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Offlinevinnie boombotz
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Re: custom grain mixes? What's the PERFECT mix? [Re: Failboat]
    #26402225 - 12/26/19 09:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

a couple reads you may find interesting



https://patents.justia.com/patent/20180000013

The above-described seed blends were determined by trial and error experimentation, with as few as three of the seeds' (chia, flax seed and canihua) giving improved results up to the preferred embodiment of the invention, all eight seeds', giving the greatest enhancement of already-improved yields available possibly with only three seeds. Upon review of the results of the trial and error selection, however, it is apparent to the inventor what part of the source of the substrate strength is: the incorporation of at least two complete protein seeds (complete protein's meaning all the essential amino acids for human consumption) combined with at least one structural seed gives the new and unexpectedy improved yield and purity results of the present invention. By “structural seed” is meant a seed with a relatively high cellulose content compared to all seeds generally, such as the cereal grains corn or rice or the notably high fiber flax seed. By including high cellulose corn, rice or flax seed (or all three) in the seed blend of the present invention, together with at least two complete protein seeds, a synergy occurs wherein the high protein substrate foments fastest and healthiest possible mushroom culture while the high cellulose grain provides structural integrity to the growth medium. Without the high cellulose grain constituent in the growth medium, the softer whole protein grains such as canihua and chia would tend to collapse in on themselves during sprouting, under the weight of the mycelial growth. For this structural reason, the corn, rice or flax seed component of the present seed blend will generally be at least 50% of the seed blend, more preferably at least 65% of the seed blend and ideally greater than 90% of the seed blend, with the one or more seeds other than corn, rice and flax seed making up the balance of the blend but always with at least three of the seed types' being present. The combination of at least one cellulosic seed (corn, rice or flax seed) together with a minimum of two high protein seeds (chosen from quinoa, canihua or chia) is the insight of the present invention at the heart of the selection of the seed blend.
https://patents.justia.com/patent/7178285


Suitable substrates for growing mushrooms include grains having high levels of anthocyanins, as noted by the color of the grain. By way of example, certain varieties of corn such as purple corn and black corn have high levels of anthocyanins. Purple barley and purple or black rice varieties are also known to contain high levels of anthocyanins.

Any variety of mushroom will benefit from the methods of the present invention, although due to the intended end use of the mushrooms the variety must be edible by humans. Suitable varieties include, but are not limited to, Coriolus versicolor, Ganoderma lucidum, Schizophyllum commune, Pleurotus ostreatus, Agaricus blazei, Lentinula edodes, Flammulina velutipes, Grifola frondonsus, and Codyceps sinensis.

In an additional aspect, the present invention provides a method of increasing the amount of selenium in medicinal mushroom biomass and mushroom mycelia comprising providing a substrate having selenium therein; and growing the mushrooms on the substrate. Substrates suitable for growing mushrooms and having high levels of selenium include, but are not limited to, certain varieties of wheat such as triticum teranicum.

In yet a further aspect, the present invention provides a method of increasing the amount of beta-glucan in medicinal mushroom biomass and mushroom mycelia comprising: providing a substrate having beta glucan therein; and growing the mushrooms on the substrate. Beta-glucans are a family of polysaccharides known in the art for having antitumor properties, cholesterol lowering ability, and other beneficial properties. Substrates having high levels of beta-glucans include, but are not limited to, certain varieties of barley such as waxy hulless barley.

In a further aspect, the present invention provides a method of decreasing the growing time of mushrooms, by providing a substrate rich in anthocyanins. Suitable substrates are those as described above. The mushrooms are grown on the anthocyanin-rich substrate, and the time to spawning and fruiting is decreased as compared to growing time on substrates not having anthocyanins. It has been found that the growing time can be decreased by 20–25%, using the methods of the present invention. This provides a significant advantage and benefit in the commercial production of mushrooms.

In an additional aspect, the present invention provides a method of increasing the potency of naturally-occurring medicinal compounds in mushrooms comprising: providing a substrate high in anthocyanins, and growing the mushrooms on the substrate. Preferably, the substrate is purple or black corn.

As used herein, the term “increased potency” means increased levels or amounts of the naturally occurring medicinal compounds found in mushrooms. It has been found that growing mushrooms on substrates high in anthocyanins such as purple corn or other purple or black pigmented grain has the unexpected benefit of increasing the amounts of certain desirable compounds already present in medicinal mushrooms, including, but not limited to, triterpenes, ganoderic acid, cordycepin, adenosine, and hydroxyethyl-adenosine.


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Re: custom grain mixes? What's the PERFECT mix? [Re: Mycoactive]
    #26402255 - 12/26/19 10:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Mycoactive said:
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John in WI said:
That's what I was looking for.  Grains that prepped similarly.  Sort of a cheaper alternative to WBS.  It isn't incredibly expensive--but it's significantly more than the chicken scratch I get mixed up.

As a test, I think I'll just take a few quarts of my scratch mix (it's oats, wheat, barley, and whole corn), give it a good 12hr soak and short simmer, and see where I'm at.




Those grains don’t prep similarly. It may work, but the corn requires more prep. The other grains will get hydrated much more readily, and they’ll become mushy at the point that the corn becomes well-hydrated. I imagine you’re still keen on trying this, so give it a shot, and let us know how it goes. Nothing better than firsthand experience.



Like he said, corn is probably a particularly bad choice to mix like that. It takes me a full hour of boiling to get it where it needs to be, anything less and it's rock hard and doesn't work as well and I did some larger kerneled corn recently and it took even longer. Of course if you prep them separately I don't think it'd be problem. I do like the idea of making use of that extra space in a corn jar though. I've actually been considering trying a corn/brown rice mix prepped separately and then mixed for that very reason.


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InvisibleAlchemycologist
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Re: custom grain mixes? What's the PERFECT mix? [Re: Kizzle]
    #26406167 - 12/29/19 11:26 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You can PC your corn for 45 minutes. Put the rocker on at the start (no venting necessary), get it to 15 PSI, start your timer, then pull the rocker off when your timer goes off. Drain, load and PC.

I do this for sclerotia. The big kernels make it easy to separate the stones from the grains.


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