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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Shiithead]
    #26399127 - 12/24/19 01:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

im glad u did good in school this semester shiithead

ur gunna need a lot of it

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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: cannabinated]
    #26399131 - 12/24/19 01:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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to be fair you're being a dumbass



Quote of the year!


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Magenta]
    #26399132 - 12/24/19 01:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Cannabis is a strange drug because it interacts with the brain having downer effects but upper effects at the same time. This dual effect makes cannabis the most unpredictable drug. It's pretty harmless for the most part, but that unpredictability might turn some people off. I know it deters me sometimes because i fucking hate getting high and having one of those highs that put me in my mind where i can't stop thinking.

For me personally i'm a total weakling and like metalfaith weed fucks me up. If i take any more than two drags of a thin joint i'm couch locked. Sucks a little sometimes. I want to smoke bud with friends instead of drink. It's much kinder on my body and it has the potential to be as enjoyable but if i take two tokes, i tend to stop socialising.




I like Marijuana a lot better than alcohol because its a lot safer i dont do anything stupid when im high off marijuana but when im drunk im a complete psychopath


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #26399161 - 12/24/19 01:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I don't like weed, it makes me feel uncomfortable. Haven't smoked for a long time now.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest if other people partake though. Could not care less.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26399169 - 12/24/19 01:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

if you smoke it a lot it will stop making you paranoid after a while


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Shiithead]
    #26399176 - 12/24/19 01:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I smoked for ten years everyday pretty much. Age 14-26. Ill be 28 in a month so its almost 2 years without weed now.  Ive tried it here and there in those two years and i just cant enjoy it. I get trapped in my head thinking too much, i remember why i quit it.  It allows a person to stop thinking about what they have to do to become who they want to be. Its like taking a break on your path in life and building a house and staying where you were supposed to only rest for few minutes. 

Its not this way for everybody but thats how i see it now.  Partly because im terrified of becoming a lazy drug addict like i used to be.  At the same time i often reminisce about the good old days and all the creative shit i used to do and be involved in primarily because i was high all the time with no real goals in life which allowed my mind to explore questions many people never ask themselves in life. So i guess this is where it becomes about balance also.

I decided after ten+ years of everyday use, sitting around philosophizing about life it was time to actually get up and live it.  You can smoke weed and do mushrooms and everything else and read a ton of books and gain all this wisdom but if you dont get out and live and struggle and feel pain and joy like those who wrote the books and sold you the wisdom then your just a receptacle for information anyone can gain. At some point we have to die and i wanted to be able to look back on my life and say hey. I fuckin tried like hell. I gave it my all. Smoking weed everyday like i was, 1-2g of concentrate every 1-2 days, i was never gonna really test myself. I was never gonna really grow as a person. 

After i quit i realized how many mind games weed allowed me to be comfortable playing with myself. I think avoiding emotions was the biggest thing. Some people eat to avoid feeling things. I smoked. I had to feel things i was avoiding my whole life and make actual changes in my life so i could live day to day and be happy, such as mending relationships with family. Things ishould have done long before this point.  I also learned how powerful the dopamine system in our brain is in regard to how we think and percieve reality.  If you have trained yourself to shut off and relax with a certain stimulus wether its food or weed, and your doing this constantly. Your attention span is shit.  Your capacity to reason through emotions and tough situations is shit. Your ability to oversee problems and think within a bigger picture is shit as well.

If you have no attachments whatsoever and your dopamine response is associated with an ideological end goal, such as resolving a conflict in your life, instead of a chemical end goal, you are way more likely to have the ability to invision the solution and have the motivation and persistence to work through everything that may try to get in the way of you reaching that solution. 

That brings me to my next thing which is people i run into and observe who smoke, they give up and sell themselves short way too easily and they dont even realize it. They dont see their potential. They just want to be comfortable constantly. Another thing is. Many of them have no regard for how they treat their bodies. They just put all this smoke and shit in their lungs constantly, eat shitty food, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes. And if they only smoke weed they usually believe its not harmful at all to their brain or lungs when in reality we have no fuckin idea for sure. Like i get weed can be great but that doesnt mean we are built to inhale the shit 24/7.  Everytime i inhale anything even when i smoke cigars and accidently inhale a tiny tiny breath of smoke i get a pain in my chest that used to be constant and im 99% sure its from smoking so much weed over the years.

