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Too Many Shrooms?
    #26403882 - 12/28/19 12:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

This is going to be a long read, but if you have some time there may be something in it for you to learn from or laugh at.

So...last year i was hunting for shrooms for a good few months. Finally got a friend to get a hold of somebody. Kid was only 17 years old, said he had some cubensis for cheap, and LOTS of them. I asked her to grab me a few oz's and I thought nothing of it, being so young and having so many i figured he'd just picked em.

After weeks of trying to actually get in physical contact with the kid, he finally drops off the bag. I inspect em, and all looked well, so i took em home very excited.

I decide to give em a test try that night with a small dose despite craving a good heavy trip for months. I've been experienced with cubes for about 10 years, with well over 150 doses, so i thought i was more than fine taking a 1.7 dose of "cubensis"... I was wrong.

I weighed out 1.7, thinking taking half a dose (i usually take a full eighth) will be a very easy short lived trip. I chow em down and start watching music videos on youtube from my phone. 20 mins after i take em i start to feel a little weird. I keep having hot flashes and I notice my vision is getting brighter and brighter.

I decide to stop watching Youtube and put Natural Born Killers on my DVD player. I bend over, put the disc in, and when i stand up i start seeing stars. Not really the kinda stars you see when you get hit on the head, but like glitter falling from the sky. little balls of light everywhere. i look up at the ceiling to see where they're coming from and as i lift my head, i get this weird feeling in my jaw. A real heavy "couch lock" feeling starts to overcome my body.

at first i thought it was cool. It felt comfortable and warm almost at first. so i let go and let it start to "flow through me" if you will. it started at my jaw, made its weight to my neck and shoulders, down my stomach and too my legs. Soon as it hit my hands and feet the feeling totally changed...soon as i completely let go, it turned on me in the blink of an eye. This all happened in less than 5 seconds.

It went from a warm comfort, to a tingly numbing feeling, Like when your foot falls asleep; My heart rate slowly started to go up; my vision was still going brighter and brighter, now to the point it was going blurry and hard to see through the white; the tingly feeling is now focused in the back of my neck and as the feeling gets worse it coincides with a ringing in my ears that eventually deafens me completely; my body is covered in sweat in less than a minute, completely covered but i couldn't FEEL it; I couldn't feel anything at this point, i was deaf from the ringing, blind from the bright contrast in my vision, and the tingly feeling took over where i could no longer feel the floor under me or understand how my body was supposed to use itself to stay upright.

i drop to the floor on one knee and then fall backwards, I can barely catch my breath. Im trying to force air into my lungs but it feels like the blood isn't carrying it to my brain or something, cuz i still feel like im suffocating badly. I decide to close my eyes and let go and hope it just goes away, but it brought me to nothingness when i let go. i experienced absolute nothingness. i saw black, and my thoughts went =BLEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWP- and i was basically "dead" for a second is the only way i can describe it. I've experienced EGO death before, I've been to "the tunnel", this wasn't that...

Soon as my thoughts came back i jumped up like "whoa wtf just happened?!?"
I could still hear the ringing, but i could now see enough to navigate myself around my room a bit. I could focus enough outside of my own vitals to see and know where i was at this point. I was breathing fine but still feeling like i was overheating badly. I turned on the fan, poured a glass of water on a towel i had in my room and put it over my face and laid down on my bed. My fingers and feet were tingling in the tips with a sharp pain. and i kept feeling like i was sinking into my bed and needed to catch myself from falling even tho i was already sturdy and laying flat.

I put on Darkside of the Moon, and after the album i was sane enough to eat some food and go to bed. Exhauseted.


So...In the end i was left with so many questions, This all happened a year ago and I'm still trying to find out what strain these shrooms are. I've taken them countless times since then at doses around .6 to 1 full gram and had full blown trips. i experienced another trip somewhat like the one i just described at a dose of 1.5 grams.

I still have lots of them, but will only be using them for microdosing at this point. This is not a friendly strain, and i have no fucking clue where they came from or how this is even possible really. The kid is out of touch for me so i could never ask these questions, i'm wondering if i can find any answers here. I will upload some pics at some point when im home where my stash is. Maybe somebody can ID them.

What keeps me curious is...I know the kid isn't from America. And lived a weird life out of the country where he grew up with weirdo religious "monks" if you will. He learned to grow the shrooms from his homeland, and possibly brought the spores here from there. I believe i heard him say he grows them on LOGS when we spoke at first. I didn't think anything special of it at initially, until i realized it's such a strange strain and then read that growing on logs isn't normal. i COULD be wrong about what he was saying about the wood tho, he might have been just trying to say he was using wood chips. but i had the impression he was saying logs, which i read IS possible, just rare. Whole thing is weird and very "alien" to me and i have met NOBODY in my personal life who's experienced a mushroom so strong.


Anyways, sorry for the long read, any reply would be much appreciated, even if it's just to tell me i talk too much. ;P


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Re: Too Many Shrooms? [Re: airbag]
    #26403890 - 12/28/19 12:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If they were growing on logs or wood chips they definitely weren't cubensis. Wood lovers are known to have weird paralysis like effects. I've never heard of anything quite like this though. Possibly some sort of bacteria from the wood. Or possibly some strange active compound within the wood lover itself.


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Re: Too Many Shrooms? [Re: airbag]
    #26403902 - 12/28/19 12:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It sounds like some sort of poisoning, honestly. Perhaps from a similar species? Perhaps a panaeolus species got mixed in? I mean, this person may have accidentally collected some other species?


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Re: Too Many Shrooms? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #26403914 - 12/28/19 01:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah doesn't really sound normal.


