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51% still believe Saddam had WMD
    #2639875 - 05/05/04 03:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

From http://nypost.com/news/nationalnews/19309.htm

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The Harris Poll found that 51% believe Iraq had WMD, compared with 38% who don't believe the White House claim, a leading rationale for the U.S. invasion.

74% of Americans still believe that no clear evidence of WMD has been unearthed, while 19% believe proof exists

43% believe the U.S. government exaggerated the reports of WMD in Iraq to increase support for the war, while 50% believes the government tried to be accurate.

The poll also found by 49% to 36% Americans continue to believe that evidence showing Iraq's support for al Qaeda has been found.





WOW, 19% believe that WMD were actually found!!! Media are doing a really great job in informing Americans about the truth. :lol:
Now I understand why is Bush still leading in polls.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: zeronio]
    #2639913 - 05/05/04 03:16 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hell, in England, 25% of adults questioned in a recent survey believe Robin Hood was a real person, while one in ten believe Hitler was not. Equally astonishing, one in ten believe Winston freaking Churchill was not real. One in three think Mussolini was not a real person. One out of three!

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The entire world is full of idiots. Stupidity is not a phenomenon restricted to the USA. You can laugh at it or cry about it. Neither one makes a damn bit of difference to the situation, but laughing generally feels better.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!

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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: Phred]
    #2640091 - 05/05/04 04:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

OK... I didn't have in mind idiots. I remember a guy who was collecting signs under the statue dedicated to an unknown hero for a petition: "Isn't it a shame that the mother of the unknown hero doesn't get any support from the government?"
He got thousands of signs. :laugh:

But 49% that think that Iraq was related to Al-Quaeda show that normally inteligent people were also mislead by media.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: zeronio]
    #2640100 - 05/05/04 04:28 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

51% also must believe in santa clause and the easter bunny :crazy2:


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2640224 - 05/05/04 05:12 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

So easter bunny has a chance if he decides to run for office.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: zeronio]
    #2640968 - 05/05/04 11:40 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

51% believe Iraq had WMD

Many of them right-wingers posting at P&L..


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: zeronio]
    #2641001 - 05/05/04 11:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

That 19% must have been watching fox news.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: zeronio]
    #2641158 - 05/05/04 12:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Zeronio, but you actually do not know what is the truth. It is not good to stand behind the facts that are opinion only. This is the couse of every political conflict.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: Crobih]
    #2641179 - 05/05/04 12:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well Saddam did HAVE WMDs, just maybe not right before the war.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2641229 - 05/05/04 01:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If "not right before" means 1991-94 then you're on the money.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: Xlea321]
    #2643552 - 05/06/04 12:00 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I think around 35% of Americans think the war in Iraq was over oil...
which would be true if you were French or German.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2643605 - 05/06/04 12:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The Iraq war had nothing to do with oil and i fucked the tooth fairy in the ass last night :lol: it must be fun to operate in bizzaro..errr.. conservative thought world


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2643619 - 05/06/04 12:15 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hehe, we all know bush doesn't operate in reallity, i mean he asks his friend jesus how to run the country. i just figured his supporters had some grasp of it..


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2643773 - 05/06/04 12:51 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

no hee wants to controll all the sand in the world computers are made from silicon which is made from sand can't you see the truth?

Why else would he invade a country with so much sand???????/111


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: Crobih]
    #2644077 - 05/06/04 03:20 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Crobih said:
Zeronio, but you actually do not know what is the truth. It is not good to stand behind the facts that are opinion only. This is the couse of every political conflict.




I will never know the truth. I can't be even sure that Iraq exists, but until I get the red pill and exit matrix I'll stick to this world. :wink:
I have a theory that those that are not directly involved in conflict can give you a better view of what is going on. Remember how our media reported about the conflicts in ex-Yugoslavia? The opposite side was always refered to as "slaughtering dirty terrorists, illegal combatants raping women and children, religious extremists, etc.", while our guys were "corrageous soldiers protecting their country from terrorists and giving their lives for the future of our kids...". I think that there might be no war at all if the media wouldn't talk such shit.
And the same type of reporting after 911 resulted in another bloody stupid war.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: zeronio]
    #2644161 - 05/06/04 04:12 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If your soldiers were taking dirty pictures of prisoners would your media have made a big stink about it?


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2644245 - 05/06/04 05:30 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Who knows... If the media convince entire population that it's good to attack another country then it's already completely fucked up. Such media cannot be trusted.
The problem in this situation is that the tortures in Iraqui prisons came as a big surprise. First of all you should be informed about that before the war, because that's what soldiers did in ALL the wars no matter if they were from such "highly civilized" countries like USA, UK, France or Germany, that always fought with noble cause of bringing prosperity to their colonies. Some collateral damage (aka murdering & torturing helpless civilians) is of course unavoidable.
Besides that I read something about what is going on in Iraqui prisons at least 6 months ago.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: zeronio]
    #2644702 - 05/06/04 10:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

A little bit of off topic. It is about influence of the media. Partially :smile:

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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: zeronio]
    #2645626 - 05/06/04 03:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Besides that I read something about what is going on in Iraqui prisons at least 6 months ago.





This isn't the first I've heard of it either.


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Re: 51% still believe Saddam had WMD [Re: zeronio]
    #2645734 - 05/06/04 03:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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zeronio said:

I will never know the truth. I can't be even sure that Iraq exists, but until I get the red pill and exit matrix I'll stick to this world. :wink:
I have a theory that those that are not directly involved in conflict can give you a better view of what is going on. Remember how our media reported about the conflicts in ex-Yugoslavia? The opposite side was always refered to as "slaughtering dirty terrorists, illegal combatants raping women and children, religious extremists, etc.", while our guys were "corrageous soldiers protecting their country from terrorists and giving their lives for the future of our kids...". I think that there might be no war at all if the media wouldn't talk such shit.
And the same type of reporting after 911 resulted in another bloody stupid war.




Having lived outside the United States it has been my experience that foreign press is far more biased against the US than American press is biased in favor of it. Except for FOX news I thought the Iraq war coverage was fairly evenhanded in America, but seeing some other news programs and papers I got the impression that people were being told to hate America. I mean first off, the Iraq war was like front page of almost every newspaper in the world, yet tons of other countries have and are engaged in far worse wars. I think the focus on America was very disporportionate.
Secondly I would hear things like "The Americans Relentless March to War which will kill millions for no reason was in full gear today...now we will feature a section on patriotic and frightened Iraqis crying for mercy." Even in the British and New Zealand press Americans were portrayed as genocidal murderers out to kill civilians.
I'd say with the Iraq war it was media bias that made so many people hate America. The American press was overall not very jingoistic, but the foreign press was extremely hostile towards the war. America was being demonized and being portrayed as the enemy, while nobody paid any attention to Saddam Hussein.


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