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Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism.
    #26403498 - 12/27/19 07:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Its strange how I read about people quitting their addictions through mushrooms. Alcohol is not a huge problem for me but I have recognized that I have grown to have about 3-4 beers or equivalent in liquor per night over the last year. Ive never been a huge drinker in the past but that has changed for some reason.

Over the summer I took a 3g tea of GT and had a great experience and all. No real revolutionary experience of any specific sort. But I couldnt help but to feel the day after, I had absolutely no desire to drink a beer at all. I decided to not drink and I did for a few months straight. After that sort of glow of the inspiration to not drink fell out, I eventually did start drinking again. I knew I would tho I just wanted a break but during that time, alcohol was somewhat repulsive and I was proud of that.

The last time I took mushrooms I took like 1.5g dry. About 4 hours later I decided to drink beer, after the mental climax. It took 2 whole beers before I even felt buzzed. It was only after half of the 3rd one where I felt the boozey warmth. But it was like a solid wall between me and alcohol. I could see it, I could feel it, and I could just know it was real.

Conversely I may not want to not drink forever. First of all I live in an area known for hundreds of craft beers and I like to drink them as a recreational social activity. I also like to think I have an adventurous pallet and I have had some damn good tasting beer before. I just dont want it every day to feel ok because that is the problem.

I have some vacation to use in the next few days and I really want to do a 4g+ trip for many reasons really. Primarily for the sake of the thread, I want to know if I can capture that great feeling of not looking forward to drinking alcohol on a daily basis. I want to get a hold of my head again. Dont we all seek revelation of some kind through mushrooms anyways? Well this is my current personal goal. Has anyone else had the same experience?


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26403659 - 12/27/19 08:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Part of what you need to do is work on not drinking in sober life when the urge to not drink wears off.

This is integrating the experience into your life. It's not magic quitting anything and some work needs to be put in to be successful.

Perhaps changing your social circle or not socialising at craft beer places will help. If all your friends are drinkers chances are you will drink with them. Finding others who's lives don't revolve around alcohol helps a lot. Hobbies, clubs, exercise, sports, etc can help you find this.

Taking large doses as needed will keep giving you the same message(increasing in volume if you don't heed it) and likely give you that afterglow that helps manage not wanting to drink, or smoke tobacco in my instance.

Working on this message in sober life is part of integrating the experience. We put work in under the influence and also need to put in work in our sober lives.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26403674 - 12/27/19 09:02 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Not with alcohol but I use to drink robotussin and sometimes high-ish doses of antihistamines when I was younger as a means to escape and psychedelics definitely helped me knock that habit. I never did it daily but often enough that it was a problem. Id drink a lot of it on some occasions-like two bottles of max strength, spacing the doses for self potentiation-and ended up giving myself what I believe was some kind of dissociative disorder. Well probably not quite that but Id be mentally/emotionally checked out to some extent for weeks or months after some of those trips but I enjoyed that cause I didn't like being "here". It wasn't good, definitely used it as an escape from my depression/anxieties. Psychedelics helped knock me out of that loop and regain my attachment to my own emotions. In a positive way that allowed me to accept my own thoughts and feelings and the ability to actually work through things to some extent within myself. They can definitely help you get a hold of your head again when your in a bad spot.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26403714 - 12/27/19 09:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Not with alcoholism but definitely had good results with other things. I take 1 large dose (4-7g) every 30 days or so. Sometimes I only make it to 3 weeks. Id prob do it more if there wasnt such a tolerance issue. Anyhow, its certainly helped with anxiety and depression. Its also helped me understand whats important in life and whats really not. Sometimes I just trip balls but sometimes I go in with the intention of thinking about the things bothering me and what I can do about them. Or ill think about what my kids will remeber about me when im gone or things like that that have really made me think and make changes. I think if you take a large dose and concentrate your trip around asking yourself why you drink, what are the pros and cons, how does it affect the people around you, etc. And rwally deep dive into it it could certainly be beneficial. Just my 2 cents.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26403758 - 12/27/19 09:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Late last year, I had worked up to some pretty big dose trips. I remember that after one of them,
I went to get a beer from the fridge and when I tasted it, I found it completely repulsive.
I ended up pouring it out. I gradually returned to drinking over the following days, but still
felt like something had happened.

In January, I had another big trip. When it was over something felt different but it took me
a few hours to realize that I no longer had any desire to drink. It's been 11 months without
any alcohol. I didn't really quit. And I don't say that I am "sober". I just haven't
wanted anything to drink. Even now as I type this, I am trying to imagine drinking a beer
and it has no appeal whatsoever.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: Asura]
    #26403779 - 12/27/19 10:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm four years sober from crippling alcoholism and I feel occasional shrooming helps my case. I'm interested in doing MDxx products again at some point too, I quit drinking just days after a fat MDA dose. Wonder if that helped make something click up there. I've given it some serious thought while tripping and seemed to only reassure me that staying off booze is the literal BEST thing I could do for myself. I've heard others say absolutely any substance is triggering for them so tread lightly.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: bobbysue]
    #26404050 - 12/28/19 03:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I 100% quit smoking cigarettes because of psilocybin mushrooms!
I would say that is one of the greatest assistance the mushrooms have blessed my human with.
They made me cold turkey quit. I can't stand cigarettes now, they are rancid and I can NEVER see myself smoking cigarettes again.