Im so focused and determined to do something with my life and make the best of every day and my time here that the idea of sitting around getting high and not being productive just doesnt appeal to me at all. Some days where i just want to do nothing and relax i think about it but i think if i did it often it would soon become a habit again.


Idk man.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Shiithead]
    #26399198 - 12/24/19 01:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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So you'd rather play it safe and not be open to a discussion at the risk of either of us growing. Pretty sad state of affairs  when a community leader would rather pass judgement than have a simple exchange with another member.



Call it whatever helps you like mate but I'm old enough and ugly enough to be able to spot someone who is genuinely interested in a POV different from their own and someone who just wants to have a barney. I've been the latter enough times myself, and it's clear as day that you just want to have it out. I know the feeling. Couple that with the fact that you'd suggest people smoking weed deserve the death penalty and you've one person I've no desire to spend any of my precious time on.

Kinda below the belt for you to lay it on like a guilt trip and to call my position into question when it's really nothing at all to do with the matter at hand too. Or to mention the potential for growth in this, when it is clear there is none. Cheap shots, those. But then, it seems profoundly obvious to me, from this interaction alone, that you're not the kindest or nor the most compassionate person out there. Probably more on the other end of the spectrum, if anything.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26399205 - 12/24/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I've had a love/hate relationship with weed most of my life. I used to absolutely hate weed and smoked it everyday because all my friends in highschool did and I desperately wanted to fit in.

After I started dating my now fiance, I discovered she was a massive stoner who loves the dabs. So through her I was slowly introduced back to weed. Then after abusing all the stims caught up with me and getting slammed with psychosis I ended up cutting out hard drugs from my life, except for prescribed vyvanse ofc  :tweak:, I was getting a hankering for feeling intoxicated and started experimenting with weed again, and can say that I fucking love it.


I truly think smoking weed, a sort of "marijuana maintenance method" for abstaining from abusing hard drugs has been a life-saver.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: notyouravgnerd]
    #26399219 - 12/24/19 02:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Everyone in this thread needs to chill out and :bongload:.

Just kidding, of course :cool:.

I'm a 1.0g-1.5g a day guy, I enjoy how it compliments my lifestyle, and I have no issue with anyone that's not for it. To each their own.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26399248 - 12/24/19 02:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I got nothing against weed tho i think a lot of people including me turn a bit lazy from it. Def better to smoke some weed from time to time than to regularly drink like most people do.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: kitten6]
    #26399258 - 12/24/19 02:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Last summer I went to turkey, because me mam is Turkish, so you see, I have lots of Turkish friends and they are all telling apart from a few, that we stay away from weed.

Anybody else who shares these views, and why?

No disrespect please.






What do you even mean by "not agree with weed"?

Have you ever actually smoked the herb or are your Turkish friends just telling you not to smoke it?...Did they give any reasons why?

What are your reasons why?





Myself...I absolutely "agree" with cannabis :yesnod: :lol: .

I thoroughly enjoy and love cannabis...Everything about it...Its aesthetics, all the different structures/forms/colors it can have, the huge spectrum of divine aromas & flavors it has, the way it soothes my mind/body/soul, the medicinal potential it has, watching the plant grow....

...I sincerely love this plant. It is woven into the culture I'm part of/where I live and it has become a part of my life over the past 10+ years. So as long as I have the space to do so I plan on growing the herb every year for the rest of my life.

:happyweed:





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I'm a 1.0g-1.5g a day guy, I enjoy how it compliments my lifestyle.





Same & same here :yesnod:







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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: openmind]
    #26399588 - 12/24/19 07:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I smoked weed to not be paranoid but it is bad for the default mode network because it is a default mode.  Weed just is standard operating, a truth drug of sorts.  But a huge trip to detox from.

Medicine and intent are something to always be mindful of.  Weed was meditation for me but needing a tool for transcending into abstract processes has fault.  It also made me need sexual release or it wouldn't calm me down.

It's difficult to raise the proper mental energy with a herb as powerful as cannabis.  The nightmares that follow and the paranoia just gets extreme not finding peace. I guess we have to ask what state do we want to die in, and is that good enough of us.

I''ve grown weak for intoxication.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26399604 - 12/24/19 07:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I dunno that I'd say I disagree with it.

I'd say you either need to be a very responsible smoker or all in daily smoker though. That space in between, that's where the "mess" is.

