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fazer0702
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ATB Salt Tech - Not enough salt?
#26400043 - 12/25/19 04:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am using Cybs' Hybrid ATB Salt Tek. I am tripling the amounts of each ingredient for this extraction. Only problem is, I messed up on some of the math (late night - brain not functioning correctly). I tripled everything except the vinegar and salt. Vinegar, I only doubled. Salt was left at original amount. My question is, what are the repercussions of using too little salt and too little vinegar?
I am currently letting the Naphta separate from the rest of the solution. Is it too late to add the missing amounts?
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Pandemoon
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Re: ATB Salt Tech - Not enough salt? [Re: fazer0702]
#26400076 - 12/25/19 05:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Salt is neglectable. It helps pushing the alkaloids into the naphtha, but you don't need any salt at all to get decent results.
I didn't use any salt for years and got good yields. Nowdays I add salt to the solution, as you need less pulls overall to get all alkaloids out. Without salt you might need 5 or 6 pulls to get all out, with salt after three or four pulls the solution is already suspended.
Too little vinegar might be critical if you boil the bark and then filter it out. But I doubt you get any problems. A small ammount of vinegar usually is enough to acidify the solution well enough to keep the alkaloids in the water.
I always make straight to base extractions. Means add the base directly to the water bark mix without any acid, leave the bark in the solution and pull from there. Leads to the same results, with less work. 
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Re: ATB Salt Tech - Not enough salt? [Re: Pandemoon]
#26400136 - 12/25/19 07:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I found using less lye works better than using the recommended amount. If tek calls for 50g lye, I will use about 35-40g
I realized yields are mostly dependant on the bark quality
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: ATB Salt Tech - Not enough salt? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#26400140 - 12/25/19 07:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Imo using ATB for MMRB is ridiculous compared to doing STB. If you're using something thats not MHRB ok fine use your ATB.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: ATB Salt Tech - Not enough salt? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26400151 - 12/25/19 07:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have never used MHRB unfortunately. Got into extracting after it became illegal. I know its still available somewhere, but i just go with the ACRB. The extra step is a little tedious but when you do it a few times you find faster ways to get the gunk out.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: ATB Salt Tech - Not enough salt? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#26400204 - 12/25/19 08:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mhrb isn't illegal
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: ATB Salt Tech - Not enough salt? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26400284 - 12/25/19 09:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well it's hard to find on the clearnet, whatever status it is at.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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