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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: viraldrome]
#26398690 - 12/24/19 06:22 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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viraldrome said: the worst that seems to have happened to Dahmer was his parents divorced and left him alone a lot.
But how do you know this? Were you with him throughout his childhood?
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Shiithead]
#26398698 - 12/24/19 06:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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A lot of that is run aways and/or kids being exploited. Many involve parental issues.
Serial killers usually confess and don't lawyer up. Lot's of people talk to police and it's probably odd the ways that goes down. My first time arrested I was all too afraid of what I did and to who. I knew who was going to be offended and it wasn't the official story. There was a lot of fear following me around and now it's all court dreams and prison dreams when dreams go bad. Some other fights and such.
You gotta wonder what demons a serial killer is fighting. You can't kill spirit, that's why wars can be so difficult to win. Their demons are probably like any others hidden away. Simply a more attached manifestation. Once someone acts on impulse it becomes a way of life. Although I do believe in cognitive and spiritual transformation. It's the only way to change and turn fear into glory.
I think it is possible to kill to create security but the scale required would be immense. Never lasts for long after a war or death sentence. It's freaky how uneffective the systems establisehed are. So there's a lot of ways out or in.
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Morel Guy]
#26398712 - 12/24/19 06:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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You gotta wonder what demons a serial killer is fighting.
Boredom.
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Asante]
#26398728 - 12/24/19 07:03 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: Boredom.
Is that supposed to be satire or sarcasm or something?
I don't get it...
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Tempalonomous]
#26398736 - 12/24/19 07:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please share.
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Tempalonomous]
#26398738 - 12/24/19 07:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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"go missing" is a terrible meter. Call the cops because you couldn't find your child while shopping cuz they were hiding under a clothing rack, that child is now one of those statistics. They don't remove them from the left after the find out nothing happened to them they were just lost. Also keep in mind just how many f****** people there are in this country. Years ago, there was an article making lots of waves because the government had sent out something like 20,000 tax refund checks to people that were dead. It was a big sensation on the media circuits. I did the math using cdc's database for deaths per year it worked it out to figure that if those checks were cut on the first of the month, by the 11th of that month, that number of people would have died. Meaning, but the government was no worse at distributing tax refund checks then my employer is at distributing paychecks as those take 10 to 14 days to process. Meaning, it's just the fact there are so many people dying all the time that it doesn't take very long for a large number to accumulate. 2000 kids a day going missing, is actually kind of insignificant. I of course don't say that as a parent of one of those children, but I have somebody looking at numbers
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26398762 - 12/24/19 07:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: I always get baffled that in a discussion about this a few people will state that these people are just evil. Like they were born evil, and nothing would stop them being so, and that's that.
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Shiithead said: So you believe experience precedes Biology?
Your bait looks very tasty, but intellectually I know it would not be good for me and my time would be better spent elsewhere.
Somehow, just the way you say that speaks to me of beating a dead horse.
If you look at other mental conditions, there are some that are brought out from traumatic experiences but there are others that follow a genetic paths indicating they are inherited. Your opinion seems to completely disregard the possibility that people are born sociopath. Considering that other mental conditions have been observed to follow genetics, i thought it was a good question...
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Magenta]
#26398775 - 12/24/19 07:50 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: I always get baffled that in a discussion about this a few people will state that these people are just evil. Like they were born evil, and nothing would stop them being so, and that's that.
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Shiithead said: So you believe experience precedes Biology?
Your bait looks very tasty, but intellectually I know it would not be good for me and my time would be better spent elsewhere.
Somehow, just the way you say that speaks to me of beating a dead horse.
If you look at other mental conditions, there are some that are brought out from traumatic experiences but there are others that follow a genetic paths indicating they are inherited. Your opinion seems to completely disregard the possibility that people are born sociopath. Considering that other mental conditions have been observed to follow genetics, i thought it was a good question... 
That's like trying to display a 1 million pixel image with incredible colors on a black and white monitor running Windows 3.5. It is an almost in fathomable e complex interaction of things creating that affect, and it cannot be dumb down to a this or that answer. Yes sociopathy and psychopathy are both conditions that exist. And yet every person with those conditions do not behave exactly the same.
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Well JSB has already narrowed it down by completely dismissing one set of circumstances. I'm curious to his reasoning.
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Magenta]
#26398783 - 12/24/19 07:55 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Magenta said: Your opinion seems to completely disregard the possibility that people are born sociopath.
