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techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS)
    #26398247 - 12/23/19 08:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well hello shroomy boys and girls.

i've a couple trips in my back, at home or riding a bike at night in big groups (beautiful experience)

this friday i'm going with a friend to a techno party. she never took shrooms before, and i wanna make shure that the dose is right. mainly i don't want it to be a too strong. the club doesn't have any outdoor parts and there wont be many chances to go outside or chill alone in there.


i rather make it a soft trip than risking a bad time at the disco.

that being said i, have some little brothers from my own supply.

BUT  i don't have a scale.

so i lurked a bit to understand dosing, but it's kinda hard without a scale..
sooo here are some pics.

my idea was to split this babies:



like so:




beautiful, ain't them?


so we each eat one half of each shroom (i heard that they vary in concentration so i thought that was the best choice so the doses are even)

and pay a dance tribute to our hypal power spirits  :feelingfunky:


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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: embrollo] * 1
    #26398270 - 12/23/19 08:34 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Well.. could go one of two ways.
One: You guys have a great time and she has an awesome experience for the first time.
Two: She has a terrible time lol.

Mushrooms.. especially for the first time can be daunting. You never know how someone is going to react. It would honestly suck if she started having a terrible time and wanted to leave.. but yet there's not much you could do about it. IMHO.. I hate being in "party" settings while I dosed. I've done it in my earlier days of playing around with mushrooms.. but it can just make things get very weary. Don't like the vibes.

That's just my honest opinion. But.. if you're going to.. I'd each take two. Those are still wet. Probably like a half a gram dried... each. Which is pretty much a microdose imo.

Still.. can make things weird with someone who is doing them for the first time. Not trying to sound negative.. but first time for mushrooms.. should definitely be in a more controlled setting with the ability to do what you please and not feel "stuck".


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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26398410 - 12/23/19 11:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The easy solution is to have her munch one shroom, and wait an hour, or two, preferably. If she's digging it and she wants a little more give her a little more. The thing is to have respect for the fungus but not to be too uptight about it either, if you give her the idea that she might have a horrible time and you're scared she might freak out, you're kind of inviting it to happen. Just start with a low dose, stay super positive and have a great time dancing and laughing and chatting with her, and she'll almost certainly have a great time too.
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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: Digit]
    #26398415 - 12/23/19 11:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with you completely on this. Guess I'm just thinking of past experiences of when people ruined my time because I gave them mushrooms and they couldn't handle their shit. This was earlier on. I have just learned to keep the mushrooms to myself and try and stay clear of people and their first time experiences after what I've been through with some people lol.

Unless it was a close friend, of course. I would happily help and try and guide them in the right path. Mushroom are just so unpredictable. I will always tell people to tread lightly... because some people just literally cannot handle the ride lol.

Best of luck. I'm sure all will be well. I just want you both to have a good time. Although.. I do think you both should eat both of those if you're going to do it. both of those are probably have a gram if they were dried. one.. would not do much at all.. doubt effects would even take place.

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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26398444 - 12/24/19 12:00 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Well.. could go one of two ways.
One: You guys have a great time and she has an awesome experience for the first time.
Two: She has a terrible time lol.

Mushrooms.. especially for the first time can be daunting. You never know how someone is going to react... I hate being in "party" settings while I dosed.
That's just my honest opinion.




I agree completely. Mushrooms more than any psychedelic for me are not useful in social situations.

That said a small dose can be manageable and even enjoyable.

But my first time doing shrooms luckily i was with close friends and my brother, because when i peaked he had to wrap me up in a fuzzy blanket while they all laughed at the incoherent nonsense mixed with dabs of enlightenment that was coming out of my mouth.

You seem to have the right idea here wanting your friend to have an enjoyable time. Without a scale I would say half a shroom is a good start. Noone can tell you how much water weight is in those even if you gave us a detailed log of growing conditions. IMO one of those will dry to almost nothing, maybe .1 to maybe .3g at most, but again this is impossible to tell based on pictures even with the length scale u provided (especially since u didnt clarify cm or in).

If it is inches, as i assume being american, then i stand by .1-.3g, if it is cm then it could be way more(2.5cm per in). And all of this is moot as Vibe said they look to still be wet, so it could be maybe 1g per shroom based on the info provided(most likely not but could be).

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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
That's just my honest opinion. But.. if you're going to.. I'd each take two. Those are still wet. Probably like a half a gram dried... each. Which is pretty much a microdose imo.

Still.. can make things weird with someone who is doing them for the first time. Not trying to sound negative.. but first time for mushrooms.. should definitely be in a more controlled setting with the ability to do what you please and not feel "stuck".




