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Should the USA adopt the Metric System?
    #26401960 - 12/26/19 06:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)




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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26401961 - 12/26/19 06:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I voted NO simply because I am a difficult American that can NOT see any way other than my own as being any better even if the whole thing makes no goddamn sense cuz ‘Murica!!:crankey:


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Amanita86] * 2
    #26401966 - 12/26/19 06:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yes because they need to take at lest one step out of retard.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Patlal]
    #26401972 - 12/26/19 06:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No!:kingcrankey:


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26401993 - 12/26/19 06:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I work on cars and I hate the American Standard system. Ive been working on cars 12 years and still dont truely know it!? Its especially a bitch when dealing with thread sizes. The standard to metric "conversion" fucks up Apollo missions and shit. 10mm nuts and bolts should build all vehicles, period.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Cosmic Eye] * 1
    #26402007 - 12/26/19 06:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So you’re saying our way is too advanced for you?:thatsinteresting:


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26402030 - 12/26/19 06:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

from a foot to a yard! what a smert system


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26402108 - 12/26/19 07:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Cosmic Eye] * 3
    #26402110 - 12/26/19 07:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26402114 - 12/26/19 07:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Only if we get metric time.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26402304 - 12/27/19 12:12 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Metric is magic.

Imperial is waste material.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26402342 - 12/27/19 12:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

We already have.  Machining and engineering uses both.  The fraction to metric gets to be hard guesses without a chart.

Having a narrow mind and using one system limits ones ability.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26402350 - 12/27/19 01:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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We already have.  Machining and engineering uses both.  The fraction to metric gets to be hard guesses without a chart.

Having a narrow mind and using one system limits ones ability.



This.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Aegis]
    #26402360 - 12/27/19 01:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Aegis said:
Quote:

Morel Guy said:
We already have.  Machining and engineering uses both.  The fraction to metric gets to be hard guesses without a chart.

Having a narrow mind and using one system limits ones ability.



This.




I don't see how using only one could limit one's ability.. It's just a system for measuring stuff. And in my head the metric seems a lot more logical and easy to use because all you do is multiply/divide by 10

1 inch = 0.08333 ft = 0.02777 yards? wtf america

The idea would be to simply have one that works

And both work. But metric is easier to comprehend and imperial is impossible to make accurate conversions without a computer
+++literally everybody but the us uses metric already stop being hipsters


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Garofone]
    #26402367 - 12/27/19 01:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well fractions get hard to remember and makes war time precision difficult due to being so small and drawn out.

They don't usually do that though.  Then there is lack of transference.  Not all the shit made fits the other shit.

Sometimes cars have both systems.  Being an international project of stealing and hostile take overs.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Garofone] * 1
    #26402375 - 12/27/19 01:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Use inches,feet for larger measurements rather than millimeters or centimeters. Use mm and cm for smaller measurements. Feet come in handy in the gap between cm and meters. Etc.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Aegis]
    #26402381 - 12/27/19 01:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I say fuck all that.  I didn't care about being smart with toys.  I don't really build things.  Kinda.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26402385 - 12/27/19 01:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No.  357 magnum.  454 rat.  9 inch rear.  55 gallon drum.  'Murica!


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: lavod]
    #26402395 - 12/27/19 02:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Orders

I go cheaply too.  That is why our inventions worked but then things are pricey to import.  We lose a lot doing that.

Like god damn ganja seeds.  Anerica held onto too many.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26402577 - 12/27/19 07:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Seeing as we crashed a Mars orbiter because of this it is high time we switch.

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What was the Mars Climate Orbiter?
Metric mishap caused loss of NASA orbiter. (CNN) -- NASA lost a $125 million Mars orbiter because a Lockheed Martin engineering team used English units of measurement while the agency's team used the more conventional metric system for a key spacecraft operation, according to a review finding released Thursday.






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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #26402582 - 12/27/19 07:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So uh, where were the inconsistencies that brought it down?


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26402586 - 12/27/19 07:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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So uh, where were the inconsistencies that brought it down?




Basically Lockheed gave them measurements in foot per second and they thought it was meters per second iirc...  the end result was instead of slowing into orbit it crashed into the surface


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: lavod] * 1
    #26402587 - 12/27/19 07:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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No.  357 magnum.  454 rat.  9 inch rear.  55 gallon drum.  'Murica!