I've not once seen compelling evidence that this is the case. Sure it's a theory, but as Randalf said; it's ridiculously complex.
Personally, no matter how hard I think about it, I find it stupidly unlikely that anyone is born this way, and becomes this way, through ZERO influence from caregivers/other humans, when young.
Perhaps it's like Schrodinger's cat: the condition both does and doesn't exist, depending on the brainwaves of others in the vicinity of the subject.
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An openness and obsession with suffering. A sociopath denies their suffering, which seems common in a lot of religious circles. The military trains to deny their bodies suffering as it is a martail arts technique of transcending all together.
From suffering comes transcendence or not. Some people are just more engrossed by gross things, it's not unusual. The mind doesn't want to be a victim yet is. We are all gonna die and usually with immense real suffering.
I think a sociopath is just more obsessed with an illusion of controlling that mystery. Some people thrive on stress. Everyone breaks eventually.
A cop and a serial killer just rebell differently, usually. Imagine how afraid a killer is of death to project such a manifestation ad their crimes. It's a mirror neuron reaction. People engage and are drawn to fear.
If you fear god you are drawn to that source. You fear food it is going to happen over and over again. In fact there is a youtube video that makes a lot of sense.
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Morel Guy]
#26398795 - 12/24/19 08:02 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26398809 - 12/24/19 08:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: Boredom.
Is that supposed to be satire or sarcasm or something?
I don't get it...
Empathize with being a psychopath.
Very few things make any emotional impression to you to speak of. You heard people are afraid of heights so you got on a high building, walked al the way around on the ledge, even jumped around a bit. Nothing.
The same motherfucking NOTHING that is there all your life. Neurotypical people go berserk at the slightest provocation like kicking their cat across the room but you, nothing.
Always that absolutely nothing.
What is the most extreme thing you can do?
Rollercoaster? Ha fucking ha.
Bar fight? Interesting because unexpected outcome but still that MEH.
You like stomping on frogs. Driving over cats. When you bought that Nazi bayonet, stabbing the petting zoo donkey with it was satisfactory.
Copa are fucking imbeciles. There is no way I couldn't get away with a kill if I used my superior brain. Or ten, or twenty, Or two hunderd and beat everybodies record.
That Vegas guy had the right idea, fuck getting old. Hail. Of. Bullets.
Hmmmm, How to do it RIGHT?
Voila, there you go.
"the devil makes work for idle hands"
If you look at spree killer footage, you often see them do it with bored, bland explressions on their face.
So even THAT was a dead end...
Ah well, might as well cut out the middle man..
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Morel Guy] 1
#26398814 - 12/24/19 08:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shiithead said: Google says 800k children go missing in the states each year and about 2000 everyday. This is practically an epidemic that is not being addressed.
Very very few of those are categorized as stranger abductions though. With younger children it's often a family member or someone known to the family.
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: psi]
#26398819 - 12/24/19 08:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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My mom found me and my sister in a elevator at a hotel. A maid took us out of our room that we were in alone. I often feel something sinister about that.
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Asante] 1
#26398821 - 12/24/19 08:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Asante said: Empathize with being a psychopath.
Very few things make any emotional impression to you to speak of. You heard people are afraid of heights so you got on a high building, walked al the way around on the ledge, even jumped around a bit. Nothing.
Good point, well made. Absolutely get what you were referring to now.
Thanks man!!
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Morel Guy]
#26398897 - 12/24/19 09:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would love to be in a cell with him, although in prison he seems to be a lot more dull/flat I assume because of his meds. He was murdered with a barbell bar from the prison weight room while he was laying in his bed unfortunately... I really wanted to send him a letter or something. Maybe I am a bit psycho too. I do not like ruining peoples lives but the thought of all the morbid things he did is so damn intriguing
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Tempalonomous]
#26398967 - 12/24/19 10:24 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I do not entertain the thoughts of what they did or do.
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Re: Honest Thoughts on Serial Killers [Re: Tempalonomous]
#26399037 - 12/24/19 11:53 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ted Bundy just killed a lot of people.
Females. Ted Bundy only killed females. Women and little girls. Jeffrey Dahmer killed men. Its harder to kill men. But that was only because Jeffrey Dahmer was homosexual however. I think in prison you get less respect if you only killed females as opposed to someone who killed men. When Jeffrey Dahmer was murdered in prison by a black inmate I believe I read it was racially motivated, the black inmate who killed him was mad that he killed black boys.
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