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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404532 - 12/28/19 11:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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you didnt take 5g of mushrooms and 675ug lsd for your first psychedelic experiences.



Shit I kind of missed that those were his first psychedelic experiences. Theres your problem KJ. That's a hell of a lot for your first times.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404564 - 12/28/19 11:51 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Those weren’t my first. My first was 300, then 150, then 450, then 675. Then 3g, then 5g.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404587 - 12/28/19 12:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I do know a heavy acid trip had me having visual distortion for about 2 months after. Im not sure the dosage but 5 hits of pure LSD had me fucked up for a while. Shrooms can have this affect too but it seams like not as long. It sounds like your still having after glow but I could be wrong. I’d probably lay off the psychedelics for a month like you said, except for weed I’d definitely smoke that lol



And it completely or almost completely (similar to where I am now) went away afterwards? If so that's great news for me



Yeah it went away. Honestly I don’t do LSD anymore because it was hard for me to not do too much because I always bought 100hit sheets. I’d get way out of control sometimes on a acid binge and I’d put the drug over everything. It caused more problems for me then it helped with so I promised to never do it again. When I was doing it often it would get visuals even when I was at work and sober. Once I stopped I’d say it took a month or longer for my visual perception to return to normal.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26404786 - 12/28/19 02:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I absolutely love tripping and I believe it has had a very positive affect on my mind and my health. I'd hate to have to give it up, but my vision is more important. What do you guys think?






Take this however you will....

....but when it comes to "HPPD" (after being around this place for over a decade now), to me it seems that it is mostly people that are new to psychedelics that talk about "HPPD" more so than those that have been working with psychedelics for years and have lots of trips under the belt.

Like I don't often hear from people that have been working with psychedelics for years/decades, those that have 100's or 1000's of trips, talk about or being concerned about HPPD......it is mostly folks that are new to psychedelics that talk about HPPD.

If HPPD was a major issue with psychedelics...I feel a lot more of the "old heads" and ones with lots of trips over the years would be the ones talking about it. But it's mostly newbies that talk about it.



I do feel psychedelics can, to an extent, leave a persisting impact on one's visual perception.....but I also feel a BIG part of it is people are just more aware of their visual perception (and sensory perception in general) after having their first several trips and they are noticing things they haven't noticed before.



For myself.....I've been working with psychedelics for about 11 years now, have had around 250+ trips (LSD, mushrooms, mescaline, DMT), I do feel my visual perception has been slightly altered but it's not something that bothers or affects me much. It's something that has not been on my mind since basically the first year I started to work with psychedelics lol, and I do not feel like I'm impacting my visual perception more and more with every trip.





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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: openmind]
    #26404804 - 12/28/19 02:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’m not offended by that, I recognize that I’m new and I have a lot to learn from people who are more experienced. I do hope you’re right :smile:

Thanks for the reassurance


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404819 - 12/28/19 02:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Korean Jesus is the type to believe his dealer that he has 300ug hits.

I'm just saying man..learn to swim before jumping in the pool.

Open mind is right. I wish I had it in me to be so nice when telling a noob he is totally exaggerating.

What next.. serotonin syndrome?

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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404827 - 12/28/19 02:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Is it ur hobby to stalk my posts and make inane comments?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26404833 - 12/28/19 02:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'll second OM's view on HPPD. I think it's more of a delusional reaction to your enhanced perceptions.
I do have 'visual snow', and, at first, I was really freaked out that I had permanently scarred my optic nerve or some shit like that.
But, after abstaining for even a little bit of time, I noticed that my sensitivity to the static had gone down.
Fast forward to some odd hundreds of trips later, I still have that static, and it's still just as dependent on the sensitivity of my perception.

Later I found out that many of my family members have different sorts of migraine disorders - those who've not taken drugs included - and that 'visual snow' is included in those migraine disorders.
I also get ocular migraines... you wanna talk about feeling like your vision has been permanently damaged. However, I don't even get the usual painful headache style of migraine, but my father is crippled by them from time to time.

Try taking better care of yourself. A diet predominately plant-based with well-sourced meats. Exercise. Mental well-being exercises like meditation or just proper relaxation. Adequate rest. Abstinence from toxic substances. Breathing. All of those things will help to relieve of negative lifestyle side-effects.

It's easy to sensationalize drug use on a drug culture forum. But it will fuck you up (not in the 'cool' way) if you don't use them with moderation. Everyone's moderation is different.

edit: side note: stop staring at shit like that in your signature. Look at patterns in nature and geometry if you want to have some optic awe.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26404839 - 12/28/19 02:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Your attitude was "you can't tell me anything" when you initially signed up here. You asked mods for drugs. Your sig and avatar along with your little headline are all so noobish. You are just extremely noob right now and you are taking doses like you are not and I don't want anyone getting hurt and I don't want you putting out any information that gets anyone hurt. Look, that behavior put me in 3 psych wards. I could have killed someone or myself. I don't want to see anything crazy happen to you or anyone else. Have fun but don't be a damn fool.

