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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Morel Guy]
#26401363 - 12/26/19 09:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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things definitely feel more real on cannabis, i think a good word for it is things become more suggestive.
That's never a good thing for me. As soon as things start looking real, i turn into a huge pussy and won't even put up a fight. When I'm high as soon as things start getting sticky, I'll pretend not to notice. That's fear. fuck fear.
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: kitten6]
#26401378 - 12/26/19 09:36 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Weed is amazing but like everything else it should be used in moderation. You shouldn't spend everyday of your life stoned out of your mind unless you're motivated and successful like joe rogan. If weed just makes you lazy then save it for the weekends. It should be 100% legal!!
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Shenmue]
#26401442 - 12/26/19 10:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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In the USA, marijuana is a privilege afforded for people who are rich and able to escape the law. For people of certain races that are not wealthy they are the ones targeted by police for using marijuana. So blatantly, to the point where marijuana being illegal is actually racist against people who are black in the USA. Thus it should be legalized for that reason alone.
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: openmind]
#26401671 - 12/26/19 02:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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kitten6 said: sure man post your emojis, but what are you trying to get at, don't need to get all personal about things leave that for OTD.
I wanna hear your opinion.
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kitten6 said:
I feel something, impure about it..... There's a devil that resides inside.
I wasn't getting personal and I'm never in the OTD.
What I'm trying to get at is I feel it's silly and strange that you think the cannabis plant contains the devil inside it .
My opinion is that's an absolutely ridiculous point of view to have, to think there is a "devil" inside a plant.
What does that even mean?
What do you mean by the plant is "impure"?
How much experience do you have with growing and working with the plant? How did you come to the conclusion that inside the cannabis plant is the "devil" and that the plant is "impure"? What sorts of evidence do you have that the "devil" is inside cannabis?
If anything, I feel this plant is the contrary of such and is divine. This plant is a gift from nature and it is some true medicine for some people.
Considering how many people this plant has helped heal & soothe, considering how much this plant can provide humanity with various materials and various medicines, considering how this plant can help clean up soil/the earth and improve the environment, among many other reasons, I don't understand how one comes to the conclusion that this plant is basically "evil" ...?...
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Spiralspider]
#26401690 - 12/26/19 02:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Spiralspider said: How much weed is moderate use?
like an oz a week
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Hartford]
#26401780 - 12/26/19 03:31 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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lets see some studies bitch
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: kitten6]
#26401786 - 12/26/19 03:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Strongly dislike. It causes panic in me 100% of the time. I suspect it has something to do with body chemistry (my brother almost always has the same reaction). I've had quite a few bad trips on acid, mushrooms and analogues but nothing compares to my worst experience on weed (from a single hit, I might add).
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Darwin23]
#26401789 - 12/26/19 03:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm curious if anyone disagrees with weed? Normally, weed and I are pretty much on the same page, so fuss. It's not a big talker though, so not much to disagree with
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: cannabinated]
#26401839 - 12/26/19 04:10 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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cannabinated said: lets see some studies bitch
It's one of those pro pot people who glorify the plant.
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: MrMoon]
#26401843 - 12/26/19 04:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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The thought is more important than the act. This gets proved with redundancy of routine.
Imagine going a long time just dying. Nobody wants to fast like that. It's too powerful to not hold on.
But getting off drugs is like that.
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: openmind]
#26401892 - 12/26/19 05:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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ah I probably should have made things more clear,
when there is a devil, there is temptation, attachment, irrationality. when you feel attracted to something, there is a devil. When you become attached to something the devil will show itself.
The devil will make you forget, kindness, conscience, restraint. And distract yourself from purity. You will become impure. Whether or not that is in the act of smoking weed, or in the plant itself. I am not so sure.
However the purity is lost, reduced. This explains why we don't dream after smoking up. It will take at least 5 days for me to restore my purity after smoking weed.
