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Friends complain that my cubes are too soft ....
    #26403149 - 12/27/19 03:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hello....
i grow cubes from 1 year and i have 2 strains ( as i live in central america is pretty difficult for me to get spores . Recently i have got some stronger mushrooms but i did not grow yet)  1 from  costa rica and 1 from holland . They are not too strong . Actually when are fresh are pretty good but when i dry it they loose power .
If i do not get breakfast and i eat a dry gram i feel it for 2 hours : not too intense but is pretty nice feeling .... to have a strong trip i need 3 or 4 grams .
How do you think? Too soft ?

I have friends that likes drugs and they eat my mushrooms drinking beers and cocktails and after complaining that they can't feel the 'room .... i always say that mixing mushrooms with food and alcohol is not the best !!! How do you think?


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Cristianosolo]
    #26403182 - 12/27/19 03:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

How do you dry them?
If you are drying at a high temperature it could decrease the potency.
3 or 4 grams is needed for a strong trip  for regular cubensis.
Explain to your friends the simplicity of if they have a full stomach, or even have eaten any food beforehand..it will slow the digestion of the mushrooms.
If they want a strong trip, eat 3-4 grams on a fairly empty stomach.
Iโ€™ve had experiences where alcohol had canceled the effects of mushrooms, Iโ€™ve also had experiences where I still felt mushrooms while drinking.


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Thegrimraper]
    #26403261 - 12/27/19 04:56 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Heat doesnt decrease potency,  drying at 160-180 is ideal ,if your fan drying that can decrease potency , improper storage and genetics will also effect potency


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Marmie]
    #26403309 - 12/27/19 05:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I feel the same about this actually. 3 grams (Golden Teacher tea) dont make me truely trip, but close. Eating it raw just feels like alot to handle for me. Need me some Pans Cyan for the 1g to 3g equivalant!


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Cristianosolo]
    #26403439 - 12/27/19 06:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Cristianosolo said:
If i do not get breakfast and i eat a dry gram i feel it for 2 hours : not too intense but is pretty nice feeling .... to have a strong trip i need 3 or 4 grams .
How do you think? Too soft ?



Seems like pretty normal potency for cubes. Some people are obsessed with strong trips. Tripping hard is all well and good but sometimes just eating like a gram and chilling or going for a hike is perfect. If they seem a lot stronger fresh, maybe your drying them to slowly. Just tell your friends to eat more if they want to trip harder lol. Make tea if eating all the mushrooms is to hard on the stomach. Having a full stomach and drinking can effect the strength to some extent but not as much as some people say it does IMO. Mostly alcohol might just take the edge off of an uncomfortable trip. Not decrease it's strength so much. If you want more potency your best bet would be to either grow another species or isolate genetics on agar. But they sound pretty normal potency for cubes to me.


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: azramb]
    #26403564 - 12/27/19 07:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Heating over 160 F seems like overkill and Iโ€™d be worried about a breakdown in the good stuff.
Just my unprofessional opinion. Been eating, hunting, drying for for over 10 years now.

I agree I enjoy a medium to mild buzz, occasionally a strong trip. Hiking is amazing with a buzz off of some caps.


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Thegrimraper]
    #26403626 - 12/27/19 08:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah 160ยฐ might be to high. Especially for psilocin. Im not sure though as ive never tried. Just a big fan/lots of air flow and something absorbent like news paper works well. As long as theres enough air flow to dry it relatively quickly. A desiccant chamber might be better. I've read freeze drying is good. Yeah milder trips are great for being outside doing something active. Hiking is just great in general lol.


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: azramb]
    #26403834 - 12/27/19 11:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

160 is fine perfect for drying. It will not hurt the potency one bit. I make tea most of the time at a full boil and potency is always strong. The actives in mushrooms are stable at over 300f


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: SFS96]
    #26403846 - 12/27/19 11:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

True actually I make tea to and it doesn't seem to effect potency.


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Cristianosolo]
    #26403888 - 12/28/19 12:29 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Booze totally numbs the experience and too much of both will turn you into a dull incoherent (But still very fun) mess.

2-5 grams of cubes should be enough for anyone to get a good mind fucking.

Unless you eat them all the time or weigh 400 lbs


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26404020 - 12/28/19 03:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Buckomcdoogle said:
Booze totally numbs the experience and too much of both will turn you into a dull incoherent (But still very fun) mess.




Agreed. But you have to ask yourself, especially knowing there is not a synergy between alcohol and mushrooms, is why would anyone want to combine alcohol and mushrooms. Unless your intention is โ€œto get fucked upโ€, stick with either or.

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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26404034 - 12/28/19 03:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Oh most definitely, all of those times I had already been drinking and someone whips out a bag of fungus.

I personally do enjoy having A (1) beer during the come up if im doing a pretty big dose.


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Buckomcdoogle]
    #26404127 - 12/28/19 06:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Buckomcdoogle said:
Oh most definitely, all of those times I had already been drinking and someone whips out a bag of fungus.

I personally do enjoy having A (1) beer during the come up if im doing a pretty big dose.




Generally makes me feel like shite the day after, and combined with noshing on loads of munchies on the come down, after fasting for hours, I do like a glass of red wine on the come down, with a joint, and some Pink Floyd ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿป

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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26404612 - 12/28/19 12:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I dehydrate at 165F and toss in a jar with a desiccant packet when done. No potency issues. I used to subscribe to the "low and slow" mentality, but full convert to the "blast it fast" method now.


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: webweaver]
    #26405722 - 12/29/19 05:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I usually dry in this way: 24 hours in front of a fun ( in the shade ) and another 24 but sometimes 48 hours ( depending on the quantity ) in a hand made dryer at 38 celthius / 100 F.
After that , i make small chocolate with 1 g of cubes and 5 of cacao / sugar cane mixed in a cold process....
Sometimes i make teas and i keep in jars under vacuum for long time and is stronger .
Anyway , if ai get a fresh cub and eat it , is stronger than dry and eat but i think is normal.

I am pretty happy of my cubes. If i eat 2 or more grams i feel it a lot . 1 gram ii feel but not too strong.
I think that many people expect from 1 gram of mushrooms a strong trip like a drop of LSD but is not like this .


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Cristianosolo]
    #26405726 - 12/29/19 05:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I forget to say that i had a very strong trip with one gram of dry mushrooms one time in my life : was a penys envoy coming from USA  in a chocolate bon bon . Was very strong for  me , but not so nice: it gave me anxiety , and i did not enjoy . I could manage it but i dis not enjoy

I had my best trips with my cubes walking around in the contry side or in the mountain having a medium power trip !!!


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Cristianosolo]
    #26405761 - 12/29/19 06:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Got some not fully cured ones from a friend but they honestly didn't have even half potency of the stuff I got from another guy. Don't want to call him out on it over an eighth and ruin the friendship. But damn I did not get much out of them...


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: HolyBolete]
    #26405786 - 12/29/19 06:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Got some not fully cured ones from a friend but they honestly didn't have even half potency of the stuff I got from another guy. Don't want to call him out on it over an eighth and ruin the friendship. But damn I did not get much out of them...



What do you mean for " not fully cured" ?


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: Cristianosolo]
    #26405795 - 12/29/19 07:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

3 or 4 grams for a strong trip sounds like regular cubes to me

alcohol and shrooms is not a combo i like, it kind of sobers me up in a very weird way. same with dmt and lsd, not very fun


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Re: Friends complain that my cubes are too soft .... [Re: The_Brown_Wizard]
    #26406145 - 12/29/19 11:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Alcohol is just a shitty drug overall.
Don't @ me:lol:


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