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Oldnameforgotten
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Going back to college
#26398457 - 12/24/19 12:21 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm 30 years old. I went to college in america when I was 18 and did half a year majoring in philosophy but ended up smoking weed and dropping out. (how cliche can you get right?)
I'm in australia now and the only way I can stay here is if I go to school. The universities here are 30k a year but their vocational college is 13k a year.
Ideally I would start fresh and do a bachelors in philosophy but I cant study that at the vocational college.
At the vocational college I dont have much I would even mildly consider doing so I have to pick something.
Options: Community Services Engineering - Electrical or Mechanical Hospitality Management with a minor in cookery
For Community Services I dont particularly like the thought of dealing with people in bad scenarios for the rest of my life but I would be good at it and I have been doing it for 2 years now.
Engineering sounds like the best choice I love tinkering and taking things apart. The issue is I dropped out of highschool and got the GED before getting to more advanced mathematics. So I have no idea what calculus is. I fear that I might not be able to do it.
Hospitality seems like a high demand job and could get me places. But if I'm going to do work like that I would have my own place and not work for someone.
At the moment I have been given an offer by the school for a 2 year degree in community services and I am considering it.
In a perfect world.... I'd find 30 thousand dollars and go to the university.
Any thoughts guys?
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Samiam76
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Get a trade, do an apprenticeship. You can work with your hands and tinker with stuff all you like and you can make some real money while getting trained.
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notyouravgnerd
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College was a really great way for me to get off my junkie ass, and discover what I wanted to do for a career, so if you need something like that it is good. If you just want to learn you can probably do that online. Most of what I've learned in my career has been from the internet. That being said I'm in tech so YMMV
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koods
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How are you living in Australia but still required to pay the international student rate?
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Re: Going back to college [Re: koods]
#26398512 - 12/24/19 02:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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$120k is far too much to pay if you are so unsure about what you want to do you’re posting about it on the shroomery.
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Oldnameforgotten
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Re: Going back to college [Re: koods]
#26398766 - 12/24/19 07:44 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: $120k is far too much to pay if you are so unsure about what you want to do you’re posting about it on the shroomery.
Yeah I forget 99 percent of the population doesnt understand how immigration works lol.
So basically I came down here on a working visa which lasts between 1 and 4 years. I got 2 years. My visa is ending so I have to apply for a student visa which means I have to work only 20 hours a week while going to school.
You dont get benefits from the state until youre a permanent resident. That requires marrying an aussie or having a degree that is in high demand at that moment and applying for a 3-5 year post-graduate work visa. After you stay for 6-7 years without ever leaving the country you can then apply for permanent residence assuming you have a high demand degree and even then its a gamble.
The first visas cost 700 per year. The school visa is 700 for a course. And the post graduate visa is 1600. The marriage visa is 8000.
And of course... you can be denied any of these at any point for vague reasons. And you forfeit the money.
And its this difficult in almost all countries on earth =-D Tribalism is so fun isnt it? Make sure we all stay far away and secluded.
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If you aren't willing to bite the bullet and do one of those vocational majors and if you aren't willing to shell out the 30 stacks for the philosophy major you want then maybe its just time to go home man. You don't really have much options other than that do you?
I told the same thing to a friend of mine who graduated from WVU and as soon as he graduated, 2 days later he packed his shit and went to LA hoping to find a place and good job in event promotion. He ended up not being able to find a place or job in LA because it was hella expensive and there was no feasible job opportunities for him there. So he settled on living in Las Vegas but found a pretty sweet gig there as a traveling promoter, he got to go to places like Cabo and Cancun to plan and promote parties and events. It was like a dream come true for him. Couple months later he gets fired, never told me why but I had to assume it was because he took so much time off to travel and go to festivals. He was depressed as hell about it and spent the next year in Vegas trying to maintain living there by doing Uber and Lyft 24/7. I don't think he found a steady job there the entire year he was living there after he got fired and just worked day in and day out for a measly Uber driver paycheck. He called me many times telling me how shitty he had it out there because he couldn't find a job and was just doing uber and how bummed he was about being fired and having all these bills to pay. He said he probably would have to move back to NJ and live with his folks but didn't want to.
I told him straight up he should just move back home to New Jersey and call it quits in Vegas. I told him that he clearly wasn't happy over there and wasn't making any type of living there either so what was the point? I felt like he was just prolonging the inevitable and if he just moved back to NJ he'd be better off financially and emotionally because he was broke, overworked, and was depressed as fuck and he needed to be with his family and childhood friends. I told him that he could live with is folks for maybe the next year or two, figure out his financial situation, save up money, and work on himself and then make a legit feasible plan for himself to move back to the West Coast or LA where he wanted to live initially, and find a legit job and hold it and make things work better the second time around.
Man he got upset AF with me when I told him that. He just made a bunch of excuses saying he doesn't have time to work on himself and all the shit. His excuse didn't make sense to me, he said I don't have time to work on myself because I'm working 24/7 doing Uber. Yeah I get that, but that's why I'm telling you to move back home to live with your folks so you have more room and time to focus on fixing yourself and figuring out your situation.
He hasn't spoken to me since, that was back in July. Since then he has moved back to NJ and is living with his parents. Like I said it was inevitable but it was for the best that he just did that and went through with it no matter how shitty or a set back it seemed.
I know thats a long rant but I just felt like illustrating that for you because your situation kind of reminded me of my friend's situation. And my point is that if you don't wanna do either of the options available to you you should move back to U.S.A. and come back to Australia when you have your career and life figured out and set. I don't know your reasons for moving out there or your exact financial situation and am not saying this is you that did this but I don't get it when people decide to move somewhere and don't have their lives, careers, or financial situation figured out and decided to figure things out as they go. Thats a bad idea in my opinion and I know too many people that have done that and ended up homeless, broke, or moving back home to live with their parents. Its really not worth it just to have to take a huge step back and start back at square one. I'd rather stay living were I'am and going to school and saving up money and when I have a viable and fruitful oppurunity with my career and financial situation set in stone then I move to where I want to go to spend the rest of my life or as long as I want
Edited by Funky Fingaz (12/24/19 09:09 AM)
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tyrannicalrex
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 Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Oldnameforgotten
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Yeah pretty much just... none of your long rant applies. I didnt move to a giant city as an 18 year old. I moved to a vastly superior economy where jobs are impossible not to find.
I'm making money hand over fist and I want to stay.
The degrees are risky because I might not get to stay afterwards.
America is an absolute shithole and the pay is pathetic. Australia is about 400 million times better and you will never understand.
You cant come back to australia without a degree. I cant afford a degree in america making 10 bucks an hour. And thats assuming I can even find full time work. Here I can afford even the 30k university. Its just a huge gamble because I could end up near broke and kicked out of country with the degree.
This incredible disconnect I have with my former comrades in america is just..... wild. And I can NEVER convey to you you are trapped in a shithole. You will never believe it let alone ever leave. Its really crazy that just saying .... "If you moved here for a year youd agree with everything Ive said" is not enough to convince anyone of anything. But I am 100 percent correct in that statement.
Youd have to be under 31 though cuz anti-immigration laws.
Anyways I guess thread death. Probably gonna get this community services degree since its cheap. Waste of 2 years but atleast im not in america fighting for scraps.
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Go to wind turbine school and turn wrenches. Out in a year and make 150k AUD a year.
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