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Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars
    #26403627 - 12/27/19 08:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



A few kernels on the surface of the spawn in my quart jars are always slow to colonize and can delay the process while I wait for them to finish; especially with less aggressive strains.

I was wondering if anyone has a strategy to prevent this from happening?

Or do you not worry about a few uncolonized kernels and spawn the jars?

Scrape them out with a spoon maybe?

Thanks for any feedback!


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: Bikerfool]
    #26403708 - 12/27/19 09:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If I have slow or uncolonized kernels I shake and see if it recovers. If it doesn't recover it prob wouldn't make good spawn. I have a GATZ quart that was like that. Real fast on agar but slow on grain. I shook and it recovered and has colonized everything but I thought for sure it would go bad after the shake. It's been a month since I a2g... I'm still hesitant to spawn it tho.


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: spiritlands]
    #26403725 - 12/27/19 09:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hmmm.. a 2nd shake.. that's an idea. I'm not sure if it would speed up the process though. I haven't had any trouble spawning and fruiting these less aggressive strains. I assume the surface grains are just getting a bit dried out.


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: Bikerfool]
    #26403766 - 12/27/19 10:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What are you using for FAE/filtration? The other 99% of the grains seem to be doing fine, so I wouldn't worry about them.


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: Bikerfool]
    #26403794 - 12/27/19 10:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Happens to me all the time.
I used to shake and then allow to recover for a day, but now I just spawn em like that and havent noticed any problems yet.

Is it a risk?
I can't say with any certainty that it's not. All I know is that I've personally been getting away with it.

I like to think, when you shake before spawning, the mushroom mycelium ends up all over the grain and will take hold before any mold has a chance to germinate.
Either that or the substrate just reaches full colonization before mold germinates.


I hate to encourage bad habits. Obviously 100% colonization is always your best bet but just thought I would share my experience.


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: ComebackKid]
    #26403826 - 12/27/19 11:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:  Ive made a bad habit of spawning jars with a few dozen grains left uncolonized. Never had an issue with contamination before.:shrug:


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: Smartattack]
    #26403833 - 12/27/19 11:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I just spawn them, usually just a bit dry under the filter


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: cronicr]
    #26403843 - 12/27/19 11:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You filthy filthy people.... I do the same shit lol.


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: gizmo1]
    #26403871 - 12/28/19 12:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yep.  Most of my wbs jars end up with a few and they get spawned.  Haven't had any issues.  No biggie.:bongload:


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26403963 - 12/28/19 02:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I recently tried some different SFD configurations and noticed the top layer of WBS drying out a bit at around 95% colonized. Each seed has some myc on it, but not fully covered.
I waited a but for other jars to finish but will just be spawning them tomorrow. I'm doing mini monos with 1 quart per tub so at this point there is no reason not to give it a shot.

I say go for it and see what happens. If this is a recurring issue, I was look into the moisture content and retention of the jars.


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26403971 - 12/28/19 02:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think I have had a perfect jar yet!!!!

Spawn it !!!


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: Barrel]
    #26404101 - 12/28/19 05:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Barrel said:
What are you using for FAE/filtration? The other 99% of the grains seem to be doing fine, so I wouldn't worry about them.




I use a synthetic filter disc over a lid with 4 x 1/16" holes drilled in it.

Thanks guys, I won't stress about it.


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Re: Dealing with uncolonized surface kernels in quart jars [Re: Bikerfool]
    #26404121 - 12/28/19 05:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I sometimes have this problem too, but it's not a biggie, I just pick out the uncolonised grains and spawn, but I don't think it is even necessary.


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