I have to admit I prefer countries that use a mix like England. Pure metric countries still feel a little odd to me, but that's only because of what I grew up around and what feels better.

Metric is objectively a superior system, IMO.

Imperial just sounds cooler.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #26402588 - 12/27/19 07:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So it was a communications problem, not a measurement issue?


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26402590 - 12/27/19 07:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Metric is objectively a superior system, IMO.



They both work if you use them right..:themoreyouknow:


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #26402591 - 12/27/19 07:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I could use a hammer to put a screw into a wall too.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26402604 - 12/27/19 07:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Not correctly.:nojustno:


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 3
    #26402607 - 12/27/19 07:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I have to admit I prefer countries that use a mix like England. Pure metric countries still feel a little odd to me, but that's only because of what I grew up around and what feels better.

Metric is objectively a superior system, IMO.

Imperial just sounds cooler.




I agree. 

I very rarely watch porn.  Does foreign(to me) porn use the metric system?  If so they should adopt imperial IMO.  I think "Ram all 9 inches inside my ass" sounds better than "Ram all 225 millimeters inside my ass".


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: lavod]
    #26402609 - 12/27/19 07:40 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

As if I hadn’t made my case clear cut enough, my man lavod offering up the alley oop slam dunk..:booooom:


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26402642 - 12/27/19 08:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I'm all for going to metric. Right now, I work with a lot of metric parts, especially metric fastener. But I have to machine pockets, holes, parts in imperial units because metric tooling is too pricey here in the States. And most tool holding is imperial as well, so you get hit double. So if I design in metric I then have to program in Imperial because all my tooling is Imperial, or I have to convert Imperial tool sizes to metric, but that fucks up my entire tool table. It's a mess.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: christopera]
    #26402648 - 12/27/19 08:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

British wankers invented the imperial units.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #26402659 - 12/27/19 08:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I could use a hammer to put a screw into a wall too.




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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26402678 - 12/27/19 08:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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So it was a communications problem, not a measurement issue?



You can summarize 85% of failures as communications problem, according to the project management institute.. so yeah in summary a communications failure resultant from the use of two different measurement systems, to be complete.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: mycosis]
    #26402684 - 12/27/19 08:38 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I could use a hammer to put a screw into a wall too.




When you have a hammer in your hand everything looks like a nail. :cookiemonster:




Yeah some people must be walking round with dicks in their hands the way they fuck shit up


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    #26402689 - 12/27/19 08:43 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Not correctly.:nojustno:



I was with a guy this Christmas to got a ratcheting spanner set. I have one myself back in England, they're great. However I couldn't help but feel sorry for this guy; for he had twice the amount of them - a set for metric and a set for imperial - and that's just unneccesary IMO.

The sooner America stops holding out the sooner the transition can happen so that people don't have to have twice the amount of sockets and spanners!!

Do it for the love of your tools!


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26402695 - 12/27/19 08:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Every English car I've ever owned has had a mix of Imperial and metric fasteners. It's maddening!


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    #26402720 - 12/27/19 09:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Must've been old or very niche cars?


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26402728 - 12/27/19 09:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If the US and states could afford to replace every traffic sign, i'd say sure, but we're too busy squandering all our tax revenue blowing up innocent women and children.  Not to mention, it would take two rounds of signs over the next generation or two.  The first round of signs would be both Metric and SAE, followed 30-50 years later by another round of signs Metric only.


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    #26402733 - 12/27/19 09:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

A mix of both, yes. Multiple MG's and Morris's, then a number of English race cars as well.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: christopera]
    #26403319 - 12/27/19 05:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I work in engineering and it's really annoying how half of our customers have dimensions on their drawings in metric and half imperial. I was trained by a Japanese company so I'm used to metric. It's so much easier. 10 +/- 0.1 compared to 0.393701 +/- 0.00393701 come on goddammit why? Why?! The really annoying thing is when I'm working with some of the old timer engineers and I say we need to adjust something by 0.1 they are like what is that four thousands? Then I have to comvert it.