And you don't just go from having one or two regular doses to jumping up to 600+ug acid and 5g mushrooms. That's not how it works. Just because you tripped a couple times on regular doses doesn't mean you are ready for the big ones. SLOW DOWN your brain isn't ready


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Flowing out means far-reaching;
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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404926 - 12/28/19 03:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

"That's not how it works" according to whom? Look, I respect that you're an experienced pyschonaut. But I can't take you seriously when you use bad faith arguments like me "asking mods for drugs," when you're the one who convinced me to do it. And for the record:

Yeah, dumb of me. But keep it real.

I'd love to take you seriously but the vast majority of your comments on my posts are simply trolling. Just chill man, lol. If you don't like me you don't have to give me advice :smile:


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26404966 - 12/28/19 03:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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And you don't just go from having one or two regular doses to jumping up to 600+ug acid and 5g mushrooms. That's not how it works. Just because you tripped a couple times on regular doses doesn't mean you are ready for the big ones. SLOW DOWN your brain isn't ready



I agree with this. Not a great idea. Maybe it ended up working out for you-kind of sounds like it didn't exactly though-But it's wreckless. I had multiple doses at a half eighth and below before I ever took an eighth. It's just not really safe to jump up so quick. Ive done wreckless things with drugs to so i get the mindset but you really should've slowed it down.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404981 - 12/28/19 04:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I decided I will wait a while before tripping again. Either until my "HPPD" symptoms are gone or until I'm ready to deal with more intense visual distortions. I'll try to smoke weed seldomly to accelerate the improvement process.

I'm glad others have said these symptoms usually go away and I'm optimistic that this is just a minor speedbump in my psychedelic journey.

Thanks to everybody for your advice, even if I disagreed with it


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: azramb]
    #26404984 - 12/28/19 04:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Moral of the story would be just to relax and see what happens. Assuming things will get better overtime. But, like OM said earlier, you may now have a better understanding of your perception and bypassing filters that were set up prior to a trip.

I defiently feel like mushrooms/lsd break down filtered barriers that allow us to see what's right in front of us.. but we're unable to see it with our filtered eyes. Pretty nuts when you really think about it.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26405184 - 12/28/19 06:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It is hard for me to understand if you are concerned or just playing, KJ.  You had a thread a few weeks ago about HPPD and your "concerns".  The overwhelming view was that is was just afterglow and you should lay off tripping and weed and see if it all resolved.

But now you are still taking part, and more frequently than you said you would.  So you can't be that concerned really?

Are you romanticizing HPPD?  Do you have a genuine health concern or are you after something different?


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26405261 - 12/28/19 07:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).

edit: I forgot to mention a 3g dose a day after my 675. I didn't realize there was cross tolerance beforehand, and the 3g did almost nothing for me in terms of visuals but it did put me in another headspace.




I find this hard to believe, who tested your tabs? what experience with LSD do you have to measure what 100ug let along 450ug should do?...OH 450ug was your first dose? uh huh....i think i see what is happening here...
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Korean Jesus is the type to believe his dealer that he has 300ug hits.

I'm just saying man..learn to swim before jumping in the pool.

Open mind is right. I wish I had it in me to be so nice when telling a noob he is totally exaggerating.

What next.. serotonin syndrome?

Sorry..I couldn't resist




OH shit so does someone else...
I try to be nice, but this thread is suspect. and reading OPs other posts its nothing more than bullshit.

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Korean Jesus said:
Is it ur hobby to stalk my posts and make inane comments?




No one is stalking u, but some users when active will come across many posts from the same user. When these posts raise red flags; refer to above.

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Korean Jesus said:
"That's not how it works" according to whom? Look, I respect that you're an experienced pyschonaut. But I can't take you seriously when you use bad faith arguments like me "asking mods for drugs," when you're the one who convinced me to do it. And for the record:

Yeah, dumb of me. But keep it real.

I'd love to take you seriously but the vast majority of your comments on my posts are simply trolling. Just chill man, lol. If you don't like me you don't have to give me advice :smile:




Umm i have no idea about the accusations being described here, but if you were actually dumb enough to PM a mod with the intent of procuring DMT then wow...
No one is trolling you, but the shit you are saying(in this thread and others) shows exactly how inexperienced and foolish you are.
Maybe stick around and read more before you decide to post. You sound like a :underage:.

Bill can be short and sometimes rude, but in my browsing of the forum he seems to be a straight shooter.

again u claim 450ug was your first acid trip and 5g was your first mushrooms trip. Also your experiencing "slight visual distortions" and are "thinking of" laying of psychedelics.
Bitch please, just no.
:nojustno:

Damn my bullshit detector is getting some work in today.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26405265 - 12/28/19 07:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

How much acid have you done? That’s the one that can really leave you with persisting visual stuff. I did a a lot of acid when I was 18-19 years old and for awhile after had some weird visual stuff going on. It’s mostly gone away but part of it is indeed permanent...it’s nothing too distracting though, very used to it now and don’t even notice it.

