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OfflinePrimalSoup
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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26405392 - 12/28/19 09:14 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Psilotyl said: Top hats have some serious mushroom energy. Kinda like the circus or some shit. I can dig it. Ya feel me? :sunny:




Well not really.  I'm not sure what Blabble40 is getting at is all and I've done plenty of research in various texts looking for descriptions of what we're talking about here.  You can find it in the Gnostic Gospels in a few places where they're describing the "numinous" entity that fills you. And you can find it in the more esoteric Buddhist texts. But direct experience just takes the cake, and the fork, and the plate, over anything you'll ever read or listen to IME.

IME hyperspace is a place just like the lower dimensional landscape we inhabit by default.  Transcending that landscape - however you choose to do it (plant or mushroom allies, meditation) - takes you directly to the presence of a whole lot of interesting stuff, more stuff than can be easily explored.

This is why I'm totally suspicious of any "get the message hang up the phone" sort of attitude.  There's not a message you're being sent, there's an opening in hyperspace that only you can fill, and the intelligences there usually just want you to get on board and contribute. :shrug:

Enough ranting for one day. :laugh2:


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #26405402 - 12/28/19 09:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
A reader can only imagine. A person with experience..well..you can see the truth in their eye..




There is sometimes an energy that certain people carry. You see them at train stations, airports, and when I used to tour as a musician basically wherever....there’s a vibe you at least feel like you can sense. The fellow experienced. I’m sure sometimes its projected that and it’s incorrect, but not always. Could be backwash in time and the person will later become experienced. Who knows.

Like the man said enough ranting for one day. I’m going to put my top hat on and go stroll about town...um I mean birth a couple tubs :peace:


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26405407 - 12/28/19 09:31 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, the whole "once you get the message hang up the phone" doesn't work because it's not an answering machine.

Its a continued space. You have to be there to know of it.

This is why I have very low tolerance to psychedelics at parties...people considering MDMA a psychedelic..etc. I am zeroed in on the specifics. Mushrooms and DMT(oral or smoked) I have battled with how I treat LSD but I had one specific LSD trip where I can't in good conscience argue against it.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26405590 - 12/29/19 01:52 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I’ve both experienced this, Psilotyl, and read other’s posts on here describing similar.

I always trip with my two labradors, and occasionally they can act a bit weird, almost scared. It’s been suggested that just as some (trained) dogs can sense illness in people, or people about to have a fit, or heart attack, that kind of thing; then similarly, when you are tripping, some dogs can sense the changes in your brain chemistry / energy.

Sounds plausible to me, but in all honesty, yes it can be a bit weird. Dogs are awesome to cuddle when tripping, but if they’re looking a bit timid around me, I’ll leave them alone and retire to my safe place.

Mush love,’DJ Ed.

p.s. you recent trip was >5g dried: I reckon there was lots of changing energy in you for your dog to recognise........


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26405602 - 12/29/19 02:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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DJ Ed said:
I’ve both experienced this, Psilotyl, and read other’s posts on here describing similar.

I always trip with my two labradors, and occasionally they can act a bit weird, almost scared. It’s been suggested that just as some (trained) dogs can sense illness in people, or people about to have a fit, or heart attack, that kind of thing; then similarly, when you are tripping, some dogs can sense the changes in your brain chemistry / energy.

Sounds plausible to me, but in all honesty, yes it can be a bit weird. Dogs are awesome to cuddle when tripping, but if they’re looking a bit timid around me, I’ll leave them alone and retire to my safe place.

Mush love,’DJ Ed.

p.s. you recent trip was >5g dried: I reckon there was lots of changing energy in you for your dog to recognise........




Yes, the energy was powerful. That’s interesting DJ & I’m relieved to know I’m not the only one. I’ve been thinking about it ever since. She was tripping along with me, not just sensing stuff though...

The trip was highly spiritual and very personal. More auditory hallucinations that ever before as well. Other than that I will just say that I feel I have been called to go further, and will be beginning to experiment with attempting to reach higher levels in the coming weeks. My next trip will be 6-7g. Same batch of mushrooms.

I am aware these are serious levels, and plan to have a trip sitter, as well as anti-anxiety and anti-psychotics on hand just in case I run into something I can’t reckon with. Knowing there is a “failsafe” in having a trusted friend there should be a good confidence booster, and the medications are simply an extra precaution. I have lots more to say but will refrain for now.


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: Psilotyl] * 1
    #26405613 - 12/29/19 02:27 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Psilotyl said:

Yes, the energy was powerful. That’s interesting DJ & I’m relieved to know I’m not the only one. I’ve been thinking about it ever since. She was tripping along with me, not just sensing stuff though...

The trip was highly spiritual and very personal. More auditory hallucinations that ever before as well. Other than that I will just say that I feel I have been called to go further, and will be beginning to experiment with attempting to reach higher levels in the coming weeks. My next trip will be 6-7g. Same batch of mushrooms.

I am aware these are serious levels, and plan to have a trip sitter, as well as anti-anxiety and anti-psychotics on hand just in case I run into something I can’t reckon with. Knowing there is a “failsafe” in having a trusted friend there should be a good confidence booster, and the medications are simply an extra precaution. I have lots more to say but will refrain for now.