Responsible smokers only smoke when they know they won't need to function, and because they smoke sporadically, they know smoking is going to make them not good for much. Daily smokers can smoke and for the most part function perfectly fine because they have a tolerance.

The in-between people are the ones that get stoned when they know they have little tolerance and adaptability to the effects of the drug, even though they have other responsibilities to be attending to.

I say all this with plenty of experience. I'm not going to condemn you for being an every day smoker, or someone who just takes a few hits occasionally. But if you know you have so little tolerance it leaves you useless, then you need to be able to use it responsibly. Otherwise, you make everyone look bad.

Other than that, no. Your body, your mind, your choice.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #26399617 - 12/24/19 07:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:

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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: kitten6]
    #26399707 - 12/24/19 09:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

For me weed became a substitute for the feeling of deeper study or understanding, while it subtly impairs those things in reality. Doesn't make them impossible but I don't think it's a net advantage (if overdone anyway.) In a couple of different ways it does the opposite of what I use it for, another being anxiety relief.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: psi]
    #26399715 - 12/24/19 09:30 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

i think u can be a responsible all in smoker which is knowing how to taper and take breaks and dont end up smoking an oz a day

if weed withdrawl exists its more of a moody thing

but i think it does exist at that level


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: cannabinated]
    #26399984 - 12/25/19 02:56 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The bigger the lie, the more unbelieveble the truth is.

Having your own reasons for not doing something is perfectly fine I hope your comment about death penalty is a joke lol.

Some of history's greatest artists, writers, scientists used weed... Some people abuse it and just like to get super stoned while some have actually contributed to our world greatly...

If its taxed fairly and money goes to schools, hospitals seems the only way because we can never get rid of it has been critical is too many peoples lives... We wouldn't just give up eating bread because the goverment says so.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Kmacmo]
    #26400037 - 12/25/19 04:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Believe it or not, cannabis shrinks the brain.  But they feel because it increases connectivity that is alright.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: kitten6]
    #26400046 - 12/25/19 04:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I understand what you guys are saying, me mam always told me that you must stay away from weed you need to stay pure. And recently I have been starting to understand what she means.

I feel something, impure about it. Some people say that it is the perfectly balanced drug that god gave to us. But I am not sure about this, a lot people I know get very protective about weed, and this is what started to make me doubt it. There's a devil that resides inside.

Another thing I notice from weed, I stop dreaming for a few days after smoking and sometimes especially after smoking one of those ridiculous California strains, I can't even sleep. Probably not a good thing maybe.

Weed is too marketable, there so many ways you can get weed sold using all kinds of dirty, lies and questionable tactics.
Its like the tobacco industries are expanding to weed, or maybe the weed industries are become more like the thriving corrupting tobacco companies of old. Many of these companies still have firm grips on many eastern governments like in Vietnam and Indonesia. And this is also a legacy of the war. US involvement in Vietnam made a logistical connection between the countries for military (capitalist) ventures.
Imagine the power that america would have with weed being the new tobacco, or maybe I am being too skeptical.

Ever since they started putting crap into the cigarettes in the 30s and 40s, that's when the problem came. Who knows what they are doing with weed in their backroom labs. Something bad. And it all starts in america just like it did back in the day with the corruption of rollies. Weed companies in america are becoming bigger and bigger nowadays you have large chains and franchises of dispensaries.

Like in the UK, nowadays the trust is going down, especially where I live between old time dealers who are supplying the new time dealers. I've had heard of two local veteran dealers now, who laced there shit with spice. Now I am not saying spice is bad that's up for another thread to discuss, but still it is false advertising, and can get people fucked up when they decide to smoke a lot of it.

I hope that our generation of dealers will make things right. But it seems more and more likely that america is going to become more and more involved with the UK especially now that Brexxit is confirmed after Boris gets elected with his historic landslide victory. I am not sure about this whole Unified parliament thing in Britain, too much room for tyranny, I feel like we're reverting to old times. I feel like everyone is reverting to old times everywhere around the world and in turkey as well.


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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: kitten6]
    #26400049 - 12/25/19 04:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Plant drugs are not imperfect, we are.  Trying to be analytical about paranormal or the super mundane is a good way to go insane.

I think during mediation we can stimulate the whole being.  A drug touches one area of our being, which can imbalance.  I had a lot of fun smoking cannabis, but also it wasn't easy to communicate those things I observed.


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