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Re: Too Many Shrooms? [Re: airbag]
    #26403926 - 12/28/19 01:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey OP, this doesn't sound normal in my experience. Are you 100% sure you ingested what you thought/were told you did? This does happen more often than you'd think.


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Re: Too Many Shrooms? [Re: airbag]
    #26403946 - 12/28/19 01:48 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Even when you pick wild mushrooms yourself, let’s face it, we’re not Paul Stamets, so there is always a possibility of picking the wrong mushrooms. I may have been lucky in the past because anything I’ve picked that wasn’t a liberty cap has obviously been a non-psychoactive similar looking species.

So for amateurs like us, the only way to be certain you are getting what you think you are getting, is.....TO GROW THEM YOURSELF.

Take care, stay safe, and have fun.
DJ Ed.

P.s. reading Michael Pollan How To Change Your Mind. He meets PaulmStamets and they go hunting for Psilocybe Azurescens (discovered by Paul, and named after his son). He warns Pollan that they are very strong and can cause paralysis is some people, for the duration of the trip. So warns that with this species, it is crucial you are in a safe place; wouldn’t want to be outdoors get paralysed and die of hypothermia. I think this species grows on manure, but I do know that mushrooms are grown on logs - just not sure cubensis is ever grown on logs though.


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Re: Too Many Shrooms? [Re: azramb]
    #26404066 - 12/28/19 04:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

azramb said:
If they were growing on logs or wood chips they definitely weren't cubensis. Wood lovers are known to have weird paralysis like effects. I've never heard of anything quite like this though. Possibly some sort of bacteria from the wood. Or possibly some strange active compound within the wood lover itself.




:whathesaid:

I see no reason to believe you ingested anything but active mushrooms.  Likely woodlovers.

It doesn't sound like poison.  Just good strong shrooms you weren't expecting.


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Re: Too Many Shrooms? [Re: airbag] * 1
    #26404821 - 12/28/19 02:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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a tingly numbing feeling, Like when your foot falls asleep; My heart rate slowly started to go up; my vision was still going brighter and brighter, now to the point it was going blurry and hard to see through the white; the tingly feeling is now focused in the back of my neck and as the feeling gets worse it coincides with a ringing in my ears that eventually deafens me completely; my body is covered in sweat in less than a minute, completely covered but i couldn't FEEL it; I couldn't feel anything at this point, i was deaf from the ringing, blind from the bright contrast in my vision, and the tingly feeling took over where i could no longer feel the floor under me or understand how my body was supposed to use itself to stay upright.

i drop to the floor on one knee and then fall backwards, I can barely catch my breath. Im trying to force air into my lungs but it feels like the blood isn't carrying it to my brain or something, cuz i still feel like im suffocating badly. I decide to close my eyes and let go and hope it just goes away, but it brought me to nothingness when i let go. i experienced absolute nothingness. i saw black, and my thoughts went =BLEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWP- and i was basically "dead" for a second is the only way i can describe it. I've experienced EGO death before, I've been to "the tunnel", this wasn't that...

Soon as my thoughts came back i jumped up like "whoa wtf just happened?!?"
I could still hear the ringing, but i could now see enough to navigate myself around my room a bit. I could focus enough outside of my own vitals to see and know where i was at this point. I was breathing fine but still feeling like i was overheating badly.





From your description it sounds like you experienced low blood pressure or a rapid drop in blood pressure.

All of those aspects I underlined can be symptoms & signs of low blood pressure.

-Tingling
-Ears ringing
-Sweating/feeling hot, becoming drenched in sweat rapidly.
-Visual perception fading out, becoming hard to focus, or experiencing "tunnel vision".
-Dropping to the floor.
-Feeling like you aren't getting enough oxygen to your brain. (with low blood pressure, that's exactly what's happening)
-Blacking out momentarily.


All of that sounds totally like low blood pressure to me :shrug: .



After being around this place for many years I've learned that this is a somewhat regular occurrence with mushrooms....I literally see threads about something like this happening AT LEAST once a month, and I have for many years now.

Mushrooms can make blood pressure all wonky. It can be unpleasant, especially if you don't know what's happening.

I've experienced it myself a few times over the years...from mushrooms, from LSD, and from cannabis. (tho I feel I naturally have relatively low blood pressure, I feel I'm a bit more prone to such things happening)...The first few times I experienced low BP I wasn't sure what was going on but I am very familiar with the signs/symptoms now.





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Re: Too Many Shrooms? [Re: airbag]
    #26405972 - 12/29/19 09:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You had much prior experience with woodlovers like ps cyan?

I found that 1.7g of ps cyan would literally floor me, not unlike your experience, and I reckon the intensity would have been massively amplified if I had been expecting a mild dose from cubes.

I'd be surprised if you ate any poisonous species by mistake because usually that shit induces mad vomiting and cramps


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Re: Too Many Shrooms? [Re: mu5h13]
    #26406305 - 12/29/19 12:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It definitely sounds like the peak of a good dose of those mushrooms brings on an adrenaline overload. I'm very familiar with the hot white tingling blackout sensation and I know for me it is always due to an overload of endorphins. It happened the first time I broke through on DMT and came back to my body. It's happened to me a lot after (and definitely not before) racking up a big pain tolerance - I would get blood drawn and if it was a substantial amount I would get hot, dizzy, nauseous, sometimes faint with white lights as a response to bleeding so much and not feeling pain.
I've also fainted on a bunch of cubensis before but I was skateboarding really hard, not just sitting around so the blood pressure effects there make a lot of sense.
I'm also super familiar with the sparkle visual, it's happened to me every time I've taken 25i and I still get brief flashbacks just of the flying sparkles.
Also it seems maybe there is a possibility this teenager doesn't know what he is really talking about and spun a story


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