I’d love to read more, Psilotyl, don’t be shy ;-)

There have been a couple of standout occasions while tripping with my dogs. About 6 months ago I had a really intense come up. My wife was present in the same room, so I wasn’t completely losing it. But both my dogs must have sensed my distress and both came and sat beside me, without being called. Skye leaned up against me, and Max laid down next to me and put his paws across my thigh. We sat there in front of the fire for quite a while. The dogs presence was both comforting, and beautiful: dogs can be so loving.....

There was another occasion a few weeks back where I was having a really beautiful trip. I was filled with energy and was standing “dancing” for a couple of hours. Max laid at thenfront door waiting for my wife to come home all night whereas Skye just looked terrified. She was skulking around the living room almost avoiding me, nd when I would speak to her she seemed really scared. She was like that all night until my wife nd daughter returned........

I tripped this last Friday night. My daughter was out on a sleepover and my wife kept herself out of the way watching tv upstairs. Both dogs stayed upstairs with her all night. Don’t know what conclusions to draw from that: either the dogs love my wife more or her energy is nicer when dad is tripping.......

Mush Love
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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26409684 - 12/31/19 05:36 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

That’s really interesting. For some reason I guess your wife’s feminine energy is comforting to them when Dad’s tripping. It’s crazy how they pick up on this stuff. I feel like even when I microdose my dog can tell now lol.


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26409692 - 12/31/19 05:42 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

On the whole microdosing thing...I don’t think it stands in contradiction to my advocacy of higher dosing since it’s not really tripping. I think it’s an advantageous thing to do and adds a certain something to your day.

But basically if I’m not taking .5g I’m taking 5g. I think the doses in between, like say 2-3.5g can be good for beginners. But after a certain point of experience, I think it’s better to really go for it with a stronger dose, like I’ve already said. Something sort of changed for me after maybe ten trips at 3g where it just wasn’t easygoing. I could feel my mind wrestle with the experience in some way.


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26409709 - 12/31/19 06:00 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

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Psilotyl said:
That’s really interesting. For some reason I guess your wife’s feminine energy is comforting to them when Dad’s tripping. It’s crazy how they pick up on this stuff. I feel like even when I microdose my dog can tell now lol.




Don’t get me wrong on this buddy, since I have recently discovered that I prefer tripping completely alone. But I very much find my wife’s feminine presence very comforting to me when daddy’s tripping and I’m experiencing the psychedelic mushroom realms.

Mush love,,fella, it’s New Year here now in the uk, better get off to bed!!!!!!!

DJ Ed


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26409720 - 12/31/19 06:13 PM (4 years, 29 days ago)

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Psilotyl said:
That’s really interesting. For some reason I guess your wife’s feminine energy is comforting to them when Dad’s tripping. It’s crazy how they pick up on this stuff. I feel like even when I microdose my dog can tell now lol.




Don’t get me wrong on this buddy, since I have recently discovered that I prefer tripping completely alone. But I very much find my wife’s feminine presence very comforting to me when daddy’s tripping and I’m experiencing the psychedelic mushroom realms.

Mush love,,fella, it’s New Year here now in the uk, better get off to bed!!!!!!!

DJ Ed




Yeah tripping alone is cool for sure. Happy 2020! I’m back in the States :smile: You are now in the future! Lol. Take care.


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: Psilotyl]
    #26410616 - 01/01/20 08:54 AM (4 years, 28 days ago)

Coming back to this thread after Christmas e.t.c

Happy New Year everyone!

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However, I am nonetheless of the opinion that one is at least getting to view and experience things through a window that is quantifiably alien; that one steps at least one proverbial foot into something genuinely “other.” & I’m not the type to really think of things in this way either, if you know what I mean.




I often feel as though I am looking into a realm which is both sentient and strange and very alien.

This is something I wrote in a trip journal:

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Concept: A psychedelic drug as a window into another universe. A window that becomes thinner and more clear as you reach your scientific goal of seeing through it. And you watch. For days. For weeks. For years. And as the window thins and then disappears completely, you see better and better. And even without the window you are safe, because they cannot see you. Until you move. Which you have to. To get out. And the rest is obvious. Sometimes you don't get out.





OK that paragraph starts to turn into some kind of sci-fi horror plot, but it does capture the feeling that you are looking at something within your CEV which is communicating with you through your own thoughts, an incursion from somewhere beyond...

:cthulhu:


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: Aldebaran]
    #26411229 - 01/01/20 04:44 PM (4 years, 28 days ago)

What if instead of beyond.. we call it inner. Due to our brain’s accessibility to new pathways not previously used. Thoughts?


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: Schroomfairy]
    #26411552 - 01/01/20 09:05 PM (4 years, 28 days ago)

I can't stand low doses.

Either shit or get off the pot.  If you want a mild buzz, drink a beer.  I haven't taken a dose under 8 grams in nearly a year


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Re: the sheer bliss of the heroic dose [Re: individualist]
    #26411678 - 01/01/20 11:21 PM (4 years, 27 days ago)

I love higher doses with a passion.  I find for me that teeters between 2-3.5g of my penis envy or albino penis envy.  Those doses often take me to places beyond where 10g of regular cubes have taken me.  Im sure it can even heavier, but at that point it's mainly manifests itself in my body high.

I also like to add some things to my mushroom trips respectfully from time to time, like ketamine and dmt, and recommend that for other responsible voyagers


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