When you are surrounded by people who smoke weed, like me, and alot of other people, it becomes inevitable that you will become someone who smokes weed as well. I won't tell my friends that I don't agree with weed because weed has become embedded in their lives, They will frown upon me. That is the very thing that makes me doubt weed.
Weed is not necessarily addictive, it just attaches to you .
When you smoke weed, you become someone else, if you let it, you become someone different. That is what I mean when I say there is a devil. You stay as that someone else for days to come, it's hard to notice without knowledge of yourself.
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: kitten6]
#26402016 - 12/26/19 06:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don’t enjoy cannabis at all. I’m all for it’s legalization and don’t care if anyone else partakes. Go for if it’s your thing.
I was just talking about this in another thread...I can get loaded to fucking high heaven on shrooms, lsd, mescaline, ketamine, you name it. But even just a little bit of weed or hash and I feel instantly physically shitty and my outlook becomes fundamentally negative. It’s unpleasant and sucks outright ass for me personally. I smoked for years as a teenager and enjoyed it; something started to change in my early twenties. I haven’t smoked in many years now. Kinda sucks, as it’s obvious many people gain a lot from it. Oh well
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Psilotyl]
#26402023 - 12/26/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is strong and mixed with booze or not concern happens.
Concern may be a high power. Booze kinda neglects that in a whole way.
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: NOUS333]
#26403942 - 12/28/19 01:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is a really insightful post. I have had similar experiences and currently am entertaining a moderation phase. Its too bad humans are so Quote:
NOUS333 said: I smoked for ten years everyday pretty much. Age 14-26. Ill be 28 in a month so its almost 2 years without weed now. Ive tried it here and there in those two years and i just cant enjoy it. I get trapped in my head thinking too much, i remember why i quit it. It allows a person to stop thinking about what they have to do to become who they want to be. Its like taking a break on your path in life and building a house and staying where you were supposed to only rest for few minutes.
Its not this way for everybody but thats how i see it now. Partly because im terrified of becoming a lazy drug addict like i used to be. At the same time i often reminisce about the good old days and all the creative shit i used to do and be involved in primarily because i was high all the time with no real goals in life which allowed my mind to explore questions many people never ask themselves in life. So i guess this is where it becomes about balance also.
I decided after ten+ years of everyday use, sitting around philosophizing about life it was time to actually get up and live it. You can smoke weed and do mushrooms and everything else and read a ton of books and gain all this wisdom but if you dont get out and live and struggle and feel pain and joy like those who wrote the books and sold you the wisdom then your just a receptacle for information anyone can gain. At some point we have to die and i wanted to be able to look back on my life and say hey. I fuckin tried like hell. I gave it my all. Smoking weed everyday like i was, 1-2g of concentrate every 1-2 days, i was never gonna really test myself. I was never gonna really grow as a person.
After i quit i realized how many mind games weed allowed me to be comfortable playing with myself. I think avoiding emotions was the biggest thing. Some people eat to avoid feeling things. I smoked. I had to feel things i was avoiding my whole life and make actual changes in my life so i could live day to day and be happy, such as mending relationships with family. Things ishould have done long before this point. I also learned how powerful the dopamine system in our brain is in regard to how we think and percieve reality. If you have trained yourself to shut off and relax with a certain stimulus wether its food or weed, and your doing this constantly. Your attention span is shit. Your capacity to reason through emotions and tough situations is shit. Your ability to oversee problems and think within a bigger picture is shit as well.
If you have no attachments whatsoever and your dopamine response is associated with an ideological end goal, such as resolving a conflict in your life, instead of a chemical end goal, you are way more likely to have the ability to invision the solution and have the motivation and persistence to work through everything that may try to get in the way of you reaching that solution.
That brings me to my next thing which is people i run into and observe who smoke, they give up and sell themselves short way too easily and they dont even realize it. They dont see their potential. They just want to be comfortable constantly. Another thing is. Many of them have no regard for how they treat their bodies. They just put all this smoke and shit in their lungs constantly, eat shitty food, drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes. And if they only smoke weed they usually believe its not harmful at all to their brain or lungs when in reality we have no fuckin idea for sure. Like i get weed can be great but that doesnt mean we are built to inhale the shit 24/7. Everytime i inhale anything even when i smoke cigars and accidently inhale a tiny tiny breath of smoke i get a pain in my chest that used to be constant and im 99% sure its from smoking so much weed over the years.