On the other hand I'm so used to mph and pounds it would be confusing to me if someone said they weight 80kg I would not even have a clue how much that is unless I looked it up. km/hr is pretty easy to convert to mph though. I'm fine with liters also.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: searching]
    #26403388 - 12/27/19 05:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think it’s the cost of converting everything and everybody to the metric system has been holding it up.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Antigov] * 1
    #26403397 - 12/27/19 06:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

A long time ago I helped install some German made crap where the drawings had been converted from metric to standard.

The tolerances were extremely tight and there were a bunch of off the wall measurements like 37/64".
It was a huge pain in the ass. :facepalm3:


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: mycosis]
    #26403405 - 12/27/19 06:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Lies, Germans don’t make crap.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26403412 - 12/27/19 06:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah you're right it was some super expensive rich kid school shit that went on Kenyon College in Ohio.

Over priced super nice way too tight of tolerances for a standard tape measure.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26403436 - 12/27/19 06:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Crazy_Horse said:
Lies, Germans don’t make crap.






cough *stihl* cough

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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Tulipslave]
    #26403614 - 12/27/19 08:22 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Knowing america I imagine that the US is holding out for everyone to come around to "our" system

Anything besides units of freedom (farenheit) is slavery though. Keep the celcius shit right the fuck off of me. Kelvin can go strait to Guantanamo


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Aegis]
    #26405600 - 12/29/19 02:11 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Aegis said:
Use inches,feet for larger measurements rather than millimeters or centimeters. Use mm and cm for smaller measurements. Feet come in handy in the gap between cm and meters. Etc.




:mindblown:

I'm having a hard time disagreeing with this.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26405673 - 12/29/19 04:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The standards of measurement in the United States are not a singular system, but a set of systems to which the metric system has already been adopted into. We largely know how to use the metric system already, unless you are older and have never been in a position where it was necessary.

Medicine and science use the metric system. We build things to metric standards when it's necessary to. A base 10 system is logical, yes. But the imperial systems are not illogical. There is no compelling reason to abandon the systems we've used for centuries when it comes to buying gas and building houses, beyond pleasing people's insecurities about it. 

A base 12 system for measuring distance makes complete sense if you've grown accustomed to it, it too is based on divisible numbers as a base 10 system is. It's only confusing if you're not accustomed to it. It's not all that complicated.

There is no immediate concern with our system of measurement. We largely adopted the metric standards when everyone else did where it mattered. It's taught in schools, it's known, we largely understand how it works without issue. If anything, knowing more than one system of measurement is better than abandoning older systems entirely.

We are already there with standards of measurement. We incorporated metric into our other systems and use it.

I wouldn't seriously suggest all nations legally make English the primary spoken language of their people to ease my understanding when they talk - but I don't think the use of Latin as a standard in the sciences is bad precedent to come to shared understanding. I wouldn't seriously suggest we make time a base 10 system to better incorporate it into the metric system for everyday usage - but I don't think the use of metric standards of measurement to define the second definitively is bad precedent. What I'm getting at is there seems to be a push from outside the US and from within to change these things... just because... other countries are doing it. Because it's easy to divide by 10. Because things get lost in translation.

Changing road signs from miles to kilometers wouldn't be groundbreaking. Buying milk and gas in liters instead of gallons wouldn't fundamentally change how we live. Fahrenheit is logically sound if you've grown accustomed to it, and measuring distance in base 12 works just fine and divides well. I'm with everyone else in believing that metric is logical in sciences and medicine. We already do that, we've adopted.

Our system of measurement isn't disabled, it never was. It makes sense if you know how to use it just like anything else. Other people not knowing how to use it is not an adequate reason to abandon it entirely. I'm happy to use it along side the metric system, and do.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: searching]
    #26405876 - 12/29/19 08:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

We should go to metric on nearly everything but hold out on a few like a pint of beer. Unless you want to be like Farva in Super Troopers and insist on a liter of cola.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26406575 - 12/29/19 03:47 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I enjoy abducting people into black holes.

It's a lot of fun to get freaky.  I know we all hang out forever to understand me.

It's a lot of fun being in a collider.


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Re: Should the USA adopt the Metric System? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26406583 - 12/29/19 03:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

For temperature maybe but for speed/distance hell no why should you have to multiply every time you need to know how fast you're going.


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