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    #26400587 - 12/25/19 03:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I am from michigan and i was hunting in central florida, madison county. I ran across these mushrooms i am not familiar with but have most of the characteristics of cubes, all except the blueing when bruised. Could you or somebody from central florida help me out, thanks.

I have more pictures, they were in a cow field, came in clusters, did not grow directly on the cow poop, but nearby, lots of them, big nipple on top, blackish gills, washed them before testing spores.

Im a chef so im actually hoping they are not cubes but edible.









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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26400635 - 12/25/19 04:25 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

They are not Psilocybe cubensis, that's for sure, that species doesn't grow wild in Michigan, neither are these similar in any way.

Gills look mottled, I'm suggesting Panaeolus perhaps close to P. semiovatus, but not sure. Can you take a spore print?


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Re: central florida [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26400756 - 12/25/19 05:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i'm from Michigan, these were found in central Florida in a cow pasture today,  michigan is a frozen waste land right now, no mushrooms growing there


The spores are a dark brown to black.


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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26400809 - 12/25/19 06:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

wow, this is that out there nobody knows, I thought this would be common place and somebody would pipe right up and identify, this was in central Florida, Madison county, cow field, lots of them, brown gold on top, big nipple, black underneath, dark brown black spores, creamy white stem, no blueing, grew around cow poop not from it, smells like a mushroom out of the store, probably tastes like one from the smell. Lots of them, sprung up after a couple days rain.


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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26400812 - 12/25/19 06:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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The spores are a dark brown to black.




Possibly Hypholoma species then, I guess there might be some buried wood in that field.
But the mottled, white edged gills and the somewhat pruinose stem puts me off.

Got a picture of the print?


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Re: central florida [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26400964 - 12/25/19 08:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Would any of these make sense for central florida, madison county area? cow fields, dont think wood is involved unless it was buried.

I think it's: marasmius oreades
Or perhaps phaeocollybia christinae , galerina , psilocybe muliercula , or omphalotus illud


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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26401153 - 12/26/19 03:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

these mushrooms were found in a cow field, not directly growing our of the cow poop, but in the vicinity. they are golden brown on top with a larger nipple like feature on the top. They are brown black on the bottom with a cream colored stalk. They smell like a store bought mushroom. They sprung up after a rain. I did not see any wood in the area, however I suppose some could have been buried many years ago when the field was prepared for cattle, but that many years ago, no wood was evident. The spore was very dark, dark brown, black, maybe a slight purple, but dark purple. Found in central to north Florida in Madison county. I'm a chef and need to know what they are and if they are edible.


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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26401159 - 12/26/19 04:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

o of the topography and the top of the shroom.

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    #26401168 - 12/26/19 04:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Don't know how much more information I can give you guys, I hope its the Christmas season that's keeping the knowledge away cause its been all me so far.

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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26401170 - 12/26/19 04:25 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I think it's: marasmius oreades




Nope, they have white spore prints.

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Or perhaps phaeocollybia christinae




Not Phaeocollybia, they grow for the most part in woodlands and have long so-called "tap roots" - i.e. the stem
extends in a tapering fashion far into the ground. You would have noticed when you picked them.

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galerina




Galerina species don't have purplish spore prints.

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psilocybe muliercula




They are not, and I strongly doubt you'll find them in a cow field in Florida. They grow in highly elevated forests
in Mexico and Central America, and they also stain blue which yours don't.

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omphalotus illud




Nope, not even remotely close to Omphalotus, which grows from wood and have funnel shaped caps and decurrent gills.

I'm pretty convinced your find is a Hypholoma species. You could return to the spot and poke around
in the dirt a bit to check for any buried wood. And also wait for some fellow Floridians for their input.
I'm stuck in Europe, so I haven't got much specialized knowledge of your local species.


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Re: central florida [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26401220 - 12/26/19 06:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with Anglerfish, looks like a Hypholoma spieces


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Re: central florida [Re: bloodycarcass]
    #26401231 - 12/26/19 06:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

are they edible?


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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26401247 - 12/26/19 07:15 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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are they edible?




Hypholoma capnoides is considered edible, but probably not too exciting taste wise.
Your find is most likely something like H. lateritium, whose edibility is questionable.

In other words, if you're looking for a culinary experience, drop these and keep looking.


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Re: central florida [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26401297 - 12/26/19 08:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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They are not Psilocybe cubensis
Gills look mottled, I'm suggesting Panaeolus perhaps close to P. semiovatus





Thats a grassy area of cowfield, area probably well fertilized buy dung. Dark gills, black spore print all that seems to suggest panaeolus. The nipple on the cap and golden brown color is odd though, maybe doc will chime in, he's a FL identifier.