Im so focused and determined to do something with my life and make the best of every day and my time here that the idea of sitting around getting high and not being productive just doesnt appeal to me at all. Some days where i just want to do nothing and relax i think about it but i think if i did it often it would soon become a habit again.
Idk man.
This is a really insightful post. I have had similar experiences and currently am entertaining a moderation phase. After extended off and on usage, it is clear to me that it is merely a distraction. Its too bad more people don't understand how precious our time is. We can create an amazing reality without trivially using substances like THC in such a casual manner.
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: kitten6]
#26403961 - 12/28/19 01:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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kitten6 said: ah I probably should have made things more clear,
when there is a devil, there is temptation, attachment, irrationality. when you feel attracted to something, there is a devil. When you become attached to something the devil will show itself.
The devil will make you forget, kindness, conscience, restraint. And distract yourself from purity. You will become impure. Whether or not that is in the act of smoking weed, or in the plant itself. I am not so sure.
However the purity is lost, reduced. This explains why we don't dream after smoking up. It will take at least 5 days for me to restore my purity after smoking weed.
When you are surrounded by people who smoke weed, like me, and alot of other people, it becomes inevitable that you will become someone who smokes weed as well. I won't tell my friends that I don't agree with weed because weed has become embedded in their lives, They will frown upon me. That is the very thing that makes me doubt weed.
Weed is not necessarily addictive, it just attaches to you .
When you smoke weed, you become someone else, if you let it, you become someone different. That is what I mean when I say there is a devil. You stay as that someone else for days to come, it's hard to notice without knowledge of yourself.
I have noticed these characteristics as well. This thought is a bit scary when one realizes how easily influenced people can be. So much to the point where they adopt these seemingly benign habits that evolve into nefarious ones.
My issue is that once refraining from substance as a whole, life becomes a bit lonely when the majority of people in your life are naive consumers at the foot of a repressive simulation. Would you mind discussing how you deal with this?
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: AGUARES]
#26404146 - 12/28/19 06:47 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think your the only one who acknowledged it so thanks. Im sure what i said isnt a popular point of view in this community. But in my opinion its more true than many here are ready to admit. Probably because it requires a huge change and lots of work/self discipline. Many will never have the will to take that on. Much easier not to.
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: NOUS333]
#26404339 - 12/28/19 09:28 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used to smoke weed like tobacco, one after another all day... After a while of the foggy haze I started to get fatigue and just feel much better having a 3-4 joints over a day instead of 10 joints a day.. Enjoy my doobies a lot more than I used too just by cutting down...
My friend makes a 3grams last over a week, just one joint every night before bed has cured his sleeping problems he just uses it medically
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26404490 - 12/28/19 11:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Kmacmo said: I used to smoke weed like tobacco, one after another all day... After a while of the foggy haze I started to get fatigue and just feel much better having a 3-4 joints over a day instead of 10 joints a day.. Enjoy my doobies a lot more than I used too just by cutting down...
My friend makes a 3grams last over a week, just one joint every night before bed has cured his sleeping problems he just uses it medically
I bet if your friend quit altogether, got some daily exercise, ate good food, his sleep problems would go away.
Thats another thing about weed. It can cause a bunch of problems and then appear to be the one and only cure for them. This isnt always the case but it was true in my case.
Would always say i need it to sleep. Figured i would until death. Was all complete bullshit. A convenient lie i told myself. Didnt even know it was a lie until i quit and got my mind and body healthy
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Re: Does anyone not like or disagree with weed, and why? [Re: NOUS333]
#26404507 - 12/28/19 11:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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taking a drug everyday is terrible for you
weed aint that bad tho
microdosing shrooms helps when u wanna slow down on the weed
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