2c's, and DOx.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26406631 - 12/29/19 04:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Korean Jesus your signature gif is giving me hppd... seriously just trying to read this thread is hard with that thing going. You can't bombard your eyes with that stuff and not expect it to hang around. Its like when you play too much fps and close your eyes and see the game.

I think your doses are too high. I think most people around here dose too high. There is definitely a bravado about this 5g dick measurement thing. What are you trying to accomplish at these doses?

You are young I assume, my advice: if you're concerned lay off and wait for it to go away. If it does maybe try lower doses next time? If it doesn't then don't trip anymore.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26406752 - 12/29/19 06:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Korean Jesus said:I get very brief afterimages that become not brief if I close my eyes after looking at very bright objects in the dark. If I stare at something for a while and let my eyes unfocus it starts to move.





OK PLEASE everyone try sitting in the dark for about 30 seconds, shine a bright light in your face then close your eyes and report back whether or not you see an after image...

This is a totally normal thing..OP you're thinking too much and worrying about dumb shit.  I'd say your eyes/vision are totally safe when it comes to trippin.  It's your pansy ass mentality that makes me think this isn't safe for you.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26406889 - 12/29/19 08:59 PM (4 years, 30 days ago)

My personal theory with HPPD is:
If you have an experience that becomes too much to handle, and you fight it, you get lasting visuals.

The only time it really became noticeable for me was after a very traumatic experience with LSD.

(Oh and I was smoking large amounts of cannabis/hashish at the time)
As someone in this thread mentioned, I do think there is some kind of connection there.

Whenever you alter cognitive function on a daily basis it eventually starts to change how your brain works.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26412083 - 01/02/20 08:32 AM (4 years, 27 days ago)

I'm gonna smoke today, which will make the symptoms increase again, so here's my 5 day update for anybody interested.
Visual snow is almost completely gone. There are still small light patterns w my eyes closed in the dark but just about nothing in the light.
Movement persists on the intersection of walls and cielings and if I let my eyes unfocus a ton but it's less than before.
Afterimages are still vivid if I close my eyes but much less so than before, and pretty much nonexistent / same as normal vision with my eyes open.

I sometimes get weird audio hallucinations like faint music playing that go away within a few seconds of waking up, they've never been unpleasant though.

So definite improvement but not fully gone.

A really cool thing is I can basically track how close I am to falling asleep because the light patterns increase slightly as I get closer to sleeping, so I can actually time how long it'll be until I sleep pretty well by looking at the light patterns with my eyes closed. If they don't start increasing I know I'm not getting closer to falling asleep.


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Psilotyl said:
What feels like righteous indignation to you reads as a disjointed, defensive overreaction to the people on this thread.



Yeah, probably true...


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26412129 - 01/02/20 09:07 AM (4 years, 27 days ago)

I think HPPD is more of an issue with cid.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26412555 - 01/02/20 01:39 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

If you are getting audio hallucinations, you really should stop.

One of the guys who originally mentored me into this hobby told me about how he had lasting auditory hallucinations from years of doing LSD.

Like he would be out in his yard and hed hear his kid call his name only to notice that hes alone.

He also said something about this weird buzzing/electric sensation hed get in his molars.

Not cool


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26412586 - 01/02/20 01:56 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

Something to keep in mind is that it might help to have some anti-psychotics around if you do start to go into a perma-trip state. Might happen the next high dose you take. Will not hurt to find a psychiatrist and have some meds as a backup if you are worried about the next trip.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26412620 - 01/02/20 02:11 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

*takes bite out of sheet of acid

“You better hope there’s some Thorazine in that bag, because if there’s not you’re in bad trouble tomorrow.”

Seems kind of nuts to me, continuing to trip even if you are already experiencing concerning psychiatric symptoms.

but whatever.
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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26412627 - 01/02/20 02:14 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

Yeah i’m not planning on doing psychedelics again unless HPPD symptoms completely go away

They seem to be reducing steadily though over time


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26413018 - 01/02/20 06:16 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

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One of the guys who originally mentored me into this hobby told me about how he had lasting auditory hallucinations from years of doing LSD.

Like he would be out in his yard and hed hear his kid call his name only to notice that hes alone


.

I agree with your caution.  It is worth mentioning though, that these sorts of things do happen to people who have never done psychedelics or taken any type of drug before.  Of course it is a rare event, but many people have described events like this to me who walk the straight and narrow.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26416641 - 01/04/20 08:31 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

Can someone with normal vision help me discern what is normal? I'm struggling to remember how my vision was a few months ago.

1. Is it normal for there to be slight movement of fine text (and slight trails on them) when you let your eyes go out of focus for a few seconds?

2. Is it normal for the image of a very bright screen to linger for an instant (something like a tenth of a second to half a second if it's very bright) in the dark when you flick your eyes away from it?

3. To what extent are afterimages normal? Should they appear from anything other than staring into a direct source of light (like a bulb or the sun)?

4. Is very subtle visual snow, detectable only if focused upon in the dark, normal at all?

5. Are vivid afterimages, where you can see the shape of an object as well as finer details within it, normal if you close your eyes after looking at a bright screen in the dark?

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26416657 - 01/04/20 08:45 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

:huxleyfacepalm:
1. yes
2. yes especially if you stare at it, many optical illusions use this trick so you can "see jesus on your wall"
3. if you focus long enough it will happen to anyone
4. yes
5. absolutely, see answer for 2

Now questions for you:

1. Are you willing to live with/exacerbate these issues just to get high?
2. Why did you smoke weed knowing full well others in this thread told you it would extend and intensify your symptoms?
3. Why are you asking questions if you wont take the good advice given to you?

STOP DOING DRUGS! damn man


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26416685 - 01/04/20 09:11 PM (4 years, 24 days ago)

You just said they're all normal, then told me to stop. lol


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