As for the second part of vibes response i completely agree. Your goal of having your friend enjoy and share the experience is great, but the enviroment you are going to be is unstable and even a decent dose could cause a first timer trouble.

As for the first part of that quote and mainly the part i underlined... I agree that 2g to me(or vibe) would be a micro dose or at worst a easily manageable dose, but my first time was 3-3.5g and i honestly dont wanna know what i would've seemed like to other people, or what/how i would've reacted if i had done that in setting were i was around strangers/ in public.

In summary, i think your half a shroom each is a great idea. You are going to be in an environment where you should already be having fun, if it works out to less than .1g of shrooms taken than good job you wont have scared your friend away from psychedelics, but as i have laid out noone here can tell you how much those shrooms weigh so caution is advised if you want to go more.

I would start with half a shroom and bring another 1 with me if your friend felt like spliting it after an hour. I don't disagree with vibe on his assessment, but i realize some people are different so start slow.

I do agree that you should probably introduce your friend in a different setting, but do as you do just stay safe. Good luck and have fun:awethumb:

edit: silly spelling mistakes:smilingpuppy:


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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26398463 - 12/24/19 12:35 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Great post and I'm glad you too understand the point that I was trying to get across. Not trying to cloud anyone's sunshine day.. just trying to look out for people's best interest when it comes to "first timers". @BabylyonRuleDem made a good point - you do NOT want to scare them away from psychedelics. It's a shame when someone takes them for the first time.. gets stuck in a bad experience (usually because of a shitty setting).. then they go around saying how terrible mushrooms are.

They've lost hope at this point - expectations of a mushroom trip  have now been set to a negative standard (anxiety, freaking out, panicking.. etc). I would hate to ruin a good thing for someone by setting them up for a first experience in anything less than a "perfect" setting".

Although.. I do believe that taking a smaller end dose (like what you've posted).. would not be too much to make someone go bat shit crazy and lose their shit. But.. sometimes it's just the thoughts and slight audio hallucinogens tend to  freak some people out.

We're just trying to give you the best advice - honest and real!


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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26398477 - 12/24/19 01:08 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Vibe_Enthusiast said:
Great post and I'm glad you too understand the point that I was trying to get across. Not trying to cloud anyone's sunshine day.. just trying to look out for people's best interest when it comes to "first timers". @BabylyonRuleDem made a good point - you do NOT want to scare them away from psychedelics. It's a shame when someone takes them for the first time.. gets stuck in a bad experience (usually because of a shitty setting).. then they go around saying how terrible mushrooms are.

We're just trying to give you the best advice - honest and real!




Right back at you vibe! i wasnt trying to completely admonish your advice, but it it is easily possible for people to have bad reactions from less than we would consider a microdose in a great setting. You never understand exactly what anyone is going through internally(set=mindset), or what the mushrooms will choose to choose to show them at that time. This is ignoring diet, if you have an empty stomach 1g will effect harder and faster than 2g after you had thanksgiving dinner.

Noone here has been negative(yet:lol:) were all just trying to give the best advice based on the circumstances and info provided. The last thing i want for any "psychedelic virgin" is to be scared away. Many may say its just a high, a momentary feeling, etc. but to me it is a beautiful experience that i believe anyone and everyone who is able should have the opportunity to experience, and have the will to go deeper. Too much to put in words if i try to go on, but "get your feet wet before you know how to swim" is the best i can put it.

He never said where or gave any details on this party, but it seems to be equivalent to a "rave" in the US, which means strangers and new/unpredictable experiences. IME mushrooms are very introspective and i become more reserved and quite on decent doses, other than my verbal ejaculations:bathtub40lol:

So to OP realize don't over do it, if you show your friend a good time on a small dose their interest might be peaked. If you go to hard and they don't enjoy it then you may have ruined their view of psychedelics for a long time...maybe forever.

Again i think you had the right idea starting with half a shroom and working from there.

Whether you realize it or not their view of psychedelics is in your hands, they can always take more later. Show them a good time, be safe, be responsible, and have fun.


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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: Digit]
    #26398908 - 12/24/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

thank you all for your sincere thoughts on the matter :heart:

i agree with most of what has been said..the times i tripped harder using the lemon tek i couldn't even thought of socializing or beeing in a no controlled environment. and i definetly don't want to scare people of an experience so valuable and a substance that we can produce by ourselves!

definetly better be safe than sorry :crazy2:

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The easy solution is to have her munch one shroom, and wait an hour, or two, preferably. If she's digging it and she wants a little more give her a little more.





i think that the consensus is that we take half a shroom each, then wait 1 hour or so to see what happens, and if we dig it, eat one more half each.


what i'm wondering now if it isn't better to eat them outside in a park near by or something and go to the party once we feel the peak. a crazy walk in the street before partying  :imslow: or something.. or eat them so the peak hits while dancing.

haah feel like i'm asking a lot of questions.

i also think it'd be cool to share some knowledge to her beforehand..i' think we'll have a little talk. beforehand

anyways...grateful to y'all for the responses!!!


