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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26395715 - 12/22/19 02:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I think I have experienced it as well. But I have managed never to be diagnosed with psychosis or anything with similar stigma by not running my mouth to any doctors. Paranoia that has protected me in a certain way through my life. I learned as a kid not to really trust social workers, psychologists and psychiatrists.

There was one occasion a few years ago where police made me go to the hospital (took the ambulance ride option, if refused it would be the cop car). At the hospital they made me take an Ativan and in an hour or two they let me go. I'm sure if I had been visibly flipping out and trying to get out it would have been a different story.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Northerner]
    #26395740 - 12/22/19 02:46 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: psi]
    #26395751 - 12/22/19 02:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Trust me, if it was real psychosis you wouldn't be able to stay on any path of than the crooked road of psychosis.

Sounds like side effects from drugs.  That's usually very mild and survivable than actually having real problems.

Psychosis is a very weak state, it's often one of vulnerable terror.  There is nothing to hold onto and there can be a lot of perceived and projected hostility.

In my experience it's very much when EVERYTHING goes wrong and everyone rubs you the wrong way.  But I had more peaceful times as well.

Yet I do see a lot of things among psychedelic users that a doctor would find to be psychotic like.  Strange beliefs, unusual behavior diet and dress, as well as abnormal life style in general.

Psychosis is like being deeply hurt.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26395864 - 12/22/19 03:49 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I have experienced it a couple of times naturally in my life. It is hard to explain for sure.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26395925 - 12/22/19 04:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It's a natural disintegration of the mind.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy] * 2
    #26395929 - 12/22/19 04:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Trust me, if it was real psychosis you wouldn't be able to stay on any path of than the crooked road of psychosis.

Sounds like side effects from drugs.  That's usually very mild and survivable than actually having real problems.




That occasion was not the worst I have been, but the closest I have been to getting fucked with some kind of a diagnosis because I was made to go to the hospital. "Actually having real problems," come on man. You know nothing of my problems.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: psi]
    #26395935 - 12/22/19 04:39 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Where you on illegal drugs?

Or a bad reaction to legal drugs?

I often find it's the sobriety that's the real problem, rarely the drug but sometimes.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26395939 - 12/22/19 04:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I was smoking weed around that time. But not that day I don't think.

Anyway my point in bringing that up was just about mostly staying under the radar of doctors other than that. Not that it was an especially paranoid moment in my life. I've seen someone get shot, I've been tied up in a robbery, I know a thing or two about being anxious and paranoid for month on end, fearing and hating neighbors, etc. And yes during those most paranoid times I was smoking weed too.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26395993 - 12/22/19 05:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I often find it's the sobriety that's the real problem, rarely the drug but sometimes.




Truth


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Northerner]
    #26396445 - 12/22/19 09:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Looking back, I've said and done alot of things that I regret, but I have learned from most of them. Drug and alcohol use...hmmm  naa I don't think I would change that but I may be deluled.🤷


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Quagmire75] * 1
    #26396572 - 12/23/19 12:10 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I would alter how I spent my early 20's. Not necessarily saying I would not choose to do any drugs. However I am just now achieving a level of professional and personal "success" where I feel satisfied with myself. Reflecting on things I realize I could have had this much sooner if I weren't partying so hard back then.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: HarperLewis]
    #26396577 - 12/23/19 12:19 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

:lol: being "professional" is such a joke. I'll be glad I never achieve that. Its my goal.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #26397164 - 12/23/19 10:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Probably not.

I feel like my life experiences would have probably been a lot more dull had it not been for the drugs I've tried in my life and the decisions I've made based on the use of those drugs.

Before I smoked weed and did drugs in HS I was a pretty different person. I was shy, conservative, closed off, and not very social at all. After I started smoking weed and doing psychs I began to go out and hang out with people more and we'd bond over smoking and I felt like I became a different person as a result from using drugs. Not like on some super deep spiritual level type of bullshit, but like I just started being more social and chill instead of the quite conservative kind of kid and I'll always thank drugs I guess for taking me out of that and enabling me to become more social.

However if I had never done drugs there is a good chance I also would have never met a bunch of people that I had met through things like festivals and shows (which I started going to as a result of taking drugs) and I feel like if I had never met those people life would have maybe been better.

I dated this junkie girl whom I met at a festival and she made my life miserable. She caused me to spiral out of control with ketamine and other drugs and thanks to her it took me a couple of years to get my life back on track.

But despite that I wouldn't take any of it back


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #26397363 - 12/23/19 12:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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:lol: being "professional" is such a joke. I'll be glad I never achieve that. Its my goal.





You're right monetary security, and a profession you enjoy are soooo lame.



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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: HarperLewis]
    #26397370 - 12/23/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The whole idea of material value is lame. Now a profession you enjoy? I can get behind that :thumbup:


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: HarperLewis]
    #26397374 - 12/23/19 12:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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:lol: being "professional" is such a joke. I'll be glad I never achieve that. Its my goal.





You're right monetary security, and a profession you enjoy are soooo lame.






Must be the motto for a whore house.

Either way money and a profession are temporary.  It's a hustle.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26397419 - 12/23/19 01:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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The whole idea of material value is lame. Now a profession you enjoy? I can get behind that :thumbup:




It's not necessarily about material value. Financial security and the ability to save a substantial amount of money allows for freedom that living paycheck to paycheck doesn't allow. Freedom to work a job you want because you aren't relying on that next check, freedom from the stress of how you're going to keep a roof over your head or your kids fed, freedom from the strains that money issues can put on your health and the health of your relationships.

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Must be the motto for a whore house.

Either way money and a profession are temporary.  It's a hustle.




Sex work is real work dude. :wink:

Money and profession are temporary, as is everything else. As such we have a limited time to live the life we want. If I am able to choose to go through this life with some money in my pocket allowing me to explore more of what I want vs scratching out a meager existence every day, I know which one I am going to choose.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: HarperLewis]
    #26397427 - 12/23/19 01:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

PLUS 1000 for that last post! Nailed it!


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: HarperLewis]
    #26397455 - 12/23/19 01:17 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

That doesn't sound like freedom. Sounds like you are just another cog in the machine.


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Re: Would you have chosen a different path? [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #26397467 - 12/23/19 01:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Everyone one is no matter how big or small. In trying to be out of "the machine" one is just in another one.:shrug:


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