Hunting for non active edibles in a cowfield is "dumb" for lack of a better term, also risky..no offense lol. Boletes are one of the easy to find common edibles..Hit a nature trail


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Re: central florida [Re: zerokool]
    #26401312 - 12/26/19 08:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Id say Look for oysters or lions mane on fallen hardwoods.


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Re: central florida [Re: bloodycarcass]
    #26401320 - 12/26/19 08:22 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i am down here hunting and these things looked similar to something a friend picks up north, there were tons of them, so I picked a few, shopping bag full thinking they were probably good.

I have so many varying opinions now ive lost my nerve about them.



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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26401348 - 12/26/19 09:01 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Could try taking some better pics and uploading them while waiting for others to chime in..i just wouldnt eat so many of something i wasnt sure of


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Re: central florida [Re: zerokool]
    #26401386 - 12/26/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn’t eat them, especially now that they’re all wet. At best, they are a very mediocre edible in prime condition (which they are no longer in), at worst you’re gonna give yourself a stomach ache and diarrhea. Chunk em.


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Re: central florida [Re: zerokool]
    #26401416 - 12/26/19 10:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Dark gills, black spore print all that seems to suggest panaeolus.




The prints provided look purplish to me. :shrug:


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Re: central florida [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26401695 - 12/26/19 02:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

This is not active mushrooms it's a Hypholoma species and microscopy is needed to determine the exact species because they are separated by spore size.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
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    #26403159 - 12/27/19 03:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

are they edible or too dangerous to identify properly?


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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26405666 - 12/29/19 03:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

gotta say, i'm a little disappointed with this site, I thought I would get a bunch of shoomers that could identify a common mushroom, kind of a waste of time and effort getting video, picture, spore prints.


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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26405721 - 12/29/19 05:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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are they edible or too dangerous to identify properly?




Quote:

central florida said:
gotta say, i'm a little disappointed with this site, I thought I would get a bunch of shoomers that could identify a common mushroom, kind of a waste of time and effort getting video, picture, spore prints.




If you are complaining about people not answering your latest question (as quoted above), I can say the reason
for this is obvious - the answer is already provided in lots of resources on the internet, and it is really easier
for you to google it than wait for a second hand answer. A typical question - "is it edible?" - will 9 out of 10 be
answered in an online description of a species. We've made a substantial effort to try and identify your find from your
provided information and picture, and it is likely Hypholoma lateritium. I don't want to sound condescending
here, but a quick google search will provide you with an answer, we have basically no obligation to "spoon feed" people
with easily accessible information.

This forum is made up of volunteers, people who share a common hobby. It's our spare time, and not like any
of us are employed. People will do their best to identify posted requests, and to be honest I think there is a
fairly good coverage of them here, and a generally high level of knowledge about mushrooms and how to treat them.
I see people all the time posting images of mushrooms on reddit, instagram, facebook and other media, and very
often the replies are ignorant at best, but in quite a few cases even dangerous - like people posting requests for
what are likely toxic species, and other people with absolutely no clue are encouraging them to eat said mushrooms.
That happens very, very rarely on the Shroomery's MH&I forum.

Remember, this site is an available resource that basically functions based on the efforts of numerous people, that
includes you as well. Feel free to harvest of the knowledge here, but it also requires some effort from you as well.
If you're not willing to put up a little effort (a minimal one in this particular case, if I may be so free) - then I can't
really promise satisfactory results.

None of us can do all the work for you, but will in all honesty and with high enthusiasm try to help guide you on your way.

Anyway, here are some online resources that might be helpful for you in the future:

http://www.mushroomexpert.com

http://www.mushroomobserver.org

http://boletales.com

https://micolosa.net/wp-content/uploads/claves-psathyrellas.pdf

Remember, patence and diligence is necessary in all things mycology.



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Re: central florida [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26408647 - 12/31/19 12:25 AM (4 years, 29 days ago)

Yeah I had a video of these on youtube once but never found out what they were, but they weren't active.  The ones I found had even almost melted into the grass around the caps. I've been deleted it though


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Re: central florida [Re: central florida]
    #26997841 - 10/22/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I came across some small ones. They were growing on the edge of some tall grass, near clovers.Any idea what these are?


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Hey All, I happened across this site while trying to identify a mushroom in my backyard. Since then it has sparked an interest in all things Mushrooms. Especially local varieties. I live in Central FL. If any of you would like to connect please message/email me. If you are local(Orlando area) maybe we can meet and go on a hunt.

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