I don’t want to say as a fact that mushrooms couldn’t cause the same thing, but I’ve since taken many, many, more high dose mushroom trips than I ever did LSD. & I’ve gotten some visual phenomena in the days after said mushroom trips, but it always subsides/goes away. If you are mostly a person that trips shrooms, I’m willing to bet whatever is going on is going to go away before long. Its smart not to trip right now if you are worried about it though. The mushrooms will always be there later.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26405275 - 12/28/19 07:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).

Up until about a few days ago, smoking a few hrs each day for ~5w.

That's the entire history of my pysch use. My visuals on weed were pretty much nothing before I started using acid/shrooms so my weed history before that is irrelevant (and also not much).

edit: I forgot to mention a 3g dose a day after my 675. I didn't realize there was cross tolerance beforehand, and the 3g did almost nothing for me in terms of visuals but it did put me in another headspace.




I find this hard to believe, who tested your tabs? what experience with LSD do you have to measure what 100ug let along 450ug should do?...OH 450ug was your first dose? uh huh....i think i see what is happening here...
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Bill_Oreilly said:
Korean Jesus is the type to believe his dealer that he has 300ug hits.

I'm just saying man..learn to swim before jumping in the pool.

Open mind is right. I wish I had it in me to be so nice when telling a noob he is totally exaggerating.

What next.. serotonin syndrome?

Sorry..I couldn't resist




OH shit so does someone else...
I try to be nice, but this thread is suspect. and reading OPs other posts its nothing more than bullshit.

Quote:

Korean Jesus said:
Is it ur hobby to stalk my posts and make inane comments?




No one is stalking u, but some users when active will come across many posts from the same user. When these posts raise red flags; refer to above.

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Korean Jesus said:
"That's not how it works" according to whom? Look, I respect that you're an experienced pyschonaut. But I can't take you seriously when you use bad faith arguments like me "asking mods for drugs," when you're the one who convinced me to do it. And for the record:

Yeah, dumb of me. But keep it real.

I'd love to take you seriously but the vast majority of your comments on my posts are simply trolling. Just chill man, lol. If you don't like me you don't have to give me advice :smile:




Umm i have no idea about the accusations being described here, but if you were actually dumb enough to PM a mod with the intent of procuring DMT then wow...
No one is trolling you, but the shit you are saying(in this thread and others) shows exactly how inexperienced and foolish you are.
Maybe stick around and read more before you decide to post. You sound like a :underage:.

Bill can be short and sometimes rude, but in my browsing of the forum he seems to be a straight shooter.

again u claim 450ug was your first acid trip and 5g was your first mushrooms trip. Also your experiencing "slight visual distortions" and are "thinking of" laying of psychedelics.
Bitch please, just no.
:nojustno:

Damn my bullshit detector is getting some work in today.



Do you not know how to read? 450 was my third dose... jesus christ man, if you’re that dumb, just stop contributing. Better to shut up and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt...


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26405278 - 12/28/19 07:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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How much acid have you done? That’s the one that can really leave you with persisting visual stuff. I did a a lot of acid when I was 18-19 years old and for awhile after had some weird visual stuff going on. It’s mostly gone away but part of it is indeed permanent...it’s nothing too distracting though, very used to it now and don’t even notice it.

I don’t want to say as a fact that mushrooms couldn’t cause the same thing, but I’ve since taken many, many, more high dose mushroom trips than I ever did LSD. & I’ve gotten some visual phenomena in the days after said mushroom trips, but it always subsides/goes away. If you are mostly a person that trips shrooms, I’m willing to bet whatever is going on is going to go away before long. Its smart not to trip right now if you are worried about it though. The mushrooms will always be there later.



All my HPPD research seems to indicate that LSD causes it while shrooms dont, although boards like this seem to indicate that shrooms can cause it. Regardless I think I’ll lay off the crazy acid doses bc now that I think about it that’s when the visual effects started occurring. Shrooms seem like the better bet for large doses, more powerful & more introspective anyways.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26405282 - 12/28/19 07:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last time I tripped was 5g mushrooms almost 4 weeks ago, not including two .25g microdoses 1.5 and 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks before that, on friday, I dropped 675ug. The week before that I did trip a ton (2 fridays before 300, wed 150, fri 450).





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Those weren’t my first. My first was 300, then 150, then 450, then 675. Then 3g, then 5g.




:facepalm: if you knew English you would understand why this is suspect.

also if this account is any bit of true(its not, but ill entertain it) then stop doing drugs so often. Space your psychedelic use out to at least 1 week, 2 preferably, 4 or more to get the most out of it.


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Re: Is it safe for me to keep tripping? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26405294 - 12/28/19 07:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you not know how to read? 450 was my third dose... jesus christ man, if you’re that dumb, just stop contributing. Better to shut up and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt...




feel free to read my addendum, i did not see that post while reading through and becoming increasingly aggravated at your uninformed an sensationalized posts.

I will clear this up for you... Your 300ug, 450ug, or 675ug first acid dose or 3g or 5g first shroom dose(whatever the fuck it is) could be believable if the text that preceded and followed wasn't so silly.
Im only reacting to the shit you say bud, i have nothing against you and wish you well, but this "mild hppd" shit you claim is silly along with the dosages.

And now im arguing with and idiot and being beaten with experience eh?


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