I was that kid who walked along the road and picked cigarette buts off the road if I did not have a pack...

As far as alcohol goes, it's not my drug of choice.

Alcohol is not even that great of a buzz, makes you fell all numb and gross. :shrug:
I only really even drink if I'm hanging around stupid alcoholic mates... And even now days I have to really watch myself and not hang out with people that do nasty drugs that I really don't want to get involved with anymore.

My drug of choice is cannabis, shrooms and LSD is probably my favorite drug but I try not to use LSD often, I would rather eat psilocybin mushrooms. Those are the main drugs that I do by choice/alone.

Choose your own buzz, don't copy other drugs that people do just because they want you to drink alcohol with them for social status or to fit in or whatever. :shrug:

Have some self control. I don't like how drugs are social things.

People get led astray by bad company easily, you are who you surround yourself with, the human being is naturally energy sensitive and sponges/copys from peers.

Now days I gravitate towards people that are not self destructive and have bad habits, can't be picking up on other peoples silly self destructive habits. I like people who have their heads screwed on straight. I spent enough time hanging around countless drug junkies and shit peer influences in my life and got no where in life.

It's very important to have a selective social circle of humans.

Lots of humans are just trash and a waste of oxygen with no real purpose but to consume un-healthy food/drugs and be assholes. Best not hang around them and just do your own thing.

If you want to quit the self destructive habit of consuming alcohol, you can. You just gota want it bad enough to do it.

If I want something, if I truly desire something, I pursue it.

Shrooms ain't really shit if you can not integrate what they teach you about yourself to become a better human.

They are only the tools to re-wire and re-craft your brain, sober life is THE REAL TRIP.

Only when you are SOBER you can take action and improve you life.

While tripping you are generally going to be useless and scattered.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26404251 - 12/28/19 08:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Great responses. For me the social aspect doesnt really influence my decision to drink. If me and friends are out at a bar and I volunteer to DD, than Ill do just that with no issues. Ive never been so addicted to anything to tell my friends they cant do that in front of me. Even when I quit smoking reefer I could be around it just kindly pass it beyond me. I have always stayed away from those wreckless guys that will do anything and everything to get fucked up. Its just the moment when I come home and close the door, what else is there to do? Thats the hard part.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26404271 - 12/28/19 08:35 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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Ive never been so addicted to anything to tell my friends they cant do that in front of me. Even when I quit smoking reefer I could be around it just kindly pass it beyond me.



Yeah I haven't smoked pot for a while but I still love the smell. Smoke that shit around me all you want lol. The only thing I don't like people doing around me is smoking ciggerettes and that's only because the second hand smoke effects me as well. I can literally feel my mucus membranes in my nose and shit inflaming when I'm around even a little bit of tobacco smoke. Anything that doesn't effect me like people drinking or whatever I'm fine with. I have one beer and I get depressed but I don't get a second hand buzz from someone drinking next to me so that's no problem lol.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26404470 - 12/28/19 10:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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RogerTheRetard said:
Alcohol is not even that great of a buzz, makes you fell all numb and gross. :shrug:





Pretty much sums it up.

@Cosmic also wanted to mention that I never set any intentions with my trips to quit
alcohol. Like I didn't meditate on it or anything before hand. I just wanted to trip.
It just kind of happened by itself.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: Asura]
    #26404825 - 12/28/19 02:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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@Cosmic also wanted to mention that I never set any intentions with my trips to quit
alcohol. Like I didn't meditate on it or anything before hand. I just wanted to trip.
It just kind of happened by itself.




Exactly


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: Asura]
    #26405128 - 12/28/19 05:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Asura said:
Quote:

RogerTheRetard said:
Alcohol is not even that great of a buzz, makes you fell all numb and gross. :shrug:





Pretty much sums it up.

@Cosmic also wanted to mention that I never set any intentions with my trips to quit
alcohol. Like I didn't meditate on it or anything before hand. I just wanted to trip.
It just kind of happened by itself.




Ditto with me and the cancer sticks...


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26405451 - 12/28/19 10:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I drank pretty heavily for a decade. The trick to stopping is just realising the deception that is alcohol. It doesn't actually feel good, the wanting of it is all there is once it gets you.

Psychedelics can help as a reality check but they are not a cure. The only cure for alcoholism is not wanting to drink. Even not drinking doesn't fix the problem. Just wanting to avoid the negative consequences of drinking is not enough. If you have to tell yourself a thousand times that you hate alcohol and every part of it is misery, then do that. Know the truth that all drinking is suffering. It's liquid pain. Every sip is pain, never let that truth be forgotten.


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Re: Hi Im Cosmic Eye and I want to use mushrooms to cure alcoholism. [Re: Northerner]
    #26409302 - 12/31/19 12:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

First of all, I wouldn't call 3 or 4 beers a day chronic alcoholism. It sounds like more a social habit you want to moderate or quit.

My experience is that despite the industry that has arisen around "recovery," if you really want to quit something then you just quit when the time is right and you have had enough.

That is the way it was for me with cigarettes and harder drugs.

There is evidence that DMT therapy can work for people who misuse dangerous street drugs to excess in order to distance from extreme trauma or abuse or other life experiences that are so painful, people choose not to be present in their own lives.

3 or 4 beer a day does not seem in that category to me. Psychedelics may help but perhaps you just need to make life choices that work for you rather than looking for something outside yourself.

My 2 cents at any rate. Good luck with this.


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