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Meditation as biofeedback.
    #26401258 - 12/26/19 07:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

This can be one of the more concerning parts of meditation.  The energy radiating of the body, the nervous system and other systems.  Listening to this seems to be a source of gravity and magnetization.

Sometimes I get an intense fear, like death could happen just going to sleep.  Other times there are visions, but the main thing now is the energy of the body.

It's complicated and it seems there's a resistance in the body.  So sometimes feeling and focusing on numbing sensations can bring pleasure.  Forgetting some other aspect can bring ecstasy, possibly even an ego trip.

The subtle forms of the physical universe can oh so boggle the mind.  Just being aware of the struggle is it's own power source from the heart.  Feeling like a great distance in a flash, sometimes it slows down.

I feel that sometimes this happens to people on nitrous oxide.  But one can become tense, this is a focus of letting go.  No need for the drug, but it does seem we all have a maintenance dose of lifestyle.


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Re: Meditation as biofeedback. [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26401315 - 12/26/19 08:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I guess I fear atheist experience the most.  It's there for purpose, to remember that life is a dangerous quest.  Staying alive I couldn't be more grateful for, but I find a lot of people suffering.  That causes attachment at times, the way we interact with each-others darker energies.


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Re: Meditation as biofeedback. [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26401949 - 12/26/19 06:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

There was a time where I befriended someone who later asked for guidance in his life. I didn't know he was an atheist at the time and I'd check his progress from time to time. He never took the time to work on anything, so I suggested that we talk more and try to fix whatever was keeping him from practicing. As I counseled him I realized that all of the issues we were discussing were worldly things - not having a job, not having any money to going to college, poor communication skills, hating the way he looked and calling himself 'ugly', not being able to get his wife to experiment with polyamory, drowning his problems in alcohol, and so on. Then one evening his mood got pretty dark and he eventually said "wouldn't it be fun if I get drunk tonight and go play on the highway". I said that he shouldn't, because killing himself wouldn't make his pain go away. He said it would because there'd be no one around to feel the pain. I replied, it'll hurt your spirit way worse than anything you're feeling now. And he said spirits aren't real and that he only believes in physics. At this point I suggested that he couldn't make progress towards his goals because of the imbalance caused by neglecting the spiritual half of reality, and he got really angry all of the sudden, it startled me. I apologized and said that if he was truly fine with the way things were, there was nothing I could do for him. And left it at that.

Some part of him wanted help, wanted things to change. That's why he asked for help.

I wonder why people willfully blind themselves like this.


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Re: Meditation as biofeedback. [Re: kneesocks] * 1
    #26401989 - 12/26/19 06:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It is amazing people hear me when I am drunk.  Sometimes it seems to require effort to talk.  I get afraid of that.

I think there are lower hells.  People fear being open in spirit.

I imagine things and sometimes gotta play that game.  People saw war and that is a lot of spirit.

Sonetims helping soneone is more pain.  We can thrive on pain.  People drink or take drugs for hurt.

There is no duality but man it gets elaberate.


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