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OfflineClark Nova
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Amanita Muscaria?
    #26401124 - 12/26/19 02:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hi all,

I was excited and surprised to come across what I assumed was an amanita muscaria near the American river in the central valley of California, growing in sandy soil among cottonwood trees. I proceeded to harvest around 30 mushrooms over the course of December, taking them home and drying them for eventual ingestion. Meanwhile I was peeking around on the internet for identification assistance and general information. Now I'm a bit concerned that I was so confident in what I was harvesting, as I've come to learn there are other amanitas that can grow alongside muscaria which are quite toxic. I have a few photos of what I harvested but I've only come to read about the more important characteristics, particularly above the bulb at the base of the stipe, since I've stopped photographing my finds.

The mushrooms have been between 4 and 9 inches in diameter, all with the characteristic white warts, but the color has varied from all red to red in the center fading to orange at the perimeter to all orange to yellow to pale platinum blonde. The stipes are of medium thickness and terminate in a sizeable bulb. Bruising doesn't produce a significantly darker color, but perhaps a slight translucence from breaking the tissue. There is a skirt just below the cap, connected to the perimeter in very young specimens.

I'm hoping someone can help me rule out, or rule in, any particularly nasty imitators (maybe gemmata) before I start bibbing infusions of these mushrooms. Thanks!



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Re: Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Clark Nova]
    #26401164 - 12/26/19 04:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You have Amanita Muscaria, but also some other Amanita species as well. Top left 1st row, right side 2nd row, middle 4th row, and the caps to the left & full specimen in the middle 5th row, look like Amanita Muscaria. The others all concern me, PLEASE DON'T INGEST :badshroom: wait for a TI or especially Alan Rockefeller to look at your photos and give their opinion.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Clark Nova]
    #26401755 - 12/26/19 03:09 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

please lay each of these out with a number next to it. For proper ID of each mushroom. You defiantly have some A. Muscaria, but some of those a concerning.


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    #26402080 - 12/26/19 07:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Your mushrooms are Amanita flavivolvata, just so you know, they are nothing like Psilocybe mushrooms or other Psilocybin containing mushrooms and if not prepared properly will make you sick.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Doc9151]
    #26402266 - 12/26/19 10:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Could the yellowish ones be Amanita gemmata?


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Re: Amanita Muscaria? [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #26402702 - 12/27/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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MachineElf1.618 said:
Could the yellowish ones be Amanita gemmata?



I believe that they are older specimens of A. flavivolvata judging by the pinkish tones.


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Re: Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Doc9151]
    #26402713 - 12/27/19 08:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Doc9151 said:
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MachineElf1.618 said:
Could the yellowish ones be Amanita gemmata?



I believe that they are older specimens of A. flavivolvata judging by the pinkish tones.



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I won't go so far as to make any guarantees.... but A. gemmata are not orange at all. They are a buttery yellow. Old faded specimens can be hard to distinguish, especially if you are comparing gemmata and A. muscaria var. formosa which are also yellow, but orange tones generally do indicate flavivolvata, at least in this area.


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