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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: embrollo]
    #26398954 - 12/24/19 10:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think you're going to get that "peak". I think with a dose you're going to be taking.. it may just be a different headspace.. music may sound a little better.. things may have a more crisp and colorful look. Although, this is completely objective and your experiences with smaller dosages may be completely different than mine. Lower doses make me feel uncomfortable. When I take mushrooms.. I will not usually take less than an 8th.. because I don't like being in that realm of "half sober half tripping".. just makes things weird and difficult for me.

Never hurts to eat them and see how they hit you though. The park sounds like a good idea.. because the "comeup" is usually the most anxiety ridden part of any trip. Once she/you get over that hump... I think all will be well. That's how it was with me when I first took mushrooms. I didn't really have any" anxiety".. because I didn't have any expectations. I never taken a psychedelic prior to my first mushrooms experience. But it did take me a little to get used to the new headspace & visuals - although.. this was on a much higher dose.

First time for me was about 3.5g or so.. give or take. It was intense.. but I went into it with an open mind and zero expectations.. on a sunny summer afternoon in my friends backyard.. poolside:lol: - set myself of for success on that one for sure.

Eat them.. go for a little walk and see how you guys feel.. chitchat a little bit about any effects you may be feeling.. how the vibe feels.. and take it from there. I'm more than sure you guys will be fine and have a great time. But... it never hurts to be safe than sorry.


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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26398992 - 12/24/19 11:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Acid is better for parties, shrooms can make u wanna lie down


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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26399057 - 12/24/19 12:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

As vibe said your not really gonna peak on that amount. Youll be in the range of a micro dose, which will make you feel different. Maybe a little looser, more energy, euphoria, focus, enhanced color/hearing, stamina, etc. Even if you eat all those you probably wont be :trippnballs: but as I said before we can't really tell exact weight.

Starting at the park would be a good idea. Maybe on the way to the park eat a half then wait at least 45 minutes and see how you feel. For me shrooms will show their presence within 45 minutes, less if I don't eat a meal that day. If you feel absolutely nothing then you might wanna take a whole one. By spacing it out like that it wont hit as hard as if it were taken all at once.

This will be up to the 2 of you at that moment see how you feel and judge how much more accordingly.
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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26406876 - 12/29/19 08:50 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

shiiiiiiiit i wrote a full descrpition on the experience and i erased it T_T


long story short, 1 half mush after dinner, 2 hours home felling the effect (suuuper soft, skin and muscle sensibility and an energetic feeling) the to the party, before entering 1 more half each, we danced like crazy. it was fun.

downside: this needs to be done in friendly parties. this place was full of people with no respect for personal space and it was a little anoying. people kept getting me out of our vibe by bumping on us and shit.


thanks a lot for the feedback, people, you made me feel more safe! :smile:


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Re: techno party in a club: no idea on dosing (PICS) [Re: embrollo]
    #26407109 - 12/30/19 12:59 AM (4 years, 30 days ago)

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shiiiiiiiit i wrote a full descrpition on the experience and i erased it T_T


long story short, 1 half mush after dinner, 2 hours home felling the effect (suuuper soft, skin and muscle sensibility and an energetic feeling) the to the party, before entering 1 more half each, we danced like crazy. it was fun.

downside: this needs to be done in friendly parties. this place was full of people with no respect for personal space and it was a little anoying. people kept getting me out of our vibe by bumping on us and shit.


thanks a lot for the feedback, people, you made me feel more safe! :smile:




Fair do’s,pal, thanks for getting back to us and letting kmow how you got on. I could have predicted your conclusion, I.e. next time try a friendly party!

You are so vulnerable on psychedelics; that’s why many people stress SET and SETTING. Many moons ago I took what I thought was LSD on a Christmas Eve, and went out to see a band (Skreech Rock - I fancied the lead singer!). They were basically a punk rock band and there were other support acts on. But as you can imagine, there were loads of punks in attendance, and their “dancing” involved pogoing around bumping into people very aggressively. Needless to say I hated the night and would never attempt it again.....

Even dance tents at festivals (on MDMA) are annoying the amount of people that bump into you.

But glad it worked out for you both and you had an enjoyable evening.
Mush love,
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